Chances for season 6 renewal?

[Powder]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Maybe the show will be revamped for its last 2 seasons. Similar to the original cartoon's "Red sky era" and Fast Forward/BTTS for the 2k3 series.

For some reason TMNT cartoons always go through radical changes in their final seasons. If it happens to the Nick cartoon as well I wouldn't be surprised.

I don't want that, but one can't help but wonder what wackiness they'd come up with this time around.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Powder

I don't want that, but one can't help but wonder what wackiness they'd come up with this time around.

I was thinking more of a time skip. Turtles would be 18, April and Casey would be adults. Everyone would have new CG models because everyone would look older.

I guess similar to the 2007 movie is what I'm imagining if you need an example.

[Unworthy tinker]

I thought about the possibly of the last few seasons being different when five was announced, (especially since it appears to have a mystic theme similar to season five of the 2003 series. Maybe six can be a retelling of Fast forward? Heh). There's something about that idea that makes me wonder though. So, OT went from wacky to serious, and 2003 went from serious to relatively lighthearted to try and gain viewers again. What about this series? It's not super serious, but still not as silly as the OT. More serious does seem like a better direction IMO, but it's Nickelodeon, so I wouldn't be surprised if they went 4Kids with this.

In short: if they do have the traditional(? Eh, it's only been done twice) revamp in the last few seasons, I'd like to see it go darker in tone, but it's Nickelodeon. They'll probably make it a lot more lighthearted. (seriously, how'd they ever agree to Avatar and Kora?)

[Powder]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I was thinking more of a time skip. Turtles would be 18, April and Casey would be adults. Everyone would have new CG models because everyone would look older.

I guess similar to the 2007 movie is what I'm imagining if you need an example.

That wouldn't be too bad, if done right. Unfortunately though it'd probably just be some toy gimmick.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by Powder

That wouldn't be too bad, if done right. Unfortunately though it'd probably just be some toy gimmick.

Coming 2018 from Playmates Toys... "Full Shell Heroes!"

[snake]

I'm getting a "change" vibe from those SDCC pics of the toys especially

[thundermaster612]

Originally Posted by snake

I'm getting a "change" vibe from those SDCC pics of the toys especially

I'm getting a Mystic Turtles 2k3 vibe for the show and a goofy variants by Playmates vibe for the toys.

[Jephael]

Originally Posted by thundermaster612

I'm getting a Mystic Turtles 2k3 vibe for the show and a goofy variants by Playmates vibe for the toys.

Well, they are gonna be facing a demon in the next season, so there's a good chance they're going that route.

[TMNTInsighter]

I was starting to think quite a bit of spinoffs even though I know they've got their hands full enough as it is with the current series.

[Coola Yagami]

To be honest returning to new York to finally settle the score with shredder and restore karai would be the best way to end the series. They've done most of what they could and reintroduced most of the characters from throughout the series. I mean noone is gonna cry that Radical or Dreadmon never made an appearance.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

To be honest returning to new York to finally settle the score with shredder and restore karai would be the best way to end the series. They've done most of what they could and reintroduced most of the characters from throughout the series. I mean noone is gonna cry that Radical or Dreadmon never made an appearance.

There's still plenty of characters without appearances they can use.

I'm surprised Groundchuck and Dirtbag haven't shown up yet. They're two notable mutants who haven't appeared yet they bring back one-offs like Muckman and Mutagen Man.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

There's still plenty of characters without appearances they can use.

I'm surprised Groundchuck and Dirtbag haven't shown up yet. They're two notable mutants who haven't appeared yet they bring back one-offs like Muckman and Mutagen Man.

But those aren't characters that add to the story and you can't exactly make an arc around them. They did Shredder, the Kraang and the Triceratons. They threw in several Mirage influenced arcs and outer space. Hey, they've had their chance to use them but they chose Wyrm and Armagon and even Lord Dregg instead. They even could have had a season with Bishop and Hun hunting them down, but they pretty much made them into side characters.

Noone said they have to use every single TMNT character in existence. They could just go to New York and end their battle with the Shredder and cure Karai and end it.

That's not to say they won't throw in some filler eps here and there, or that Shredder can't also mutate Groundchuck and Dirtbag as a final strike against the heroes. I feel as a final battle, he's going to go all out with everything in his arsenal, possibly even mutate Hun, or himself. The Mutanimals could even come in with some new members on their team. That Mutagen Rain that the Turtles pretty much ignored after a few episodes can explain any new random mutant.

I just don't really see where else they can go from here. It's gone on long enough. The OT had several seasons of silliness that literally could have gone forever until the fad died and they decided to wrap it up with Red Sky. 2K3 also ran out of ideas and had to resort to Fast Forward and Back to the Sewers. This show is on its last legs unless they also resort to some cheesy re-name.

[CyberCubed]

No, there is plenty for them to still do. The mere fact that Season 5 is some sort of mystical arc akin to the Ninja Tribunal storyline or the Pantheon story from IDW says a lot.

Also we still need a Battle Nexus arc or some type of intergalactic tournament.

There's also more time travel stories to tell with Renet and Savanti.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

No, there is plenty for them to still do. The mere fact that Season 5 is some sort of mystical arc akin to the Ninja Tribunal storyline or the Pantheon story from IDW says a lot.

Also we still need a Battle Nexus arc or some type of intergalactic tournament.

There's also more time travel stories to tell with Renet and Savanti.

It's up to them. But if they do that, they'll need to put Shredder on ice for a while. That would be a cool thing to see. Shredder's 'final defeat'. Beat him down. Defeat all the henchmen, dismantle the Foot, destroy the building. Just end it.

Then focus a season or two on the Battle Nexus, filler stuff and *GASP* all new enemies with all new situations never seen before in past media. Also shows what happens to characters like Tiger Claw, Bebop and Rocksteady without Shredder around.

Then bring Shredder back, more powerful than ever, even more filled with hatred after months of rebuilding his body and his empire. Maybe at this time they can make him kill Splinter or even April or Casey. I know they'd never have the balls to kill one of the Turtles.

Again, noone said they HAVE to copy every single past story. It's time they do their own thing. The 80's cartoon gave us a lot of characters and the Technodrome. The Mirage comics gave us the Triceratons and the whole 'Leo is almost killed, they must escape to Northampton' arc. The 2K3 cartoon gave us the Battle Nexus arc and other characters. What has this cartoon given us? Other than a few characters and Psychic Power April.... not much of anything. And now it looks like they're gonna rip off the Tribunal arc? C'mon.

It's time that they do something new, a storyarc so epic that they next TMNT incarnation is going to do their own take on it. I mean, c'mon... when you think about it.... there's nothing this cartoon has for any future incarnation to adapt. It's all taken from something else. What's the next cartoon show going to do? Re-tell the 'escape to Northampton' arc for a third time?

[CyberCubed]

People want to see new takes on old stories.

[victory_angel]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

People want to see new takes on old stories.

Yes, but we also want to see things that are original as well. For example we had that argument between Donnie and Leo in the season two finale. Leo and Donnie fighting each other hasn't really been done before. Yes, they have moments in most other incarnations where Don blows up at one or all of his brothers or get into Leo's face about some things, but mostly Leo and Donnie haven't had all out arguments with mounting hostility.

Heck in the Mirage Mikey does call Donnie "Leo Jr." for a reason.

And there is still some noticeable tension between them that has been building since the ending the second invasion. But we need more than just Donnie and Leo getting into a fight.

Same thing with Donnie having a crush on April, that also hasn't really been done in previous incarnations. I mean yeah we have had Don having a short lived crush in the 2k3. And each of the Turtles being attracted to her in their own way. But mostly Aprils been a psudo-mother/Big-sister to them.

But we need more plots then just that. Okay so season five could be Tribunal/Nexus theme we don't know we just know that mystic elements will be involved.

Remakes of old plots are fine...but adding in new eliements is also just as good.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

People want to see new takes on old stories.

No, YOU want to see new takes on old stories. You were the one wishing Shredder would kill Chris and Xever to bring in Bebop and Rocksteady and mutate a random Kraang into 'THEE Krang'. You were the one hellbent on Steranko not being Rocksteady because he would be stuck with the Russian accent.

I think we've seen enough of the old stories. We need new ones too, or the next series will be doomed to fail, only rehashing stuff that's been rehashed before.

This show already brought in 80's elements and characters, a few 2K3 elements and characters and several Mirage storyarcs that 2K3 already covered.

Now the show needs it's own unique storyarc so that the next series in line will have their take on it.

The 80's brought in a bunch of characters. 2K3 brought in some of their own but also did a lot of Mirage stuff. This new show hasn't done all that much except de-age some characters and throw in a few new ones, that turn out to be older characters anyways. It's time they step up and show us what they can really do.

[CyberCubed]

Both Nick and IDW are re-tellings of the last 30 years of TMNT history with some new stuff added. That's what we want.

[Huzzah]

We? Frankly I'm ready for new stories, I'm honestly tired of the same ol song and dance. I'm tired of Shredder being the antagonist even long after his arc should be over (like one season max).

Next Mutation, for all its awfulness, introduced almost entirely new elements and story attributes without rehashing the same stories. Had they chosen a different avenue than live action with minimal budget, it probably would've been better received.

[Etsyturtle2]

If we keep getting rehashes, what are future versions gonna pull from? We need more original stuff.