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Old 08-20-2015, 06:05 PM   #41
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I wonder if they will explain Kopas death? You can't rewrite the ending of Lion King 1.

Maybe Rafiki dropped him as soon as the credits hit lol

AFAIK, there was never a boy cub to begin with. LK 2 picked up right where the first one left off, with Rafiki saying "it's a girl". There was really no indication of the cub's gender initially anyway, which is why I was confused when a "second" cub was mentioned. Kiara was ALWAYS the first-born cub. She's the heir, pure and simple. Though given that she can't be "king" anyway, it hardly matters. Kovu took that spot.


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Kopa is not canon. They specifically state that Kion is the 2nd born cub.

So the "missing cub" is just a misunderstanding of Kiara's birth, then. Glad that's cleared up.
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Old 08-20-2015, 06:08 PM   #42
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I wonder if Kion will have a love interest, kind of like you have Simba & Nala and Kiara & Kovu.

One of the characters on the show is a female cheetah, You think maybe those two will have some kind of relationship?
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Old 08-20-2015, 06:13 PM   #43
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I think that's taking "jungle fever" a little to literally, y'know? Both cats, sure, but- wrong species, man....
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Old 08-20-2015, 06:15 PM   #44
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I think that's taking "jungle fever" a little to literally, y'know? Both cats, sure, but- wrong species, man....
I know that Cheetahs and Lions can't procreate, even though Lions and Tigers can.

But what if Kion likes that female cheetah, but they both have a platonic friendship?
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Old 08-21-2015, 01:16 AM   #45
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This is the internet there can be debates over canon of pretty much anything. LK Canon is fairly tame in comparison to some of the things people get hardcore about.
No, no. I mean I didn't know there was enough Lion King to actually have a canon debate. Not if this or that is canon.
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Old 08-21-2015, 12:07 PM   #46
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At the end of the day, the only TRUE source is Lion king 1, and at the end of that movie the cub is clearly NOT kiarra.

So if anything is not ture it would be anything after Lion king. It in suggested (in around about way) that it was possible that Kopa was killed by the Outlanders in Lionking 2.

I don't care about Kopa, that much about it. But I am afraid that the cub at the end of Lion king 1 had to be included in some way.

Kion is the 2nd born living cub, maybe that is the way to look at it.
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Old 08-21-2015, 02:58 PM   #47
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Had a quick look around about Kopa, he was nothing more than a character created for a book. Even the author has said the same.

So I guess Kiara is the cub at the end of number 1, guess you have to ignor the fact she looks a bit different.

Oh well, I guess Kion seems pretty cool, we will have to wait and see if the show is any good.
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Old 10-09-2015, 03:30 PM   #48
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Ok. Lion Guard's pilot film will air Nov 22nd at 7pm on the Disney Channel. More cast has been announced so here's the full cast:

James Earl Jones: Mufasa
Ernie Sabella: Pumbaa
Rob Lowe: Simba
Gabrielle Union: Nala
Max Charles: Kion
Eden Riegel: Kiara
Joshua Rush: Bunga the Honey Badger
Atticus Shaffer: Ono the Cattle Egret
Diamond White: Fuli the Cheetah
Dusan Brown: Beshte the Hippo
Sarah Hyland: Tiifu a female lion cub
Madison Pettis: Zuri a female lion cub
Khary Payton: Rafiki
Jeff Bennett: Zazu
Jonny Rees: Mzingo a hyena
Andrew Kishino: Janja, leader of the Hyena's
Vargus Mason: Cheezi a hyena
Kevin Schon: Chungu a hyena and Timon.
Alex Cartana: Twiga, a Girraffe

This cast list just leads to a couple questions....namely who the heck the parents are of Tifu and Zuri?! Also, where's Kovu??

http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news/2...51009disney01/
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Old 10-09-2015, 03:47 PM   #49
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We need to hear that Kovu is in this!
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Old 10-09-2015, 10:01 PM   #50
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This cast list just leads to a couple questions....namely who the heck the parents are of Tifu and Zuri?!
There's only two options, father-wise.
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Old 10-09-2015, 10:10 PM   #51
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Simba must have both the most awesome and most awkward family reunions.

Seriously, if it's anything like real life, he's gotta have more illegitimate children than Steven Tyler.
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Simba must have both the most awesome and most awkward family reunions.

Seriously, if it's anything like real life, he's gotta have more illegitimate children than Steven Tyler.
True, since he probably have cubs with many of the lionesses.
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Old 10-11-2015, 08:00 AM   #53
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Exactly. You can't tell me he's not getting some action from someone other than Nala. Lions don't just choose one mate and if that's the case, then, yeah, it might be a bit awkward for him.
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Old 10-13-2015, 04:00 PM   #54
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Nala is totally Mufasa's father. Oh uhhhhh! Nature, you sneaky little devil you!
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WHU??!! That made no sense. Don't you mean daughter?!

And given that male lions kill the cubs of their predecessors to make the lionesses go into heat, I'd say that the Lion King movies strayed a bit from real nature in that respect. If they hadn't, Nala would've been killed by Scar after he offed Mufasa and took over. Simba was run off, so he was exempt, but any other cubs would've been mauled! And yes, they DO breed with pretty much every female in the pride, so....
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Old 10-13-2015, 04:22 PM   #56
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Huh? *rereads* Oops! lol xP Nala is Mufasa's daughter, yes, thank you.
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And I just laughed at how perfect your avatar was for that gaffe, LOL!! It looks like Leo was just trying to cover his slip-up. (I know it was the tea-time scene, but his face just has that OOPS! look....)
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Old 10-13-2015, 04:59 PM   #58
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And I just laughed at how perfect your avatar was for that gaffe, LOL!! It looks like Leo was just trying to cover his slip-up. (I know it was the tea-time scene, but his face just has that OOPS! look....)
Lol! Yes. Quite. That is how the turtle do. *in True Facts faux Morgan Freeman voice*
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Ha, I loved that gaffe. Good one, Senpai. And, yeah, they kind of had to stray from fact for some of it or it would have been too traumatizing for the kids. And considering they already had Mufasa dying, they really had to be careful. But this show looks cute.
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I dunno about traumatizing, but certainly it would lead to some very uncomfortable questions surrounding parentage of all the cubs. Not to mention just WHO the father of those other cubs in LK2 was if not Scar himself.... (Siira{sp?} was explicitly his mate, but Kovu wasn't HIS?! Does that mean he's Simba's? He's the same age as Kiara, but he's considered Scar's heir.... And whose were the two older ones?)
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