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Old 03-28-2004, 01:43 AM   #41
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I just thought I'd point out that the Nazis were a little interested in the supernatural and the occult. I would point out some of their early, lesser known visits to Tibet as an example of that. Hitler's obsession with the Spear of Destiny is another example.
So it's not really that much of a stretch for the sake of fiction that a group of Nazis couldn't have actually tried something and succeeded. Ok, maybe it is.

But in a movie where the hero is a huge red demon, does it really matter?No one is taking this as historical fact anyway(to do that, you'd have to believe a certain "mad monk" survived his famous death, along with many other things...). Besides that, Kroenen is more than just a Nazi, I've seen what he looks like in this movie underneath the mask...


The comics, at least the ones I've read, are great, so I'm very much looking forward to this movie. If anyone is interested, you can read some of the comics online at Dark Horse's webpage: http://www.darkhorse.com/zones/hellboy/downloads.php
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Old 03-28-2004, 02:00 AM   #42
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I just thought I'd point out that the Nazis were a little interested in the supernatural and the occult. I would point out some of their early, lesser known visits to Tibet as an example of that. Hitler's obsession with the Spear of Destiny is another example.
So it's not really that much of a stretch for the sake of fiction that a group of Nazis couldn't have actually tried something and succeeded. Ok, maybe it is.

But in a movie where the hero is a huge red demon, does it really matter?No one is taking this as historical fact anyway(to do that, you'd have to believe a certain "mad monk" survived his famous death, along with many other things...). Besides that, Kroenen is more than just a Nazi, I've seen what he looks like in this movie underneath the mask...


The comics, at least the ones I've read, are great, so I'm very much looking forward to this movie. If anyone is interested, you can read some of the comics online at Dark Horse's webpage: http://www.darkhorse.com/zones/hellboy/downloads.php
Whoa whoa whoa...hold everything. I was convinced this was historically accurate to the T! What gives? Surely comic books haven't been lying to me these past 70 years.
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Old 03-28-2004, 11:23 AM   #43
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Yeah, it's just a movie.

But I wonder how Kroenen won the Knight's Cross, and de-nazified one at that... or how he became a Lieutenant Colonel in the SS for that matter.
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Old 03-28-2004, 12:51 PM   #44
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Yeah, it's just a movie.

But I wonder how Kroenen won the Knight's Cross, and de-nazified one at that... or how he became a Lieutenant Colonel in the SS for that matter.
In the novelization, they said that he's "one of the Reich's top scientists, and head of the Thule occult society." So, I dunno.

Here's the exerpt from the book:

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He had a good bead on the man scrambling below, and... yes, there he was. He'd been afraid of that. "Karl Ruprecht Kroenen, one of the recich's top scientists. Head of the Thule Occult Society." Broom Grimaced and passed the binoculars back to whitman. "If he's here, this is worse than I thought."
That's from the very begining before they raise hellboy or anything.
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