toy story 4 confirmed

[Leo656]

Well, the problem is that after constantly being teased with it and averting it, the fans were ready, in a sense, to finally see the war between humans and machines, so they almost had to let it happen if indeed continuing the series was what they HAD to do.

I actually like all the Terminator movies so far - the new one looks kind of bad, though - but I can completely understand anyone who's of the opinion they should have quit with two. I'll never argue with that, regardless of how I feel about T3 and Salvation as their own movies. They completely could have just stopped after 2 and nothing would be worse for wear.

[Turo602]

I don't get why people are so skeptical about this or just downright hate that they're making another one. I get that 3 was a great end but it doesn't have to be. There are plenty of directions that the story could go that can justify another film. Also, it's Toy Story. Getting another one is like getting a new Zelda or Mario game.

[chrisdude]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Well, the problem is that after constantly being teased with it and averting it, the fans were ready, in a sense, to finally see the war between humans and machines, so they almost had to let it happen if indeed continuing the series was what they HAD to do.

I actually like all the Terminator movies so far - the new one looks kind of bad, though - but I can completely understand anyone who's of the opinion they should have quit with two. I'll never argue with that, regardless of how I feel about T3 and Salvation as their own movies. They completely could have just stopped after 2 and nothing would be worse for wear.

The new one looks to go back to the start and make a lot of changes, Star Trek style. But I think bringing Sarah Connor and Arnold back to semi-present day, and, presumably, bringing the story back to preventing the war, is probably a good thing. I bet it'll feel a lot more like Terminator than Salvation.

[Sumac]

It tried. I think letting Judgement Day happen was a mistake. It completely changed the dynamic, for the sequel, and closed the loop on the cyclical timeline. Wrote the franchise into a corner.

I think the loop was broken in T2.

And you're not wrong about the other thing; statistically, most movies, TV shows, etc. really shouldn't have been done (although it's easier to see that in hindsight, obviously), or at least the final product wasn't worth the effort.

While its true, I think, bad things should exist, so people who produce good things can have examples of "how you don't do it". Besides, bad stuff can be entertaining in its own right.

I fully cop to being somewhat cynical, but I also don't feel that there's anything wrong, at all, with saying "It's up to them to impress me." Contrary to that, you seem more like the type who expects to like things, and then does, which I actually think is far more flawed of an approach. But hey, different strokes and all that.

I like to give everything a chance, find positives everywhere I can and go easy on bad stuff. There is too much hatred and negativity this days. If I did otherwise, thanks to my analytical nature I would have turned into bitter and jaded, perpetually disatissfied douchebag, who hates absolutely everything, because it fails to live up to his personal imaginary expectation. And, in my opinion, its fate worse than death.
If I don't like something, I state my opinion and go elsewhere to find something that is good.

[ObiWanFan4life]

Originally Posted by Turo602

I don't get why people are so skeptical about this or just downright hate that they're making another one. I get that 3 was a great end but it doesn't have to be. There are plenty of directions that the story could go that can justify another film. Also, it's Toy Story. Getting another one is like getting a new Zelda or Mario game.

True, but what direction could they go in? What would they do? How could they possibly make another one with out it feeling like a cash grab?

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by Sumac

While its true, I think, bad things should exist, so people who produce good things can have examples of "how you don't do it". Besides, bad stuff can be entertaining in its own right.

Can't argue with that very valid point. It would be nice if the "Good-To-Crap" ratio wasn't so imbalanced, though.

Originally Posted by chrisdude

The new one looks to go back to the start and make a lot of changes, Star Trek style. But I think bringing Sarah Connor and Arnold back to semi-present day, and, presumably, bringing the story back to preventing the war, is probably a good thing. I bet it'll feel a lot more like Terminator than Salvation.

They already told that story, though, and that's my problem with THAT franchise. They can only now either Continue the story (as in, show the War) or Reboot the story (or, y'know, stop making Terminator movies, but they won't). They tried continuing it, and people didn't like it (apparently because the Future War included a lot less lasers than we were promised in the opening of T2), so now, they have to go Back To The Beginning and start over, and the premise of Sarah being raised by Arnold's Terminator and all that just sounds so F'n cheesy. It sounds like Bad Terminator Fan Fiction, if I'm being honest. And again, I didn't think Salvation was all that bad. Even with the "New" series, eventually, they'll run out of ways to Prevent the war and they'll have to Show you, anyway, because a war between humans and machines is Too Big a premise to NOT show, or to only tease. They're caught in this cycle, now, where it's going to be very transparent every ten-to-fifteen years: three or so movies where they Prevent the war, one where they finally Have the war, and then another Reboot where they go back in time to stop the war AGAIN. It's literally gone from an intriguing sci-fi story, to, "Let's play with our CGI and such" and just showing off.

I like 3 and Salvation just fine, but honestly, it's pretty clear at this point that the BEST thing they could've done, was just stop after 2. I also really hate Arnold, now, with his conceited "They can't do Terminator without me" spiel he's been spewing in interviews the last few years. Go f*** yourself, buddy, okay? I'm annoyed that they caved in to him and in turn validated that kind of nonsense.

[SparkFlash]

Money and interest is the simply motivator. We can debate all day on why it should end after 3 and for all we know the brains behind it agree. But there is obviously a huge Toy Story following and therefore a lot more green to grab.

I hope the story somehow gets back to Andy who in the future now has his own child.

[DarkFell]

Kinda want to see it although I'm feeling the same 'what else is there' vibe over here.

[Sumac]

Can't argue with that very valid point. It would be nice if the "Good-To-Crap" ratio wasn't so imbalanced, though.

Good things are harder to come by, so it's only natural that they are less of them outhere. On the other hand it is exactly what makes them so precious.

T3 was fine. Good action movie leagues behind T1 and T2, but still entertaining in its own right. Besides, as a big fan of Arnie I liked the way he played Terminator in this movie.

I liked Salvation much less. I don't like Bale and the way story goes in the last part of the movie felt really awkward (which by no means a surprise, since they rewrote ending and added new scenes with Bale on his demand).

Generally it felt like potentially good movie ruined by a patchwork script. Also, it really was removed from Future War depicted in T1 and T2, so it's no wonder, that some people have disliked it because of that.

I am not big fan of idea that SkyNet wanted perfect humanity instead of exterminating it, but if they went with original plan, Salvation could have been a but more coherent.

[Donatello19]

Toy Story is one of my favorite movie series' of all time, but I do think that TS3 was the perfect ending for it. I'm a bit mixed on this...I'm excited to see more of course, but I don't think they really needed to make another one. I mean, TS3 was the only animated movie to gross over 1 billion dollars (besides Frozen) so it's not surprising that they would want to make another, but all I can think of when I see the title "Toy Story 4" is Andy making Mr. Potato Head say "Oooh, money money money *smooch smooch*" from the first movie

I'm sure it will be a great movie...or at least, I hope it will be. Pixar has been pretty disappointing for me lately. Cars 2 was terrible, Brave was just OK, and Monsters University didn't leave much of an impact on me. Their next movie, Inside Out, looks like it could be interesting, though. To me Pixar is just getting too sequel/prequel/spin off happy...first MU, then Finding Dory, then The Incredibles 2 (which, don't get me wrong, I can't wait for) then Cars 3, and now Toy Story 4.

It's funny, a few years ago Pixar was on top while Disney's movies weren't that great, but now it feels like it's the other way around.

[chrisdude]

I always felt like they've been pretty reserved with the sequels, not even making the ones we begged for. I didn't know they were doing Incredibles 2, though. Probably the Pixar movie people most wanted a sequel to.

I understand. How scary the number "4" is, because it's almost always a catastrophe. But these guys have really done no wrong, even with sequels. Like, ever. Least of all with Toy Story. I have enough faith in them to think, "A fourth movie? They must've come up with a killer idea."

If we learn what the premise is, and it doesn't blow our minds, I'll be as doubtful as anyone here. But they haven't milked a franchise yet, so, they get the benefit of the doubt from me.

[neatoman]

I'm sure it will be good, but it does undermine the third one a bit to make a fourth...

[TheSkeletonMan939]

I mean... it's nice they're making a fourth, but I'd have a lot more respect for Pixar if they had flat out stopped making Toy Story films/shorts after Toy Story 3. You can tell the toys are happy in their new home from the end credits of the third, so there's no doubt about that; I think Pixar should have left the future of the gang to the imaginations of the viewers instead of pumping out 10-minute shorts every few months, and now this.

I think one of the hardest things for franchises to do is quit while they're ahead, and I'm worried that Pixar will forget this while making their sequels.

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939

I mean... it's nice they're making a fourth, but I'd have a lot more respect for Pixar if they had flat out stopped making Toy Story films/shorts after Toy Story 3. You can tell the toys are happy in their new home from the end credits of the third, so there's no doubt about that; I think Pixar should have left the future of the gang to the imaginations of the viewers instead of pumping out 10-minute shorts every few months, and now this.

I think one of the hardest things for franchises to do is quit while they're ahead, and I'm worried that Pixar will forget this while making their sequels.

Yeah, exactly.

[BubblyShell22]

I'm excited for this and can't wait to see what they do with it. I agree that the third one was the best way to end the saga, but it would be cool if they did a prequel with Andy's dad and Woody as that sounds like it'll be interesting. Whatever they come up with, I'll go see it and judge it then. Until them, I'm just going to wait and see what they come up with.

And I'm also excited for Finding Dory. It looks cute.

[TheBlueTurtle1]

I think TS4 will be great. I hear people saying TS3 was a good ending, but to me it opened a chance to tell new stories. I love all the shorts thus far and see no reason why TS4 will be any lesser a movie than the other 3.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Originally Posted by joefsas

I agree that TS3 was a good way to end but at the same time i can't help but be a little excited

This is how I feel as well. I'm normally one of those people who's been told that if this is the last movie or episode of an ongoing series then let it happen and make a satisfying ending (although I thought Shrek: Forever After could have ended better but I still enjoyed the movie). Not because I don't think the movie will be good but I just loved the way the Toy Story trilogy ended. However, I loved all of the Toy Story movies that they have yet to disappoint. I hope they live up to the legacy and make this fourth one enjoyable even though I'm sure they will.

I still remember being 8 years old watching the original in theatres. Ahhh, those were the days.