New season of Angel!! - Page 3

Shellfox · 10-09-2003, 07:23 PM

you all know Wes's origin story right?
Josh Whedon came up with him went up to the actor on the first ep and said he was going to die. But before the ep ended he told the actor he was going to let him live through the ep and kill him next ep, and that went on through all of season 3. WHY! Every ep he was in in started out with him dying in the end, so how could he have lived this long!

And while my hated of Wes knows no bounds, I do like his weapons, at least the ones that pop out of his sleaves (but Angel doing it in the first ep was better)
And while I don't hate Gunn, he just doesn't stant out, he feels like a poor mans Xander to me, and I love Xander so that kinda helps me tolerate Gunn.
They should have left Fred in Pileea, see SUCKS, I liked her better when see stayed in the cave or room and obsesd over Angel, I was always waiting for her to go bezerk and try and kill every one
Lorn I loved, hes just pure comidy and style (again I think its the green thing)
Kate- granted she only had a few eps, but she was good, I always wanted her to become a main chacter, always kinda hoped shed show up and kill fred during the rampage I was waiting for above

**Karpo_007** · 10-10-2003, 01:27 AM

If you don't like almost any of the main characters, Im suprised that you have wacthed the show this long. I happen to agree with the general fanbase, the series strated a little dull, and has gotten better and better evey season. Same things seems to be happening again, altough they have much lower budget this year.

Half-Shell · 10-10-2003, 06:40 AM

I usually don't coment on shows but i'm a little boreed right now and something's been wanting to get out of my mind and speak it for a long time. Sorry if i offend anyone by what i say.

Joss Whendon has got to be one of the worst writers ever. He has great ideas but thats it. He has a great imagination. but he's not that great. He just gets Over-Geekifyed over the internet by Fantasy people. Some of the premiers and finales have been good i'll give him that but my favourite episodes are always penned by other writers. He has such an ego. Everytime i read one of his interviews i wanna beat the hell out of him with fish tied to baseball bats. He has got the be one of the least humble writers ever. I didn't like the Season premiere much i wasn't enterainted at all save for Harmony & my favourite Spike who appeared at the end.

The best people who knew what they were doing with Angel are now gone. Tim Minear & Dave Greenwalt. The last finale was incredible and one of the best ever. Bravo for Tim Minear too bad he's now gone.

I started to dislike Angel around mid Season 3 - Now. The only reason i'm watching now is Spike even though he dosen't belong on the show. I started watching Angel at the end of Season 1 when i finally got the WB channel and i loved it. I loved the whole feel of the show i loved Angel, Cordelia, Wesley, Faith & Buffy appearing in a crossover

, Wolfram & Hart: I love the idea of an Evil Law Firm. I loved this street hunter named Gunn and was so excited to see him as a main character in Season Two. Season Two i LOVED. That is when the show was truly great. It had the Crew of 4, The Host, Merl, Lindsay, Lillah, Holland & Detective Kate plus some of the coolest stories ever. Season 3 changed that get rid of Lindsay, Kate

Kill Merl

I liked that idea of Holtz the vampire hunter coming from the past but it didn't play out for me and didn't like Conner. Season 4 Premiere i didn't like at all. They made Connor a main character before the Host

And the rest i didn't enjoy.

Now Season 5. Cool idea Angel running Wolfram & Hart

Miss the Hotel

Miss Lillah

Hate New Chick

Like the idea of Spike as a ghost but he dosen't fit.

What I really don't like is Cordelia being basically a sleeping corpse. she was never my fav on that show or Buffy buit i always liked her and she fit on both shows. They need to bring her back, i hate to say it but i'd rather have Cordy then Spike. I could even live without The Host who i love or Fred if Cordy came back. Joss getting rid of her was a big mistake. Anoather reeason i dislike him is his commnts about that. "Oh there was no more story to tell" BULL Every Writer knows that there is always more stories to tell , even if a character has died there are still flashbacks or ghostform. But there never finished. Lillah being taken off is anoather Big Mistake. Her appearing as Angel's messanger was great i loved that so why'd they get rid of her? The New chick sucks both as a character and as an actress. She's no cool Wolfram & Hart Employee. I Liked Gavin better then her and i hated Gavin.. I Miss The Host/Lorne doing his Thing i loved him in Season 2 at his Club i don't mind him doing more action or whatever but he's not the same and i kinda like him less now. It's too bad the show as declined so much if only it stayed like Season 1 & 2.

I also bought Season 1 and i agree with ShellFox killing Doyle was a big mistake. Planned or not. Doyle was so Wicked Trick. Imagine Angel, Cordy, Doyle & Wes all in season 1 that would have been cool. I love Gunn though he dosen't do as much when he first appeared but when it's a Gunn episode i'm all over that. And your right Making Kate a main character would have been great. I always wanted that too. I miss her so much on that show.

Sorry as it's rather long i aplogize I was in Motermouth mode this morning.

**Karpo_007** · 10-10-2003, 06:58 AM

Totalu Disagree. Wheddon is one of the most talented writers on Holywood, he has perfectedseveral movie scripts, but is usually in credited. Angel and Buffy are of course the best proof of that, they are his children. Even if Angel has notgotten the same paraise from fans and crtitics as Buffy, I think it's just as good as series. But opinions differ, even Wheddon can't please all it seems.

Im really happy that Cordelia is gone. I agree that she was in the show way too long. I never liked Cordy&Angel romance.

Half-Shell · 10-10-2003, 07:08 AM

If you want a good writer i'll introduce you to Alan Ball he wrote American Beauty and now is the creator writer and director of HBO's Six Feet Under. The Best show on Television by far. Even when he dosen't write an episode it feels like he does because there all so good. The storries, the characters. Magnificent. While it hasn't won the Best Drama yet just the fact that it gets nominated showes how it truly is one of the best shows on Television. And it will get it's day. There's a reson why Whendon will never get an emmy or a nomination. Compared to the other fish in the sea its lucky he can still float. I hate when complain too that Buffy & Angel never win any emmys or get nominated is laughable. As much as i love them and enjoy them. There Horror shows mixed with Drama. It will never play. and compared to shows like Six Feet Under, Sopranos, The West Wing, The Shield there stories & characters don't compare.

**Karpo_007** · 10-10-2003, 07:33 AM

To each his own. I do know that critics like both, American beauty and Six feet under, I think they aren't anything special. American Beauty was quite fun, but six feet under seems just boring.

Films that I do like, Wheddon has worked with. X-men and Toy Story's scripts were both edited by him. Another great film is Speed, wich I also enjoyed very much. Maybe not heavily awarded movies, but a movie doesn't need to get awards for me to like it.

Still I think Buffy and Angel are his best work. Both shows are just brilliant, they have humour, action and great characters. They will never win emmy awards, but so what? They are great entertainment, and for me sixfeet under is far from that.

*Brodie* · 10-10-2003, 08:06 AM

I like the dialog in Angel, the sarcasm of Angel is really funny because he usually talks in such monotonic tones.

Shellfox · 10-10-2003, 12:35 PM

tried 6 feet under a few times, and I've never been able to get in to it, I don't know maybe its just the entire concept of death they made.

As for why I wacth Angel, it has Angel, one of my main reasons to watch buffy. Another reason is Lorn- hes just so diffrent from the rest of the casts of B/A, hes not a fighter, he doesn't really try to be, hes a lounge lizard with a cool gift, one that has seen to little air time as of late.
But mostly I watch the show for the secondary chacters like Lore, Kate and Lindsey- they always had so much potential, they may not have been in every ep, but when they were the ep just semed better. The makup was obviously a draw as were the stories and the chances of a Buffy cast member showing up (ozz, willow, buffy, spike, harmony- probly a few more, not sure why I havn't seen giles or Xander).
Gunn- I guess I should go back and try to explain him, its not that I don't like him, I don't like what he became. I loved his first ep, he had a good feel, and his later eps were good, especily when he introduced his battle ax. BUt the longer he went he just never distingushed him self in my eyes. And then he went after Fred and I lost all respect for teh man, she made him suck, then came him getting WRH and the panther and there was hope that he'd become something great, but no he became a lawyer

I still hold out hope that he could become cool again later (hopefully when Fred dies ina lab accedent

).
Oh and theres Skip, I liked skip he was sadistic and chipper at the same time, thats an automatic plus, shame they wasted him by making him evil
And once more I'm glad Cordy more or less rather gone, I didn't like her in Buffy didn't like her in Angel, except when Dole was around she seemed more tolerable. Yet when she became a demon I was hopeful, the odds of her becoming cool where there, but not she didn't do jack
I will contine to watch the show and enjoy what I can, but I still want new Slayers to show up, we have an entire world of them now, and I want to see them

**Karpo_007** · 10-10-2003, 12:40 PM

SMG confirmed she will be in atleast one episode this season, so I believe thats when they tell more about the new slayers.

Shellfox · 10-10-2003, 02:43 PM

I'm thinking the new slayers will be mentioned in Ep 95, since it some what deals with the renewed Watchers Council, but I'd still rather see some new slayers, there has to be at least one evil slayer out there, and they need to show her.
Also bringing up the slayers, I wonder, if a potential is born girl, but has a sex chance operation, will her/his powers still have been activated?
well away from that sick thought
I can't wait for ep 96, I won't ruin the suprise, but its cool
And apperently WB had the option after the second ep to decide weather or not to order the full 22 ep season or call it quites after ep 101( season and series). Appereantly they liked the rating Angel got and we get teh full season all the way to ep 110(season finale), if we get another season after that, I don't know

*Mars-Chan* · 10-10-2003, 02:49 PM

Could someone PLEASE tell me what happend?! I missed the second half of the episode!!!

**Karpo_007** · 10-10-2003, 03:08 PM

Well to put it short, Spike helped Angel to deal with the Necromancer, and at the end of the episode begged Fred to help him.

Good to know that a full season will be shown. Hopefully rating continue trough the season so it doesn't end this year.

*Mars-Chan* · 10-10-2003, 03:11 PM

Thank you Karpo. It was "Action Wensday" in my neck of the woods when they showed it.

**Karpo_007** · 10-10-2003, 03:13 PM

I have to use IRC to get the episodes, and it usually takes About 24 hours after airing before I can watch it. Well the good side is that there is no commercials, and I can watch them on my DVD player.

*Mars-Chan* · 10-10-2003, 03:16 PM

I may have to opt for that....

Shellfox · 10-10-2003, 03:50 PM

My one great fear in Angel is they find a way to bring ANYA back I waited what 4 seasons to see her die, and it was a good death even if they missed out on killing Andrew.
Nothing to really support this fear, but people being dead in these 2 shows isn't always permenant.
And for the record I see Anya as Cordy taken to the extreme, and since I hate Cordy there is no known word for how I feel about Anya

**Karpo_007** · 10-10-2003, 03:52 PM

Well I don't think that would happen, but you never know.

Shellfox · 10-15-2003, 07:45 PM

liking the werewolf

so is the Doc the same guy who does Flox on Enterprise or is it just me, but he can't sing, but at least Lorn is using his powers again. And I always thought that song was called Jeeses Gilr not Lonley Boy, live and learn
Nice to see Gunn not being trusted by the others
Nice to see Spike all bent out of shape over them helping the wolf and not him.

Shellfox · 10-17-2003, 05:11 AM

http://www.comingsoon.net/news.php?id=1936
good and bad news from for Angle depending on who you are (mostly bad)

Angel creator Joss Whedon says he'd like to bring Charisma Carpenter back to the show sometime this season, even if it's just to achieve an end to her character's story.

"We definitely want to see Charisma again," Whedon tells the Associated Press. "She has an important part to play this season to bring some closure." If things work out, there's a chance viewers could see Cordelia around the midway point of the season.

The odds of seeing Sarah Michelle Gellar as Buffy again on the show this season seem worse. "I'm not banking on it," Whedon said about the rumors that she would appear.

It's more likely that viewers will again see Willow (Alyson Hannigan), who appeared on the show last season.

*Mars-Chan* · 10-17-2003, 08:10 AM

MUST HURT WILLOW! *hates Willow and her ways* *slinks off*

10-09-2003, 07:23 PM	#41
Shellfox Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,234	you all know Wes's origin story right? Josh Whedon came up with him went up to the actor on the first ep and said he was going to die. But before the ep ended he told the actor he was going to let him live through the ep and kill him next ep, and that went on through all of season 3. WHY! Every ep he was in in started out with him dying in the end, so how could he have lived this long! And while my hated of Wes knows no bounds, I do like his weapons, at least the ones that pop out of his sleaves (but Angel doing it in the first ep was better) And while I don't hate Gunn, he just doesn't stant out, he feels like a poor mans Xander to me, and I love Xander so that kinda helps me tolerate Gunn. They should have left Fred in Pileea, see SUCKS, I liked her better when see stayed in the cave or room and obsesd over Angel, I was always waiting for her to go bezerk and try and kill every one Lorn I loved, hes just pure comidy and style (again I think its the green thing) Kate- granted she only had a few eps, but she was good, I always wanted her to become a main chacter, always kinda hoped shed show up and kill fred during the rampage I was waiting for above __________________ We're americans, We build Monster Trucks for fun! Imagin what we'll build when you piss us off!!- Christopher Titus

10-10-2003, 06:40 AM	#43
Half-Shell Random Punk Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 15	I usually don't coment on shows but i'm a little boreed right now and something's been wanting to get out of my mind and speak it for a long time. Sorry if i offend anyone by what i say. Joss Whendon has got to be one of the worst writers ever. He has great ideas but thats it. He has a great imagination. but he's not that great. He just gets Over-Geekifyed over the internet by Fantasy people. Some of the premiers and finales have been good i'll give him that but my favourite episodes are always penned by other writers. He has such an ego. Everytime i read one of his interviews i wanna beat the hell out of him with fish tied to baseball bats. He has got the be one of the least humble writers ever. I didn't like the Season premiere much i wasn't enterainted at all save for Harmony & my favourite Spike who appeared at the end. The best people who knew what they were doing with Angel are now gone. Tim Minear & Dave Greenwalt. The last finale was incredible and one of the best ever. Bravo for Tim Minear too bad he's now gone. I started to dislike Angel around mid Season 3 - Now. The only reason i'm watching now is Spike even though he dosen't belong on the show. I started watching Angel at the end of Season 1 when i finally got the WB channel and i loved it. I loved the whole feel of the show i loved Angel, Cordelia, Wesley, Faith & Buffy appearing in a crossover , Wolfram & Hart: I love the idea of an Evil Law Firm. I loved this street hunter named Gunn and was so excited to see him as a main character in Season Two. Season Two i LOVED. That is when the show was truly great. It had the Crew of 4, The Host, Merl, Lindsay, Lillah, Holland & Detective Kate plus some of the coolest stories ever. Season 3 changed that get rid of Lindsay, Kate Kill Merl I liked that idea of Holtz the vampire hunter coming from the past but it didn't play out for me and didn't like Conner. Season 4 Premiere i didn't like at all. They made Connor a main character before the Host And the rest i didn't enjoy. Now Season 5. Cool idea Angel running Wolfram & Hart Miss the Hotel Miss Lillah Hate New Chick Like the idea of Spike as a ghost but he dosen't fit. What I really don't like is Cordelia being basically a sleeping corpse. she was never my fav on that show or Buffy buit i always liked her and she fit on both shows. They need to bring her back, i hate to say it but i'd rather have Cordy then Spike. I could even live without The Host who i love or Fred if Cordy came back. Joss getting rid of her was a big mistake. Anoather reeason i dislike him is his commnts about that. "Oh there was no more story to tell" BULL Every Writer knows that there is always more stories to tell , even if a character has died there are still flashbacks or ghostform. But there never finished. Lillah being taken off is anoather Big Mistake. Her appearing as Angel's messanger was great i loved that so why'd they get rid of her? The New chick sucks both as a character and as an actress. She's no cool Wolfram & Hart Employee. I Liked Gavin better then her and i hated Gavin.. I Miss The Host/Lorne doing his Thing i loved him in Season 2 at his Club i don't mind him doing more action or whatever but he's not the same and i kinda like him less now. It's too bad the show as declined so much if only it stayed like Season 1 & 2. I also bought Season 1 and i agree with ShellFox killing Doyle was a big mistake. Planned or not. Doyle was so Wicked Trick. Imagine Angel, Cordy, Doyle & Wes all in season 1 that would have been cool. I love Gunn though he dosen't do as much when he first appeared but when it's a Gunn episode i'm all over that. And your right Making Kate a main character would have been great. I always wanted that too. I miss her so much on that show. Sorry as it's rather long i aplogize I was in Motermouth mode this morning. __________________ "I hope you will realize that he is not a God, nor even close to one, but closer to a fallen man who used an out to get back on his feet"

10-10-2003, 07:08 AM	#45
Half-Shell Random Punk Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 15	If you want a good writer i'll introduce you to Alan Ball he wrote American Beauty and now is the creator writer and director of HBO's Six Feet Under. The Best show on Television by far. Even when he dosen't write an episode it feels like he does because there all so good. The storries, the characters. Magnificent. While it hasn't won the Best Drama yet just the fact that it gets nominated showes how it truly is one of the best shows on Television. And it will get it's day. There's a reson why Whendon will never get an emmy or a nomination. Compared to the other fish in the sea its lucky he can still float. I hate when complain too that Buffy & Angel never win any emmys or get nominated is laughable. As much as i love them and enjoy them. There Horror shows mixed with Drama. It will never play. and compared to shows like Six Feet Under, Sopranos, The West Wing, The Shield there stories & characters don't compare. __________________ "I hope you will realize that he is not a God, nor even close to one, but closer to a fallen man who used an out to get back on his feet"

10-10-2003, 08:06 AM	#47
Brodie Certified Teacher Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bizarro Metropolis Posts: 6,495	I like the dialog in Angel, the sarcasm of Angel is really funny because he usually talks in such monotonic tones. __________________ Stupendous Monster

10-10-2003, 12:35 PM	#48
Shellfox Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,234	tried 6 feet under a few times, and I've never been able to get in to it, I don't know maybe its just the entire concept of death they made. As for why I wacth Angel, it has Angel, one of my main reasons to watch buffy. Another reason is Lorn- hes just so diffrent from the rest of the casts of B/A, hes not a fighter, he doesn't really try to be, hes a lounge lizard with a cool gift, one that has seen to little air time as of late. But mostly I watch the show for the secondary chacters like Lore, Kate and Lindsey- they always had so much potential, they may not have been in every ep, but when they were the ep just semed better. The makup was obviously a draw as were the stories and the chances of a Buffy cast member showing up (ozz, willow, buffy, spike, harmony- probly a few more, not sure why I havn't seen giles or Xander). Gunn- I guess I should go back and try to explain him, its not that I don't like him, I don't like what he became. I loved his first ep, he had a good feel, and his later eps were good, especily when he introduced his battle ax. BUt the longer he went he just never distingushed him self in my eyes. And then he went after Fred and I lost all respect for teh man, she made him suck, then came him getting WRH and the panther and there was hope that he'd become something great, but no he became a lawyer I still hold out hope that he could become cool again later (hopefully when Fred dies ina lab accedent ). Oh and theres Skip, I liked skip he was sadistic and chipper at the same time, thats an automatic plus, shame they wasted him by making him evil And once more I'm glad Cordy more or less rather gone, I didn't like her in Buffy didn't like her in Angel, except when Dole was around she seemed more tolerable. Yet when she became a demon I was hopeful, the odds of her becoming cool where there, but not she didn't do jack I will contine to watch the show and enjoy what I can, but I still want new Slayers to show up, we have an entire world of them now, and I want to see them __________________ We're americans, We build Monster Trucks for fun! Imagin what we'll build when you piss us off!!- Christopher Titus

10-10-2003, 01:27 AM	#42
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	If you don't like almost any of the main characters, Im suprised that you have wacthed the show this long. I happen to agree with the general fanbase, the series strated a little dull, and has gotten better and better evey season. Same things seems to be happening again, altough they have much lower budget this year.

10-10-2003, 06:58 AM	#44
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Totalu Disagree. Wheddon is one of the most talented writers on Holywood, he has perfectedseveral movie scripts, but is usually in credited. Angel and Buffy are of course the best proof of that, they are his children. Even if Angel has notgotten the same paraise from fans and crtitics as Buffy, I think it's just as good as series. But opinions differ, even Wheddon can't please all it seems. Im really happy that Cordelia is gone. I agree that she was in the show way too long. I never liked Cordy&Angel romance.

10-10-2003, 07:33 AM	#46
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	To each his own. I do know that critics like both, American beauty and Six feet under, I think they aren't anything special. American Beauty was quite fun, but six feet under seems just boring. Films that I do like, Wheddon has worked with. X-men and Toy Story's scripts were both edited by him. Another great film is Speed, wich I also enjoyed very much. Maybe not heavily awarded movies, but a movie doesn't need to get awards for me to like it. Still I think Buffy and Angel are his best work. Both shows are just brilliant, they have humour, action and great characters. They will never win emmy awards, but so what? They are great entertainment, and for me sixfeet under is far from that.

10-10-2003, 12:40 PM	#49
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	SMG confirmed she will be in atleast one episode this season, so I believe thats when they tell more about the new slayers.

10-10-2003, 02:43 PM	#50
Shellfox Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,234	I'm thinking the new slayers will be mentioned in Ep 95, since it some what deals with the renewed Watchers Council, but I'd still rather see some new slayers, there has to be at least one evil slayer out there, and they need to show her. Also bringing up the slayers, I wonder, if a potential is born girl, but has a sex chance operation, will her/his powers still have been activated? well away from that sick thought I can't wait for ep 96, I won't ruin the suprise, but its cool And apperently WB had the option after the second ep to decide weather or not to order the full 22 ep season or call it quites after ep 101( season and series). Appereantly they liked the rating Angel got and we get teh full season all the way to ep 110(season finale), if we get another season after that, I don't know __________________ We're americans, We build Monster Trucks for fun! Imagin what we'll build when you piss us off!!- Christopher Titus

10-10-2003, 02:49 PM	#51
Mars-Chan I'LL BE THE HERO!!!! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Practicing Alchemy in Risembool Posts: 6,297	Could someone PLEASE tell me what happend?! I missed the second half of the episode!!! __________________ clings to award THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!!! cries in joy RED DAAAAAAAAAAAAWWN!!!! PROUD Member of the Risembool Rangers! (icon made by bakergirl69 on glitter-graphics)

10-10-2003, 03:08 PM	#52
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Well to put it short, Spike helped Angel to deal with the Necromancer, and at the end of the episode begged Fred to help him. Good to know that a full season will be shown. Hopefully rating continue trough the season so it doesn't end this year.

10-10-2003, 03:11 PM	#53
Mars-Chan I'LL BE THE HERO!!!! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Practicing Alchemy in Risembool Posts: 6,297	Thank you Karpo. It was "Action Wensday" in my neck of the woods when they showed it. __________________ clings to award THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!!! cries in joy RED DAAAAAAAAAAAAWWN!!!! PROUD Member of the Risembool Rangers! (icon made by bakergirl69 on glitter-graphics)

10-10-2003, 03:13 PM	#54
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	I have to use IRC to get the episodes, and it usually takes About 24 hours after airing before I can watch it. Well the good side is that there is no commercials, and I can watch them on my DVD player.

10-10-2003, 03:16 PM	#55
Mars-Chan I'LL BE THE HERO!!!! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Practicing Alchemy in Risembool Posts: 6,297	I may have to opt for that.... __________________ clings to award THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!!! cries in joy RED DAAAAAAAAAAAAWWN!!!! PROUD Member of the Risembool Rangers! (icon made by bakergirl69 on glitter-graphics)

10-10-2003, 03:50 PM	#56
Shellfox Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,234	My one great fear in Angel is they find a way to bring ANYA back I waited what 4 seasons to see her die, and it was a good death even if they missed out on killing Andrew. Nothing to really support this fear, but people being dead in these 2 shows isn't always permenant. And for the record I see Anya as Cordy taken to the extreme, and since I hate Cordy there is no known word for how I feel about Anya __________________ We're americans, We build Monster Trucks for fun! Imagin what we'll build when you piss us off!!- Christopher Titus

10-10-2003, 03:52 PM	#57
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Well I don't think that would happen, but you never know.

10-15-2003, 07:45 PM	#58
Shellfox Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,234	liking the werewolf so is the Doc the same guy who does Flox on Enterprise or is it just me, but he can't sing, but at least Lorn is using his powers again. And I always thought that song was called Jeeses Gilr not Lonley Boy, live and learn Nice to see Gunn not being trusted by the others Nice to see Spike all bent out of shape over them helping the wolf and not him. __________________ We're americans, We build Monster Trucks for fun! Imagin what we'll build when you piss us off!!- Christopher Titus

10-17-2003, 05:11 AM	#59
Shellfox Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,234	http://www.comingsoon.net/news.php?id=1936 good and bad news from for Angle depending on who you are (mostly bad) Angel creator Joss Whedon says he'd like to bring Charisma Carpenter back to the show sometime this season, even if it's just to achieve an end to her character's story. "We definitely want to see Charisma again," Whedon tells the Associated Press. "She has an important part to play this season to bring some closure." If things work out, there's a chance viewers could see Cordelia around the midway point of the season. The odds of seeing Sarah Michelle Gellar as Buffy again on the show this season seem worse. "I'm not banking on it," Whedon said about the rumors that she would appear. It's more likely that viewers will again see Willow (Alyson Hannigan), who appeared on the show last season. __________________ We're americans, We build Monster Trucks for fun! Imagin what we'll build when you piss us off!!- Christopher Titus

10-17-2003, 08:10 AM	#60
Mars-Chan I'LL BE THE HERO!!!! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Practicing Alchemy in Risembool Posts: 6,297	MUST HURT WILLOW! hates Willow and her ways slinks off __________________ clings to award THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!!! cries in joy RED DAAAAAAAAAAAAWWN!!!! PROUD Member of the Risembool Rangers! (icon made by bakergirl69 on glitter-graphics)