Batman: The Dark Knight 3 in the works - Page 3

*Candy Kappa* · 11-21-2015, 03:00 AM

http://www.newsarama.com/26890-frank...n-fan-q-a.html

So, it looks like 3 is Azzarello's story, where Miller contributed. Hence why there's a 4th installment in the works that's all Miller...

~~Leo656~~ · 11-21-2015, 03:19 AM

I wanna see the two of them get into an argument over whose work insists upon its own greatness more. That would be epic.

They're both pretty sh*tty. The only Azzarello stuff I ever liked was his "For Tomorrow" run on Superman. And as far as that goes, for one thing, I have a huge Superman bias, and for another, I'm the only person who likes that story. I've heard his crime and noir stuff like 100 Bullets is okay but I feel like some people just shouldn't write super-heroes. His Batman stuff like "Broken City" was really, really dry, almost boring; to be fair, the art was also bad, and that took me out of the whole thing greatly. And that Lex Luthor mini-series was terrible. It's like he only had one good story to tell and since then he only gets work because people hire him based off that One Good Story he had that one time.

And Miller's another one. I've literally only read one good story of his, "Batman: Year One", and then I've hated everything else. I mean I never read his Daredevil, which I hear is brilliant, but how is that possible? It can't be that good, can it? It's the same exact guy (unless you believe the "replaced by a right-wing cyborg clone sometime in the mid-80s" conspiracy theory that's floating around), so how could it possibly be so much greater than the bulk of his work, which is lousy? I could see, maybe, that it's better because Daredevil came along before he fell in love with himself and his crackpot ideas and went nuts, but exactly how much better, really? I suppose I'll get around to reading it one day, but I'm in no hurry. I can accept on faith that it's better than the rest of his work - it would have to be - but I'll be shocked if it's actually a huge step up comparatively. I just plain don't like how he writes and never really have.

I do kinda like Sin City, though. Kinda. Everybody Gets One, and all that. It's kind of a thing where, I generally don't like things that are overly-stylized on purpose, but occasionally I do, and that was one of those times.

*TurtleTitan97* · 11-21-2015, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

I mean I never read his Daredevil, which I hear is brilliant, but how is that possible? It can't be that good, can it? It's the same exact guy (unless you believe the "replaced by a right-wing cyborg clone sometime in the mid-80s" conspiracy theory that's floating around), so how could it possibly be so much greater than the bulk of his work, which is lousy? I could see, maybe, that it's better because Daredevil came along before he fell in love with himself and his crackpot ideas and went nuts, but exactly how much better, really? I suppose I'll get around to reading it one day, but I'm in no hurry. I can accept on faith that it's better than the rest of his work - it would have to be - but I'll be shocked if it's actually a huge step up comparatively. I just plain don't like how he writes and never really have.

As someone who has read his work on Daredevil, let me assure you that those are some of the best comics you could possible read.

~~Leo656~~ · 11-21-2015, 11:12 PM

Okay. How? Please explain to me how such a thing is possible. Dead serious.

I assume it's basically the "The sun even shines on a dog's ass once in a while" principle in effect?

Also: More people need to watch "White Men Can't Jump", there's a ton of great philosophy in that movie.

*TurtleTitan97* · 11-21-2015, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

Okay. How? Please explain to me how such a thing is possible. Dead serious.

I assume it's basically the "The sun even shines on a dog's ass once in a while" principle in effect?

Also: More people need to watch "White Men Can't Jump", there's a ton of great philosophy in that movie.

I could try, but I think this site would do a better job at explaining how great Miller's run on the series really was in its entirety: http://blog.timesunion.com/comicbook...es-later/3478/

Needless to say, if you liked Batman: Year One (Or even the Netflix Daredevil series if you've seen it) , you'll also like Miller's work on Daredevil as well. I would recommend the following storylines:

Daredevil: The Man Without Fear
The Elektra Saga
Daredevil: Born Again (Regarded as the best Daredevil storyline)

~~AquaParade~~ · 11-22-2015, 09:13 AM

Yeah, Miller's Daredevil is a wonderful comic. Give it a chance.

*TurtleTitan97* · 11-25-2015, 01:46 PM

So the first issue came out today. Anyone else check it out?

Spoiler:

*ZariusTwo* · 11-26-2015, 12:21 PM

Spoiler:

*LeotheLateBloomer* · 11-27-2015, 11:19 AM

I'm curious, I've never read The Dark Knight Strikes Again. Exactly how bad is it? Spoil as much as you please because I'll probably never read it.

*oldmanwinters* · 11-30-2015, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by LeotheLateBloomer

I'm curious, I've never read The Dark Knight Strikes Again. Exactly how bad is it? Spoil as much as you please because I'll probably never read it.

http://channelawesome.com/at4w-the-d...-again-part-1/

http://channelawesome.com/at4w-the-d...-again-part-2/

http://channelawesome.com/at4w-the-d...-again-part-3/

~~Leo656~~ · 11-30-2015, 11:38 PM

Only heard about half of Part 1 so far but it's pretty spot-on.

What an awful book.

EDIT: Part 2 was great. This guy's actually under-selling how awful it is. I love the part where Wonder Woman swoons over the time Superman apparently threw her to the ground and took her by force like she was a tawdry cheap hooker. LIKE A MAN (of steel), BABAY!

Something's wrong with part 3, darn it. The page loads but there's no video.

Found it here, in much better quality anyways: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujsY6QQJvUA

Holy sh*t, that ending.

It's been years since I actually looked at this piece of sh*t. WOW. Just doesn't get any worse than that.

Shred Head · 12-01-2015, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

Only heard about half of Part 1 so far but it's pretty spot-on.

What an awful book.

EDIT: Part 2 was great. This guy's actually under-selling how awful it is. I love the part where Wonder Woman swoons over the time Superman apparently threw her to the ground and took her by force like she was a tawdry cheap hooker. LIKE A MAN (of steel), BABAY!

Something's wrong with part 3, darn it. The page loads but there's no video.

Found it here, in much better quality anyways: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujsY6QQJvUA

Holy sh*t, that ending.

It's been years since I actually looked at this piece of sh*t. WOW. Just doesn't get any worse than that.

You think that's bad look at him go off on Holy Terror that book made him go batshit insane. How the **** Frank ever got any more work after that book I will never know. I mean for all attempts and purpose that book should have been career suicide yet its 2015 and his name is still on covers of major publications. The comic business is weird and completely unfair.

http://atopthefourthwall.com/holy-terror/

~~Leo656~~ · 12-01-2015, 11:17 PM

I didn't get to that one yet, but I got sucked into watching a ton of his YouTube videos about sh*t like Cry For Justice (awful) and Rise of Arsenal (awful-er).

Guy reminds me too much of like, "Angry Video Game Nerd, But With Comics" but it's not like the sh*t he says isn't true.

*ZariusTwo* · 12-11-2015, 12:03 PM

Well, DKIII managed to earn DC it's only position in the comics top ten for November.,..and right at the number one spot

~~Leo656~~ · 12-11-2015, 09:34 PM

Unreal. People really are f*cking stupid.

Same sh*t as Transformers movies. People know they're paying for trash, but they're SO HAPPY to pay out the ass for the pleasure for something they KNOW in advance is going to be awful.

People are f*cking stupid.

*ZariusTwo* · 12-12-2015, 04:05 AM

Yeah, there's so many better DC books in the market, but there's little interest in the casual dopes to try them out, so they stick with the old hands, and in some ways they're probably buying this thinking that they're also buying ultimately into what will form the template for future movies down the pipeline.

~~Leo656~~ · 12-12-2015, 02:44 PM

I refuse to believe that thing you said about DC publishing any good books, but I'll take your word for it all the same.

*ZariusTwo* · 12-12-2015, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

I refuse to believe that thing you said about DC publishing any good books, but I'll take your word for it all the same.

Have you read Lois and Clark? Prez? Synder's Batman?

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 12-12-2015, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Have you read Lois and Clark? Prez? Synder's Batman?

Snyder's Batman is worth reading; best thing to come out of the New 52. I know, I know... not saying much.

~~Leo656~~ · 12-12-2015, 03:03 PM

Alright alright shaddap, you know I haven't cuz I'm broke.

And frankly everything I've heard and seen of New 52 Batman is just as spotty and inconsistent as everything else, so yeah, I think my "book" on that character closed at the same time as Superman's. Right from Joker cutting his face off, and Damien getting a huge push, I'm like "Yeah, this already sucks really bad" and haven't been back. I read *about* the stories being published in the comics and, I gotta say... those ideas don't translate well as prose descriptions. Maybe something's lost in the translation but everything "sounds" stupid as hell whenever I read a synopsis or review.

1986 - 2011. That's the DCU. Anything else, I completely Do Not Care.

11-21-2015, 03:00 AM	#41
Candy Kappa The Agenda of Existing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vikingland Posts: 14,596	http://www.newsarama.com/26890-frank...n-fan-q-a.html So, it looks like 3 is Azzarello's story, where Miller contributed. Hence why there's a 4th installment in the works that's all Miller... __________________ devianArt Instagram Youtube Tumblr Art Blog Patreon

11-21-2015, 03:19 AM	#42
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	I wanna see the two of them get into an argument over whose work insists upon its own greatness more. That would be epic. They're both pretty shtty. The only Azzarello stuff I ever liked was his "For Tomorrow" run on Superman. And as far as that goes, for one thing, I have a huge Superman bias, and for another, I'm the only person who likes that story. I've heard his crime and noir stuff like 100 Bullets is okay but I feel like some people just shouldn't write super-heroes. His Batman stuff like "Broken City" was really, really dry, almost boring; to be fair, the art was also bad, and that took me out of the whole thing greatly. And that Lex Luthor mini-series was terrible. It's like he only had one good story to tell and since then he only gets work because people hire him based off that One Good Story he had that one time. And Miller's another one. I've literally only read one good story of his, "Batman: Year One", and then I've hated everything else. I mean I never read his Daredevil, which I hear* is brilliant, but how is that possible? It can't be that good, can it? It's the same exact guy (unless you believe the "replaced by a right-wing cyborg clone sometime in the mid-80s" conspiracy theory that's floating around), so how could it possibly be so much greater than the bulk of his work, which is lousy? I could see, maybe, that it's better because Daredevil came along before he fell in love with himself and his crackpot ideas and went nuts, but exactly how much better, really? I suppose I'll get around to reading it one day, but I'm in no hurry. I can accept on faith that it's better than the rest of his work - it would have to be - but I'll be shocked if it's actually a huge step up comparatively. I just plain don't like how he writes and never really have. I do kinda like Sin City, though. Kinda. Everybody Gets One, and all that. It's kind of a thing where, I generally don't like things that are overly-stylized on purpose, but occasionally I do, and that was one of those times. Last edited by Leo656; 11-21-2015 at 03:25 AM.

11-25-2015, 01:46 PM	#47
TurtleTitan97 Space Cowboy Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Speed Force Posts: 7,043	So the first issue came out today. Anyone else check it out? Spoiler: Surprisingly, the comic did not make me cringe as I thought it would. Real curious to know if Bruce Wayne really is dead or not and see more of Carrie Kelly as the new Batman for now. __________________

11-26-2015, 12:21 PM	#48
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,491	Spoiler: Of course he's not dead. You seriously think Miller is going to let anyone but him kill Bruce off now when he's already said he's doing a fourth one? Hell this is'nt a new trick as Bruce "died" in the original also and it was a trick __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

11-30-2015, 11:38 PM	#51
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Only heard about half of Part 1 so far but it's pretty spot-on. What an awful book. EDIT: Part 2 was great. This guy's actually under-selling how awful it is. I love the part where Wonder Woman swoons over the time Superman apparently threw her to the ground and took her by force like she was a tawdry cheap hooker. LIKE A MAN (of steel), BABAY! Something's wrong with part 3, darn it. The page loads but there's no video. Found it here, in much better quality anyways: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujsY6QQJvUA Holy sht, that ending. It's been years since I actually looked at this piece of sht. WOW. Just doesn't get any worse than that. Last edited by Leo656; 12-01-2015 at 03:30 AM.

11-21-2015, 11:12 PM	#44
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Okay. How? Please explain to me how such a thing is possible. Dead serious. I assume it's basically the "The sun even shines on a dog's ass once in a while" principle in effect? Also: More people need to watch "White Men Can't Jump", there's a ton of great philosophy in that movie.

11-22-2015, 09:13 AM	#46
~~AquaParade~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8,450	Yeah, Miller's Daredevil is a wonderful comic. Give it a chance.

11-27-2015, 11:19 AM	#49
LeotheLateBloomer Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 3,117	I'm curious, I've never read The Dark Knight Strikes Again. Exactly how bad is it? Spoil as much as you please because I'll probably never read it.

12-01-2015, 11:17 PM	#53
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	I didn't get to that one yet, but I got sucked into watching a ton of his YouTube videos about sht like Cry For Justice (awful) and Rise of Arsenal (awful-er). Guy reminds me too much of like, "Angry Video Game Nerd, But With Comics" but it's not like the sht he says isn't true.

12-11-2015, 12:03 PM	#54
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,491	Well, DKIII managed to earn DC it's only position in the comics top ten for November.,..and right at the number one spot __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

12-11-2015, 09:34 PM	#55
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Unreal. People really are fcking stupid. Same sht as Transformers movies. People know they're paying for trash, but they're SO HAPPY to pay out the ass for the pleasure for something they KNOW in advance is going to be awful. People are f*cking stupid.

12-12-2015, 04:05 AM	#56
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,491	Yeah, there's so many better DC books in the market, but there's little interest in the casual dopes to try them out, so they stick with the old hands, and in some ways they're probably buying this thinking that they're also buying ultimately into what will form the template for future movies down the pipeline. __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

12-12-2015, 02:44 PM	#57
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	I refuse to believe that thing you said about DC publishing any good books, but I'll take your word for it all the same.

12-12-2015, 03:03 PM	#60
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Alright alright shaddap, you know I haven't cuz I'm broke. And frankly everything I've heard and seen of New 52 Batman is just as spotty and inconsistent as everything else, so yeah, I think my "book" on that character closed at the same time as Superman's. Right from Joker cutting his face off, and Damien getting a huge push, I'm like "Yeah, this already sucks really bad" and haven't been back. I read about the stories being published in the comics and, I gotta say... those ideas don't translate well as prose descriptions. Maybe something's lost in the translation but everything "sounds" stupid as hell whenever I read a synopsis or review. 1986 - 2011. That's the DCU. Anything else, I completely Do Not Care.