Batman Begins - Page 4

*raphael_is_cool* · 06-16-2005, 12:34 PM

I've read that Mark Hamill wants to play The Joker in the sequel. Anyone think that's a good idea? Considering he's done voice-acting for the character already.

Considering his performance in Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back I think he coud ham it up in an Ian McDarmid as Palpatine way.

I am going to see this film tomorrow, during the day. I don't care if none of my friends are free.

~~Leo656~~ · 06-16-2005, 03:50 PM

Best. Batman. EVER.

That's all anyone needs to know. All those reviews calling it "movie of the year" are dead-on, I can't think of a single movie I've seen in the last five years that was better. Not Spider-Man/Spider-Man 2, not either X-Men flick, not Star Wars, not ANYthing. And it goes beyond comic/sci-fi movies, it's just a great, GREAT frigging movie period. I had high hopes for this one, but all I expected was for it to be a worthy successor to the first Tim Burton Batman flick.

Imagine my surprise when "Batman Begins" took the Burton Batman, which I have always loved, and made it look as silly and pointless by comparison to the extent that Burton's "Batman" made the Adam West Bats look like unwatchable crap. I love the Burton flick, but I can no longer ever watch it with the same appreciation, ever, ever again, because Batman begins does so much right that every single other Batman flick did wrong. The origin, the casting, the villains, the acting, every single thing was just what it needed to be.

I went to see it with my girlfriend last night, and she was mesmerized throughout the whole thing. At the end, she said, "Motherf****er, that was the BEST f***ing movie I have EVER f***ing seen!" And we've seen just about everything. The fact that the entire audience in our theatre gave the flick a standing ovation at the end seems to say that some people agreed with her. I dunno about "best ever", but definitely the best Batman movie ever, best comic book movie ever, and definitely a new standard in comic book movies. Fantastic Four, X3, and everything else comic-related is gonna need to do a lot to not look silly compared to this flick. A masterpiece, plain and simple.

As for the Burton flick... I'unno, man, it did kick ass for its time, but just to deny oneself an experience to see a damn awesome movie just b/c they're a mark for a certain director is downright shortsighted and closed-minded. Burton's a good director, but he aint great. He's more a gimmick than a director; his movies get huge hype based solely on the fact that he's directing them, whether they're good or not. He definitely has way more good flicks than bad, but he's no genius by any stretch. Go read up on some of his ideas for "Superman" back in the day, for example, and you'll start to wonder if his brain even receives adequate oxygen.

Bottom line: "Batman Begins" takes Burton's flick and out-"darks" it, has better acting, a real storyline, better effects, better costumes, more action, and most important, a heart and soul to it that makes you give a rats ass about the characters you're watching. Not a great "comic book" movie. great f*cking movie. Period.

*Raven* · 06-16-2005, 03:54 PM

I loved all the little easter eggs, like zsacs, who shows up a few times.
I really cared for Thomas wayne in this movie, they actually gave him a personality, this movie made me beleive that batman could really happen.

~~Leo656~~ · 06-16-2005, 04:00 PM

Oh, dude, I almost spooged when I heard the name "Zsasz", I'm like "WHAT?" And then when they showed him he actually had all the little slash scars all over his body! There was so much "inside" stuff, like Flass (Gordon's partner in "Year One") and Zsasz, any hardcore Batman fan oughta be having a blast with this flick.

**ThirdMarioBro** · 06-16-2005, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leo656

Bottom line: "Batman Begins" takes Burton's flick and out-"darks" it, has better acting, a real storyline, better effects, better costumes, more action, and most important, a heart and soul to it that makes you give a rats ass about the characters you're watching. Not a great "comic book" movie. great f*cking movie. Period.

Okay, I'm going to see it now since everyone loves it so much. Star Wars & Batman in one month's time period....nice combo

*DrSpengler* · 06-16-2005, 08:45 PM

God, that was a damn good movie. Puts Burton's mediocre picture to shame.

Save for Alfred's Australian accent, they got everything right. Even the stuff from the comic I never liked,

Spoiler:

were handled excellently.

Esily the best movie I've seen all year, if not the only GOOD movie I've seen all year.

*Dr. Doom* · 06-16-2005, 08:49 PM

Australian..?

That was Cockney if I've ever heard it.

*Voltron* · 06-16-2005, 10:43 PM

Who Cares!!!?? That was exquisite in every sense of the Word!!

*The Stryker* · 06-16-2005, 11:53 PM

Dammit the wait is KILLING ME!!!!

and this Combo of Movies is Awesome! First Star wars Now Batman and Land of the Dead on the 24th!

*damnhooligan* · 06-17-2005, 12:45 AM

Saw it yesterday. And yes, it was quite awesome. It was filled to the brim with Brits with American accents too, thanks to Christopher Nolan. Bale and Oldman are masters at accents, but Wilkinson (Falcone), Roache (Thomas Wayne), Murphy (Crane/Scarecrow) and a bunch of others surprised me.

I really like how the movie didn't feel formulaic in the sense that most blockbusters of this size do. And nor did the "And so this is how Batman got [this]" feel strained or forced at any point. It all just seemed flawless and believable.

*The Stryker* · 06-17-2005, 01:37 AM

I've heard alot of Criticisms on the Editing of the flick itself. any kind of thought on that?

*raphael_is_cool* · 06-17-2005, 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrSpengler

Save for Alfred's Australian accent

Haha. Sure, I think Michael Caine learned his cockney accent from Dick Van Dyke...

How can you say Michael Caine has a terrible Australian accent?

When I see it, as an Englishman, I'll comment on it.

Rikirk · 06-17-2005, 03:52 AM

Three words...

In-Freakin-Credible...

In other words, a damn great movie. Thats all I can say really. Just a great movie.

*DrSpengler* · 06-17-2005, 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raphael_is_cool

Haha. Sure, I think Michael Caine learned his cockney accent from Dick Van Dyke...

How can you say Michael Caine has a terrible Australian accent?

When I see it, as an Englishman, I'll comment on it.

Sounded Australian to me, but yeah...it did resemble Dick Van Dyke's "accent" from Mary Poppins. Weird.

~~BartAllen~~ · 06-17-2005, 07:52 AM

ive seen the movie twice. man. what an awesome movie. honestly. jim gordan was my favorite character in the movie. he even criticised batman at the end, wont tell you why though.

*DrSpengler* · 06-17-2005, 08:10 AM

That's another thing I was happy to see, Gordon getting some screen time and character developement. In the original movies he was a total background character, I barely even noticed him.

*Dr. Doom* · 06-17-2005, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raphael_is_cool

Haha. Sure, I think Michael Caine learned his cockney accent from Dick Van Dyke...

Michael Caine IS cockney.

*Brodie* · 06-17-2005, 10:56 AM

Speaking of ****, did I mention how much I jizzed when I saw this flick?

*Spitfire* · 06-17-2005, 12:14 PM

I liked this movie alot ^_^ The Scarecrow was awesome....too bad he was such a wuss >_< Some people say it was better then Spider-man 2 but Im a Spider-man fanboy so I disadgree. Though I think it was better then Spider-man 1

EDIT: Sorry, Spitfire. I had to edit your post a bit. You put a major spoiler in there.

~ Ryo

*Brodie* · 06-17-2005, 12:52 PM

Oh come on, I love the SPidey Comics, I always have, but the movies suck, and suck pretty hardcore compared to this.

06-16-2005, 03:54 PM	#63
Raven follower of Jesus Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,212	I loved all the little easter eggs, like zsacs, who shows up a few times. I really cared for Thomas wayne in this movie, they actually gave him a personality, this movie made me beleive that batman could really happen. __________________ TMNT Future Despair Deviant Offical Ultimate Ninja Turtles Site!

06-16-2005, 08:45 PM	#66
DrSpengler Foot Elite Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 4,842	God, that was a damn good movie. Puts Burton's mediocre picture to shame. Save for Alfred's Australian accent, they got everything right. Even the stuff from the comic I never liked, Spoiler: like Joe Chill were handled excellently. Esily the best movie I've seen all year, if not the only GOOD movie I've seen all year.

06-16-2005, 08:49 PM	#67
Dr. Doom Allons-y! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Castle Doom Posts: 4,535	Australian..? That was Cockney if I've ever heard it. __________________ I love you, Pickle.

06-16-2005, 10:43 PM	#68
Voltron Handsomest Boy in School Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The Realm of SJW Posts: 4,642	Who Cares!!!?? That was exquisite in every sense of the Word!! __________________ I AM FOR ACTUAL! . . . and the White Savior. . . and the Right Hand of God. . .

06-16-2005, 11:53 PM	#69
The Stryker Stupid Rich Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Room 237 Posts: 11,152	Dammit the wait is KILLING ME!!!! and this Combo of Movies is Awesome! First Star wars Now Batman and Land of the Dead on the 24th! __________________ @~<3 Mom~@

06-16-2005, 12:34 PM	#61
raphael_is_cool Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: England Posts: 2,151	I've read that Mark Hamill wants to play The Joker in the sequel. Anyone think that's a good idea? Considering he's done voice-acting for the character already. Considering his performance in Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back I think he coud ham it up in an Ian McDarmid as Palpatine way. I am going to see this film tomorrow, during the day. I don't care if none of my friends are free.

06-16-2005, 03:50 PM	#62
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Best. Batman. EVER. That's all anyone needs to know. All those reviews calling it "movie of the year" are dead-on, I can't think of a single movie I've seen in the last five years that was better. Not Spider-Man/Spider-Man 2, not either X-Men flick, not Star Wars, not ANYthing. And it goes beyond comic/sci-fi movies, it's just a great, GREAT frigging movie period. I had high hopes for this one, but all I expected was for it to be a worthy successor to the first Tim Burton Batman flick. Imagine my surprise when "Batman Begins" took the Burton Batman, which I have always loved, and made it look as silly and pointless by comparison to the extent that Burton's "Batman" made the Adam West Bats look like unwatchable crap. I love the Burton flick, but I can no longer ever watch it with the same appreciation, ever, ever again, because Batman begins does so much right that every single other Batman flick did wrong. The origin, the casting, the villains, the acting, every single thing was just what it needed to be. I went to see it with my girlfriend last night, and she was mesmerized throughout the whole thing. At the end, she said, "Motherf**er, that was the BEST fing movie I have EVER f*ing seen!" And we've seen just about everything. The fact that the entire audience in our theatre gave the flick a standing ovation at the end seems to say that some people agreed with her. I dunno about "best ever", but definitely the best Batman movie ever, best comic book movie ever, and definitely a new standard in comic book movies. Fantastic Four, X3, and everything else comic-related is gonna need to do a lot to not look silly compared to this flick. A masterpiece, plain and simple. As for the Burton flick... I'unno, man, it did kick ass for its time, but just to deny oneself an experience to see a damn awesome movie just b/c they're a mark for a certain director is downright shortsighted and closed-minded. Burton's a good director, but he aint great. He's more a gimmick than a director; his movies get huge hype based solely on the fact that he's directing them, whether they're good or not. He definitely has way more good flicks than bad, but he's no genius by any stretch. Go read up on some of his ideas for "Superman" back in the day, for example, and you'll start to wonder if his brain even receives adequate oxygen. Bottom line: "Batman Begins" takes Burton's flick and out-"darks" it, has better acting, a real storyline, better effects, better costumes, more action, and most important, a heart and soul to it that makes you give a rats ass about the characters you're watching. Not a great "comic book" movie. great fcking movie. Period.

06-16-2005, 04:00 PM	#64
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Oh, dude, I almost spooged when I heard the name "Zsasz", I'm like "WHAT?" And then when they showed him he actually had all the little slash scars all over his body! There was so much "inside" stuff, like Flass (Gordon's partner in "Year One") and Zsasz, any hardcore Batman fan oughta be having a blast with this flick.

06-17-2005, 12:45 AM	#70
damnhooligan Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Dorksville, USA Posts: 1,745	Saw it yesterday. And yes, it was quite awesome. It was filled to the brim with Brits with American accents too, thanks to Christopher Nolan. Bale and Oldman are masters at accents, but Wilkinson (Falcone), Roache (Thomas Wayne), Murphy (Crane/Scarecrow) and a bunch of others surprised me. I really like how the movie didn't feel formulaic in the sense that most blockbusters of this size do. And nor did the "And so this is how Batman got [this]" feel strained or forced at any point. It all just seemed flawless and believable. __________________

06-17-2005, 01:37 AM	#71
The Stryker Stupid Rich Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Room 237 Posts: 11,152	I've heard alot of Criticisms on the Editing of the flick itself. any kind of thought on that? __________________ @~<3 Mom~@

06-17-2005, 03:52 AM	#73
Rikirk Foot Soldier Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 208	Three words... In-Freakin-Credible... In other words, a damn great movie. Thats all I can say really. Just a great movie. __________________ "Did you say mattress?...I did ask you not to, now I have to get into the fish tank and sing. "Yes, yes I admit I tuned you out but in my defense its because I already figured out that youre stupid.'---Dr Rodney McKay - Stargate: Atlantis

06-17-2005, 07:52 AM	#75
~~BartAllen~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 922	ive seen the movie twice. man. what an awesome movie. honestly. jim gordan was my favorite character in the movie. he even criticised batman at the end, wont tell you why though.

06-17-2005, 08:10 AM	#76
DrSpengler Foot Elite Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 4,842	That's another thing I was happy to see, Gordon getting some screen time and character developement. In the original movies he was a total background character, I barely even noticed him.

06-17-2005, 10:56 AM	#78
Brodie Certified Teacher Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bizarro Metropolis Posts: 6,495	Speaking of ****, did I mention how much I jizzed when I saw this flick? __________________ Stupendous Monster

06-17-2005, 12:14 PM	#79
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	I liked this movie alot ^_^ The Scarecrow was awesome....too bad he was such a wuss >_< Some people say it was better then Spider-man 2 but Im a Spider-man fanboy so I disadgree. Though I think it was better then Spider-man 1 EDIT: Sorry, Spitfire. I had to edit your post a bit. You put a major spoiler in there. ~ Ryo __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

06-17-2005, 12:52 PM	#80
Brodie Certified Teacher Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bizarro Metropolis Posts: 6,495	Oh come on, I love the SPidey Comics, I always have, but the movies suck, and suck pretty hardcore compared to this. __________________ Stupendous Monster