TMNT: Smash-Up

[Ninjinister]

Mirage owns all of the OT characters. Period. End of story. I'd like to shank whoever made up that dumb rumor.

[Blade Raider]

Originally Posted by The Ninjinister

Mirage owns all of the OT characters. Period. End of story. I'd like to shank whoever made up that dumb rumor.

More like Mirage owns all characters created for Ninja Turtles. Period. End of story.

I agree with your other statement.

EDIT: Whoops, forgot about Aska. I do believe she's own by Konami. Eitherway, there's very very few they don't own.

[Ninjinister]

Originally Posted by Blade Raider

More like Mirage owns all characters created for Ninja Turtles. Period. End of story.

I agree with your other statement.

EDIT: Whoops, forgot about Aska. I do believe she's own by Konami. Eitherway, there's very very few they don't own.

I hear that Konami owns Aska and Sisyphus, but I've never seen any source to back that up. Keep forgetting to ask someone at Mirage. By that measure, wouldn't like Shogun and Tora and the Fire Freaks, Frosty the Hitman, and so forth qualify as well?

[sdp]

They don't own Ninjara either though right? She was in another comic.

And well if Mirage owns the characters and theres no licensing issue then I think the chances of OT characters are very high. They'd be stupid to not use them.

[Blade Raider]

Originally Posted by The Ninjinister

I hear that Konami owns Aska and Sisyphus, but I've never seen any source to back that up. Keep forgetting to ask someone at Mirage. By that measure, wouldn't like Shogun and Tora and the Fire Freaks, Frosty the Hitman, and so forth qualify as well?

Yeah, the more I thought of it, there's plenty they don't own, but at most there's 20 or so they don't have access to. Eitherway, unless you get into real obscure characters you aren't gonna find ones that can't be in this game. Hell, there's a good chance Usagi will be in it and his very much NOT Mirage owned.

Originally Posted by sdp

They don't own Ninjara either though right? She was in another comic.

She was created by Murphy, so that doesn't matter. They can use her if they want to. I assume Murphy owns the rights to all the characters he created but since works for Mirage...

[sdp]

Originally Posted by The Ninjinister

I hear that Konami owns Aska and Sisyphus, but I've never seen any source to back that up. Keep forgetting to ask someone at Mirage. By that measure, wouldn't like Shogun and Tora and the Fire Freaks, Frosty the Hitman, and so forth qualify as well?

Who are those?



Also wasn't Aska in other Konami videogames?
I do think its very likely for Konami to own them mostly because of how Square owns the mario characters from SMRPG, and whoever made the Street Fighter EX games owns those characters not capcom. In the VG industry most of the time it does seem that way.

[Blade Raider]

Originally Posted by sdp

Who are those?



Also wasn't Aska in other Konami videogames?
I do think its very likely for Konami to own them mostly because of how Square owns the mario characters from SMRPG, and whoever made the Street Fighter EX games owns those characters not capcom. In the VG industry most of the time it does seem that way.

Yeah, their all Konami game characters and all super obscure, so I don't even know why anyone in charge would even think of (or remember for that matter) them for this game.

I think Aska was a parody of an existing game character, but not in another game.

[Coola Yagami]

How come the official site didn't annouce Casey, the Utrom and Foot Ninja yet? Why does Wikipedia say Leatherhead will be in it and noone else does?

With 10 characters already announced... will they be adding any more characters? When will this game be released?

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Why does Wikipedia say Leatherhead will be in it and noone else does?

It's publicly edited... I would imagine that some dumbf**k thought that the Gator that jumps outta that jungle level and eats you was LH.

[Blade Raider]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

How come the official site didn't annouce Casey, the Utrom and Foot Ninja yet?

Their slow.

With 10 characters already announced... will they be adding any more characters?

I refuse to pay full price if there's only 10 characters. Most fighters have at least 20 these days and I'm sure there's many more.

When will this game be released?

When it comes out. Seriously, fall.

[Ninjinister]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

How come the official site didn't annouce Casey, the Utrom and Foot Ninja yet?

No idea.

Why does Wikipedia say Leatherhead will be in it and noone else does?

Because although it is likely, there is no evidence yet, and people love making s*** up and adding it to Wikipedia.

With 10 characters already announced... will they be adding any more characters?

I doubt it will only have ten characters

When will this game be released?

September.

[deathtojohnny]

From the look of it, the first video introduced Leonardo, Splinter, Shredder and April. The second video introduced Raphael, Casey Jones, Foot Ninja and Utrominator.

If we can trust the pattern, then the next two videos should be Michelangelo and 3 more characters and then Donatello and 3 more characters. I doubt they will include hidden characters in these videos. So character selection, I estimate the number to be somewhere in the 20s. Good number for the first part in a potential series.

[Ninjinister]

Michelangelo was also in the first video...

[sdp]

But Donatello wasn't so I do expect him to be in the next trailer which will likely be at ComicCon.

They did say that they would slowly start releasing the characters after E3 and mainly specified that at Comic Con and some event in September..


A 20 character roster sounds like a realistic amount. Brawl had 35 and Melee had 26. Though up there in the 30s would be much better....I don't care if a lot of them are clones.


1. Leo
2. Mikey
3. Don
4. Raph
5. Shredder
6. Splinter
7. April
8. Casey Jones
9. Foot soldier
10. Utrominator

All of these confirmed, the first 8 are basically expected.
Now some speculation on some that will most likely definitely be in it (ordered from most likely to less likely):

Karai
Baxter Stockman*
Leatherhead*
Ratking
Triceraton
* any version

Now if we do get OT characters then we are definitely getting:
Krang
Rocksteady
Beebop
Those are no brainers they are the most iconic characters

After those only other big OT character would be Slash that may be able to be there.

If movie characters are allowed then we're definitely getting Tokka and Rahzar.

NT characters which are likely but really don't want.
Hun

Archie characters that are very likely if we get any Archie:
Armaggon

Character that has NO chance in being here but want really badly:

Venus


A potential secret character: Hamato Yoshi



Well at least this list is more realistic than the ones we were making before.

[The Shelf]

You forgot about Fugitoid. He's been hinted at by Peter Laird and someone else who I can't seem to remember right now.

I'd add Usagi to the list of probable characters too. I think he's been in every major TMNT incarnation except the movies. Was he in the Archie series? I haven't read that yet, so I can't vouch for it.

I actually would prefer Yoshi not be in the game if it means we could get a different character in his place. I think he's overrated. Other than that, I'd be happy with the roster you have there, sdp (though I obviously hope there's even more... ).

[Coola Yagami]

Usagi belongs to Stan Sakai, it depends on if they get the rights to him. People keep forgetting he's not an official TMNT character, more of a crossover character.


Hmmm Krang might seem to redundant since we already have an Utrom, but if they do choose to go with the OT, Bebop and Rocksteady are shoe-ins considering they re-released the figures and will be in that new DVD movie. Slash might be in it when you consider the fact that his figure was also re-released.

Karai is the only one from the movie missing, cause I seriously doubt they'd waste valuable character slots with Max or any of the Generals.

[Ninjinister]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Usagi belongs to Stan Sakai, it depends on if they get the rights to him. People keep forgetting he's not an official TMNT character, more of a crossover character.

Didn't stop him from appearing in the Battle Nexus game.

[Coola Yagami]

Awesome. That gives hope for Usagi in this one. Though it all depends on how far Ubisoft wants to go.

[sdp]

Well I've read the whole thread again and I'm slightly more optimistic.

They did mention early on they were taking all universes into account for the game but mostly based on the new movie. So at least they didn't straight up like like I thought they had, they did mention that in a early interview.



Anyone wonder what the story mode will be like?

Sadly they already mentioned it was not going to be like Subspace from Brawl, which is a shame since that would be perfect counting the turtles video game roots were side scroller beat em ups.

They also mention that story mode is not going to be the focus of the game sadly but that it will have a story mode and that the story is being written by Laird so I'm still hoping for something cool.

[The Shelf]

Originally Posted by sdp

Sadly they already mentioned it was not going to be like Subspace from Brawl, which is a shame since that would be perfect counting the turtles video game roots were side scroller beat em ups.

They also mention that story mode is not going to be the focus of the game sadly but that it will have a story mode and that the story is being written by Laird so I'm still hoping for something cool.

I would qualify neither of those things as being "sadly." Subspace was really frustrating and did not play like a typical side scroller beat-em-up at all. I wouldn't call if awful, but the amount of fun my friends and I had playing it did not match the amount of frustration we got out of it. Also, the game shouldn't be focusing on the story mode. We have a dozen other TMNT games that focus on that. This is a party fighter -- story mode should be an addition rather than a focus.

Anyway, I've been excited about this game nearly since day 1, so I'm glad to see others beginning to come around.