New Gods Movie

[ZariusTwo]

Ava DuVernay has signed on to helm the New Gods movie

http://variety.com/2018/film/news/av...dc-1202725043/

[Andrew NDB]

I like the New Gods but... is this a good idea? They've never been able to even hold down a comic for longer than a year or two, let alone anything else.

[Autbot_Benz]

As long as Oprah isn't in it I am good. Be cool too see Orion Mr Miracle Big Berda and Granny Goodness

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Sure, DC/WB... sure.

[AquaParade]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I like the New Gods but... is this a good idea? They've never been able to even hold down a comic for longer than a year or two, let alone anything else.

I think it's great because it's not only wildly imaginative, but it's quite different, relatively speaking, from other comic book movies we are seeing right now.

I can't comment on the director though, so that, along with DC's track record with films lately, is where my trepidation comes in.

[Andrew NDB]

Two things. One, this is probably phase 2 of Geoff Johns' "DC movies can be light! See!" (phase 1 is Shazam). Two, WB saw what happened with WW and now with Black Panther and wants to make a film insulated from criticism by diversity. As things get underway I expect to see lots of behind the scenes things telling us all about how the cast and crew are so diverse and enjoy working together so much.

Maybe a third thing: WB was really, really banking on A Wrinkle being a bona fide hit. Oops.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

What is even the point of all these announcements?

At this point, I think WB needs to shut up and not announce a single movie until they're showing trailers. Announce they've signed directors and actors and actresses, but don't say crap about what the movies are. Nerds and critics alike will speculate out the wazoo. Then wow people with trailers.

I think that might help buy back a little positive PR. It sure would from ME, anyway.

[NinjaPug]

After seeing Wrinkle in Time I don't want to see any big budget movie with Ava at the helm. Granted the script was awful so she didn't have much to work with but WiT was a poorly shot movie. Her framing choices in the first act of the movie were awful - every single shot was a close up of someone's face and the editing exacerbated these bad choices.

I know all the reviewers wanted to give Ava the benefit of the doubt with WiT but it was awful and it concerns me that she's involved with another movie of that size again already.

[AquaParade]

Sounds like a potential stone thrown at Snyder, perhaps in favor of people she is close to at WB, because I don't buy that reason.

Or possibly an excuse for a film that just wasn't coming together, in script or concept.

[Leo656]

It would appear that so far, most people who've voiced any opinion on the matter do not, in fact, believe her suggestion.

The predominantly expressed opinion thus far is that after her previous movie sank like a brick, WB simply decided that the project was too much of a risk to move forward in its then-current form.

There's things we Know and things we can Suppose. And those things together can tell us a whole lot.

Things We Know:
- "A Wrinkle In Time" lost around one hundred and thirty million dollars.
- People were told they should see it, mostly because "It's the first $100 million+ movie directed by a black woman." What that has to do with the movie being good or not, I'm not sure I comprehend.
- Lots of people who liked the book it was (loosely) based on, hated the movie for its deviations.
- People who never read the book said the movie was very pretty, but sometimes incoherent and sterile.
- Disney hates losing money.
- WB, also, hates losing money.
- And now they see their new diversity hire who's supposed to direct their very expensive New Gods movie just pissed away over $100 million of their main competitor's money.
- Despite every reason anyone gave for not seeing/not liking "A Wrinkle In Time" - and there multiple reasons given - the reason the director and Disney decided to insist upon was, "Y'all just racist."
- She has now twice in a row blamed other people for one of her projects not turning out as planned. First the "racists" who didn't go see "A Wrinkle In Time", and now Zack Snyder and HBO Max.

Things We Can Suppose (based on Things We Know):
- WB decided, based on All That Other Stuff Before, that having this woman direct New Gods was suddenly too large of a risk.
- This woman is persistently full of sh*t. (To be fair, this one should probably be under "Things We Know" but I'm trying to be nice)

[Andrew NDB]

Conversely, had Wrinkle in Time done amazing blockbuster numbers... WB would have surely fast-tracked New Gods.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Conversely, had Wrinkle in Time done amazing blockbuster numbers... WB would have surely fast-tracked New Gods.

Quite possibly. But if "Ifs" and "Buts" were candy and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas.

[AquaParade]

Originally Posted by Leo656

It would appear that so far, most people who've voiced any opinion on the matter do not, in fact, believe her suggestion.

The predominantly expressed opinion thus far is that after her previous movie sank like a brick, WB simply decided that the project was too much of a risk to move forward in its then-current form.

There's things we Know and things we can Suppose. And those things together can tell us a whole lot.

Things We Know:
- "A Wrinkle In Time" lost around one hundred and thirty million dollars.
- People were told they should see it, mostly because "It's the first $100 million+ movie directed by a black woman." What that has to do with the movie being good or not, I'm not sure I comprehend.
- Lots of people who liked the book it was (loosely) based on, hated the movie for its deviations.
- People who never read the book said the movie was very pretty, but sometimes incoherent and sterile.
- Disney hates losing money.
- WB, also, hates losing money.
- And now they see their new diversity hire who's supposed to direct their very expensive New Gods movie just pissed away over $100 million of their main competitor's money.
- Despite every reason anyone gave for not seeing/not liking "A Wrinkle In Time" - and there multiple reasons given - the reason the director and Disney decided to insist upon was, "Y'all just racist."
- She has now twice in a row blamed other people for one of her projects not turning out as planned. First the "racists" who didn't go see "A Wrinkle In Time", and now Zack Snyder and HBO Max.

Things We Can Suppose (based on Things We Know):
- WB decided, based on All That Other Stuff Before, that having this woman direct New Gods was suddenly too large of a risk.
- This woman is persistently full of sh*t. (To be fair, this one should probably be under "Things We Know" but I'm trying to be nice)

Good rundown.

Really, it's just hard to believe that WB would allow three different versions of Batman on the big screen, while shutting down New Gods because Darkside was featured in a couple small snippets of a director's cut that went straight to streaming.

The most I am willing to believe is that this is the reasoning WB gave her, and she is willing to run with it, because it sounds better for her than the real reasoning.

[Jester]

I wonder what DC will think about the New Gods once the numbers are finally in for Eternals. I mean it's their Go-to Crazy Kirby World.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by Jester

I wonder what DC will think about the New Gods once the numbers are finally in for Eternals. I mean it's their Go-to Crazy Kirby World.

They will probably be glad they didn't make it.....

[AquaParade]

Well, if Eternals underperforms, in terms relative to the MCU, then maybe WB will see it as an opening to "do Jack Kirby the right way".

I hate to fall back to this, but I don't think Zack Snyder would be a bad choice for a New Gods movie. I'd love to see his take on it, and I also wonder if it'd allow him to play with more color and saturation than he is usually accustomed to, which might also be fun to see.