New Smash Bros for 3ds and Wii U

[sdp]

Is Captain Toad supposed to be the main toad? Or is blue toad supposed to be the main toad and retconned to be blue? I've read both versions. I think the only reason Blue toad is Blue was so you wouldn't have two "red" characters on screen in NSMBWii, still kind of sucks "the" toad wasn't in the game. Hell I still don't know why Peach or even Wario/Waluigi weren't in the NSMBWii/U games instead of Toads. Who in the hell prefers to be a toad than the other more iconic characters.

And why is Nintendo pushing Rosalina so hard? I never liked her since she seemed a slightly modified Princess Peach. But while she had plenty of spotlight in the first Galaxy game she was kind of put on the back burner for Galaxy 2. But she never misses a spin-off title now and to be included as a playable character in 3D World and Smash seems odd and all of the sudden. The only thing that makes Rosalina Redeemable to me is if she is indeed Mario/Peache's Daughter like the Game Theory video suggested.

As far as Waluigi, him not being on Smash is ok, but he definitely deserves to be in a game as the main Villain. He only ever appears in spin-off games. Why isn't he with Wario in the Warioware series? Why wasn't he involved in the Luigi's Mansion games? Missed opportunities. Same with Princess Daisy, why bring her back from obscurity as Luigis potential love interest only to have her stay there. Do kids today even know where Daisy is from outside of Spin-off games? But I'm already way off topic.

[TheBlueTurtle1]

Originally Posted by Netkeeper

The real important question:

Is the sandbag a prop or playable character in that fanart

lol no I did them to make the pic a little more interesting. Also on my dev page I have said that Slippy and Peppy are assist only. I put there, 1. because they are awesome, and 2. because I was having fun giving them a design to match Fox and Falco.

Seems like most people are gonna try 1 or 2 amiibos, that's cool.

I just thought Waluigi should be on because well, he's Waluigi, he could have played using sports gear as weapons. A lot fan seemed pi~~ed off when he was de-confirmed.

[Memphis]

I'm only buying the Mario amiibo. My birthday is early December so I'll probably just get a bunch of them from friends as gifts.

[CyberCubed]

I'm surprised they didn't make Daisy into a full Peach alt like Alph or the Koopalings. Daisy uses all the same stuff Peach does anyway so the moveset works for her.

[TheBlueTurtle1]

Originally Posted by sdp

Is Captain Toad supposed to be the main toad? Or is blue toad supposed to be the main toad and retconned to be blue? I've read both versions. I think the only reason Blue toad is Blue was so you wouldn't have two "red" characters on screen in NSMBWii, still kind of sucks "the" toad wasn't in the game. Hell I still don't know why Peach or even Wario/Waluigi weren't in the NSMBWii/U games instead of Toads. Who in the hell prefers to be a toad than the other more iconic characters.

And why is Nintendo pushing Rosalina so hard? I never liked her since she seemed a slightly modified Princess Peach. But while she had plenty of spotlight in the first Galaxy game she was kind of put on the back burner for Galaxy 2. But she never misses a spin-off title now and to be included as a playable character in 3D World and Smash seems odd and all of the sudden. The only thing that makes Rosalina Redeemable to me is if she is indeed Mario/Peache's Daughter like the Game Theory video suggested.

As far as Waluigi, him not being on Smash is ok, but he definitely deserves to be in a game as the main Villain. He only ever appears in spin-off games. Why isn't he with Wario in the Warioware series? Why wasn't he involved in the Luigi's Mansion games? Missed opportunities. Same with Princess Daisy, why bring her back from obscurity as Luigis potential love interest only to have her stay there. Do kids today even know where Daisy is from outside of Spin-off games? But I'm already way off topic.

Yea I agree, Waluigi would have been great in Luigi's Mansion, and wario ware.Most kids think Daisy is a recent character made for Luigi and baby Luigi and baby mario are there sons etc.

They should make that clear. Daisy is actually a really old character.

[Ninjinister]

Originally Posted by Memphis

I'm one of those people who wants Waluigi to playable >.< I've always liked him. Idk why.

It's 'cause he's the best damn character in all of Mario history, that's why!

[TheBlueTurtle1]

Originally Posted by Ninjinister

It's 'cause he's the best damn character in all of Mario history, that's why!

LOL. He could have made the roster just on the fact of tag team battles with Wario against the Mario Bros.

[TheBlueTurtle1]

Guys, I have a question, I am thinking baout getting animal crossing new leaf, it's the only game that is on SSB that I know nothing about. The villager is so fun on the demo, I feel like getting the game..... should I ????

[chrisdude]

Everyone should have Animal Crossing.

That's just my two cents.

[Netkeeper]

Originally Posted by TheBlueTurtle1

Guys, I have a question, I am thinking baout getting animal crossing new leaf, it's the only game that is on SSB that I know nothing about. The villager is so fun on the demo, I feel like getting the game..... should I ????

Do it. Animal Crossing is a great series.

[CyberCubed]

I got bored of Animal Crossing after the DS one (I bought the original gamecube one in 2003), but if you never played the series before get the 3DS one and have some fun.

I think all the Animal Crossing games get boring after the first 1-2 months of playing though, since there's really not much to do in them.

[TheBlueTurtle1]

i was gonna get the art fo capcom complete history but it's been delayed till jan. So ill order animal crossing, while i wait. Thanks guys

[CyberCubed]

So Sakurai actually confirmed the reason the Ice Climbers were cut is because he couldn't have them running properly on the 3DS, so he cut them out of the Wii-U version too despite them already being in that game.

I find this ridiculous. Ice Climbers being cut from the Wii-U version just because the 3DS can't handle them is idiotic. I don't understand why Sakurai feels both versions have to have the same roster. Losing a character and a veteran from the series from 2001 like the Ice Climbers because of a handheld makes no sense.

I really hope the cut characters appear on the Wii-U as part of DLC or free updates later on.

On a side note, Sakurai also confirmed Snake was never planned to return even back in 2012.

[chrisdude]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

So Sakurai actually confirmed the reason the Ice Climbers were cut is because he couldn't have them running properly on the 3DS, so he cut them out of the Wii-U version too despite them already being in that game.

I find this ridiculous. Ice Climbers being cut from the Wii-U version just because the 3DS can't handle them is idiotic. I don't understand why Sakurai feels both versions have to have the same roster. Losing a character and a veteran from the series from 2001 like the Ice Climbers because of a handheld makes no sense.

I really hope the cut characters appear on the Wii-U as part of DLC or free updates later on.

On a side note, Sakurai also confirmed Snake was never planned to return even back in 2012.

It's obviously a priority to make sure that the 3DS version isn't considered inferior, or dumbed down. Plus, there's connectivity between the two versions. And amiibo for both versions. They want to offer the same gameplay, tweaked for home and on the go, so that you'll buy both, passing your data between the two, as two ways to play the same game. All of that is jeopardized if the 3DS version doesn't have all the characters. It would be awkward to do all those things working around a character that you can't use in certain scenarios. As soon as a 3DS version lacks a character, it becomes inferior, and you have less reason to buy it.

[sdp]

Well it makes sense that its inferior, its a portable version and it IS inferior, it just lacks anything to make it appealing. In fact that's the main reason I'm not getting the game, I just see it as a portable version of the Wii U game, and that just doesn't fly for me to double dip. In the 90s it was ok to have a crappy portable version of the console version, but even back then the original games were better, look at all the praise MMVgets over the other MegaMan GB titles, and MM is a bad example beecause even the other 4 mixed things up by mixing up robot masters.

A 3DS Smash game that played to the strengths of the system would've been a lot better like maybe a stage that took advantage of the 3D effect, exclusive characters and assist trophies from characters that are mainly known from portable games like say the moles from Molemania as assist trophies or the Chorus Kids. The 3DS version didn't need to have such a large character roster either.

But I guess it was Nintendo's idea and greed to have them released at the same time more than Sakurais. And it can't be good for sales, take a look at New Super Mario Bros. 2 and NSMBU, both original titles but released very close to each other and it only made the other title not sell as much since they were too close together in release date. I'm sure SSB for 3DS is a fine game since its a "not as good version" of the Wii U version, which that in itself is a great feat, but an original title would've been better, I wouldn't have minded if it launched a year later or if it had delayed the Wii U version. I know Nintendo wasn't in a position to delay the Wii U version but still this can't help sales for the Wii U if. Only Ice Climbers being cut isn't THAT big of a deal but it makes you wonder how many other sacrifices had to be made for the 3DS version to be the same.

[Peanut]

Kids...3DS version looks and plays incredible. It isn't a lesser game. Stop with that bullsh*t, because it isn't true. At all.

So, Ice Climbers got cut? Big f*cking deal. F-list Nintendo characters from a single (garbage) game. I'll take the insane list of newcomers over the cut trash all day everyday. Losing Ice Climbers and gaining an incredible portable version of Smash is also a trade I'd make again and again.

[The Stryker]

Will anyone seriously miss the Ice Climbers?

I mean honestly. Will you really sit there with the game in your hands and say to yourself: "Man.....If only the Ice Climbers were in it." ?

[sdp]

I didn't even want the Ice Climbers back in Brawl, they were interesting as a fun throwback to a game I didn't even know existed from the NES era, but I expected that spot to be filled by another "obscure" NES character and not for them to return. But I stopped minding their return when someone mentioned even though they only had one unsuccessful game back in the day they were just as much a Smash Bros character now than characters of their own game and somehow that made sense like Final Fight characters who are now more well known as SF characters or similarly King of Fighter characters or VS Capcom characters. But I'm also a fan of characters not being in every iteration and being cut and returning in another game a la King of Fighters. Makes their return more "interesting/surprising" if they were gone for a while. I mean how much bigger will the character screen have to get for a sequel if theres only a few cuts. As long as the original 6 remain in any sequel I'm happy. I'd add Pac-Man and Sonic in there too but I can see them being cut for being third party.

Anyway as far as Animal Crossing: New Leaf just wait for the sale this coming week it'll be 20 dollars most likely and yeah if its your first AC game you'll love it. It's a passive game and if you don't play obsessively you'll have months of fun with the game. It's a game meant to be played only a little bit every day and at different times of the day. My first Animal Crossing game was the Gamecube version and it is one of my favorite gaming experiences of my life. I kind of got bored with New Leaf and when I tried to come back to it my file was corrupted and the 100+ hours lost made me not want to come back to another AC game for a long time until there's something hugely different but since this is your first AC game you shouldn't have that problem. I'd say the first time experiencing AC is better than any Smash Bros game that could be made, but then again they're different genres.

[CyberCubed]

I played as the Ice Climbers a LOT in Melee and Brawl. I definitely feel them being axed is a mistake, they're also remembered more as Smash characters too since nobody cared about their obscure NES game from 25 years ago.

They've been in the series since 2001, they should return.

[Allio]

meh, never really cared for them