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Old 06-19-2016, 09:16 PM   #721
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It's totally fair to blame a sequel's opening on the previous movie. But if word of mouth does nothing, in the weeks after, I think it eventually falls on the sequel.
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Old 06-19-2016, 09:57 PM   #722
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Everything is to blame on the 2014 movie.
The 2014 flick is a big part of the reason.

But if the new film had the word of mouth of Civil War, Deadpool, or so forth...then it would be doing a lot better.

Some just think the Turtles 'look ugly' and don't want to watch them for 90 minutes to 2 hours (or at least to do that Again after the previous one).

Trailers weren't that interesting/appetizing to see the flick in theaters (or frankly, to ever see it).

And when word of mouth includes Bebop and Rocksteady checking out their dicks and letting out giant farts, or 'Shredder and the Turtles don't fight each other in the flick', or 'we know you like fighting like you've seen in Deadpool and Civil War, which came out this year...but yeah, this film doesn't have any of that kind of stuff'...then no, people aren't going to be 'flocking to see it'.
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Old 06-20-2016, 10:10 AM   #723
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TMNT 2 drops to 4th in the UK Box Office and the gross is up to $8m.

http://www.screendaily.com/news/the-...ontentID=40105
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Old 06-20-2016, 11:06 AM   #724
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The 2014 flick is a big part of the reason.

But if the new film had the word of mouth of Civil War, Deadpool, or so forth...then it would be doing a lot better.

Some just think the Turtles 'look ugly' and don't want to watch them for 90 minutes to 2 hours (or at least to do that Again after the previous one).

Trailers weren't that interesting/appetizing to see the flick in theaters (or frankly, to ever see it).
I thought it was kind of telling that almost nobody I know brought the movie up to me. Sure, some of my friends know that I hated the last one, but not close to all of them, and even then... almost total silence.

I just don't think most people were interested in what PD was selling. And maybe the domestic audience is finally getting tired of Michael Bay? China is still a question mark, but keep in mind that Transformers 4 performed well below the previous movies in North America. But it made almost 1/3 of its total box office take in China. Considering the logos attached to this movie, I'm sure Bay's very aware of this trend.
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Old 06-20-2016, 11:16 AM   #725
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Sounds like a whole lot of Blame Game™ going on and not a lot of admitting OotS is a steaming pile of Fred Wolf goodness with the feces level turned up to 9 on the dial.
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Old 06-20-2016, 04:52 PM   #726
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Well, we do have two polls here saying that 70% of us liked it. So we can't ALL blame the movie.
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Old 06-20-2016, 05:00 PM   #727
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Well, we do have two polls here saying that 70% of us liked it. So we can't ALL blame the movie.
But at the same time, weren't people back in 2014 defending that particular film (almost to the death) by saying it was fantastic, awesome, and spectacular? And if there was a poll, did it have a similar/high percentage?

But it seems that nowadays, the general consensus (even from some of those same folks on here) was that it was a pretty bad flick.
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Old 06-20-2016, 05:09 PM   #728
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Well, we do have two polls here saying that 70% of us liked it. So we can't ALL blame the movie.
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But at the same time, weren't people back in 2014 defending that particular film (almost to the death) by saying it was fantastic, awesome, and spectacular? And if there was a poll, did it have a similar/high percentage?
To get the true numbers, you have to adjust a certain % off due to a certain resilient faction that comes out of the woodwork every time one of these things drops...

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Old 06-20-2016, 05:58 PM   #729
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But at the same time, weren't people back in 2014 defending that particular film (almost to the death) by saying it was fantastic, awesome, and spectacular? And if there was a poll, did it have a similar/high percentage?

But it seems that nowadays, the general consensus (even from some of those same folks on here) was that it was a pretty bad flick.
I suppose we could dig it up. There were definitely polls. I really want to say they were 50-50 though.

EDIT:
This poll adds up to be about 68% positive. But with only 38 votes.
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=48868

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Old 06-20-2016, 08:04 PM   #730
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or 'Shredder and the Turtles don't fight each other in the flick', or 'we know you like fighting like you've seen in Deadpool and Civil War, which came out this year...but yeah, this film doesn't have any of that kind of stuff'...then no, people aren't going to be 'flocking to see it'.
This was the movie's biggest sin for me. The most "martial arts" moment in the entire film was when Leonardo was practicing as Raphael came up to confront him. In this day and age, it was an unacceptable mistake of sheer stupidity and cluelessness by the suits responsible for this waste of a film. It does my heart good to see it failing. I just badly want the idiots behind the film to understand WHY it failed. But sadly, I know they will just foolishly conclude that "Well, the trend of TMNT has clearly passed and there is no one left who likes them so the TMNT are a dead, unwanted franchise. What's the next trend we can exploit?!"
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Old 06-20-2016, 08:29 PM   #731
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Only semi-related, but the Turtles by Melo clothes line is totally tanking...

http://nypost.com/2016/06/09/kids-ar...clothing-line/
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Old 06-20-2016, 08:35 PM   #732
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Good. That was a bad idea too.

Let's just hope they don't mistake these flops as being fault of the brand itself.
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Old 06-20-2016, 08:46 PM   #733
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Good. That was a bad idea too.

Let's just hope they don't mistake these flops as being fault of the brand itself.
I'm very okay with the shameless, soulless, corporate-synergy cash-ins tanking. If they bring the whole franchise down with them, well, then Viacom clearly didn't research the mid-'90s section of this property's history when they bought it out.
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Old 06-20-2016, 09:51 PM   #734
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word has it that a sequel is actually in the works!

some of the test footage has leaked-







i kind of like what they've done with the choreography, i'm just not too sure about the leg-warmers though?
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Old 06-20-2016, 11:11 PM   #735
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word has it that a sequel is actually in the works!

some of the test footage has leaked-

http://i.makeagif.com/media/7-02-2015/YH7bLD.gif

https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-st...72109070-0.gif

http://i.makeagif.com/media/7-02-2015/0uPB_U.gif

i kind of like what they've done with the choreography, i'm just not too sure about the leg-warmers though?
I see they've improved the designs.
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Old 06-21-2016, 01:17 AM   #736
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Only semi-related, but the Turtles by Melo clothes line is totally tanking...

http://nypost.com/2016/06/09/kids-ar...clothing-line/
Was he the same basketball star who appeared in that Nick comic crossover? I haven't gotten that issue yet.
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Old 06-21-2016, 01:20 AM   #737
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Yeah, he got the film cameo, comic, & clothing line.

God knows why.
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Old 06-21-2016, 03:46 AM   #738
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Only semi-related, but the Turtles by Melo clothes line is totally tanking...

http://nypost.com/2016/06/09/kids-ar...clothing-line/
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Old 06-21-2016, 09:19 AM   #739
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TMNT 2 still hasn't broken 200 million, omfg.

This makes me happier beyond belief.
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Old 06-21-2016, 03:25 PM   #740
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Wasn't even sure where this Melo Turtles stuff was sold at until five minutes ago. Just looked at Macy's site...meh. The Turtles are a niche interest enough, making most of it also basketball themed (and putting his name pretty prominent on much of it) is super niche. Like the Turtles and basketball AND this guy? Well you're in luck! For most everyone else in the world... eh.

This is also the one that was only doing kids stuff, wasn't it. Also a bad move.

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