NO-bad review from hollywood reporter

[Peanut]

Originally Posted by ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael

Oh dude get off your ****ing high horse. I got no problem with people not liking the movie, but I got a problem with the ignorance coming from them. Especially that last guy who completely missed the point. And couldn't even spell Raph's name right.

My point has been proven.

[ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael]

Originally Posted by Peanut

My point has been proven.

You proved nothing.

[Peanut]

Originally Posted by ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael

You proved nothing.

You're right. You did it for me.

[ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael]

Originally Posted by Peanut

You're right. You did it for me.

I think I have an idea of why Logic Donny hates you.

[愛]

This movie is going to be entertaining. Nothing else. No deep plot, no detailed look into the disturbed mind of Raphael. No fanservice whatsoever. It'll be like the other three movies, that were produced based on the fun-loving aura of the TV show. It's supposed to be fun, not deep. It's the fans who made it that way. The comics, I do know, had some interesting takes on the turtles, but honestly...the TV show was better, and it should've stayed as that kind of humor.

[Peanut]

Originally Posted by ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael

I think I have an idea of why Logic Donny hates you.

Because I speak the truth? Yeah, you're probably right.

[Kendamu]

[QUOTE=sgtfbomb;478704]

Originally Posted by Goongasnootch

I'm not worried about it. For every single douchebag reviewer who can't remember anything beyond Bebop or Vanilla Ice there's probably a buttload of kids who have the exact opposite opinion. So Hollywood Reporter can go rot in Hell for not taking about 20 minutes to find an interview with Kevin or look at a short synopsis of the previous TMNT movies to get an idea of where this is going.[/QUOTE]

Now thats not right..it's only the critics job to watch the movie and review, he doesnt have to research it or it's creators. TMNT isn't for everyone, nor is any film. Continuing to bash critics for hating something you like gets to be pretty hypocritical when you know that if this guy gave a good review, you'd be praising it, whether he did his research or not, which is not his job.

Well, sorry you don't like my outlook on things but I see this as much a comic book movie as Spider-Man or 300. Every review I've seen of comic movies that I actually respect, whether the reviewer liked the movie or not, tends to at least make proper reference to previous movie outings of the franchise (if there is a previous outing) or a small look the source material for the franchise itself (namely the comics).

However, just about every bad review I've seen so far comes from someone who can't tell you which movie Vanilla Ice was in or why Krang, Bebop and Rocksteady, and the Technodrome aren't going to be in this new one. At least when reviews of Spider-Man had any complaining about Green Goblin's costume, the organic web shooters, or how Mary Jane Watson fits into the story they complained because they wanted to see it stick closer to the source material. When sequels came along, bad reviews at least took a look at what happened previously so they weren't completely lost.

I haven't seen the Rocky movies in a really long time. However, if I were going to do a review of Rocky Balboa I'd at least take a look at the synopsis of what happened in the previous Rocky movies if I didn't have the time to watch them all beforehand so I'd know the history of what I was getting ready to take a look at.

We know that little kids who are going to see this probably dont read movie reviews and bad reviews aren't going to affect them at all. The movie Hook isn't regarded as one of Spielberg's better movies in terms of reviews and stuff but as a kid I really liked the movie and had no clue that it was not doig well review-wise. But we already know that TMNT was a movie made not only for the kids but longtime fans as well. It's the longtime fans that are probably going to see these reviews so, for the sake of these older fans that read the reviews the reviewer should at least know what is supposed to make it so good for those longtime fans. How would they do that? By at least reading this, this, and unfortunately (IMO) this if not take the time to watch the movies. Otherwise the reviewer doesn't really know what he's looking at.

At least when Angry Video Game Nerd gave TMNT 3 a really bad review (Part 1, Part 2, may be NSFW due to language) he knew where the previous two and the cartoon series were coming from before going into TMNT 3 and makes sure to explain that so the viewers are up-to-speed, too. I don't literally agree with him on everything but I find it to be a damn good reivew... especially for a guy who doesn't even get paid to watch movies and his Internet fame comes from reviewing video games nobody even really plays anymore.

So, what's really not right after looking at the above TMNT 3 review is someone who gets paid to talk out of his ass about something he really doesn't know about whether he likes it or not.

[VaughnMichael]

Originally Posted by Peanut

No, it's true. Ninja Turtles movies have always been popcorn flicks. They're not made to make you think, or make you come to some sudden revelation. They're made for you to have fun, laugh and get a kick out of some cool action. That's it.

The true ignorance comes from all the people here who can't seem to accept that different people have different opinions. You all need to take a step back and realize that we are the hardcore fan base, most of you are going to defend this movie to the bitter end, even if it's the worst piece of TMNT related entertainment to ever be released. It's their job to go in and review a movie on their terms. You all act like they have some personal vendetta against the franchise, or they're just stupid people. The guy doesn't get the point of the film? Wha? Isn't the point of the film to entertain, one way or the other?

You're all going into this movie with a heavy heavy bias, these people are just going into it as a person who watches and reviews movies. You all need to stop coming up with excuses to protect a movie that most of us haven't even seen yet.

dude I've read the entire story I'm fine with what goes on for it and as I said I agreed with a few things he said from the things I've seen.
He is talking about tmnt as a whole not just the movies thats's what was rude. If he said only the cartoon and movie were silly then yes I would agree on that even the 2k3 toon has goofie bits. And I'm quite fine with that but tmnt does have some serious momements. But like I always say I'm quite happy with a fine mix of silly and serious I think to much of either is bad.
Me personally I'm fine with others opinions of crap like I said as long as they don't start insulting one another to get a point across because it's really not needed.
And boy oh boy can anyone else feel that heat coming on must be a flame war. *has a bucket handy* oh I'm sure a mod has a lock handy as well lol

[ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael]

Originally Posted by Peanut

Because I speak the truth? Yeah, you're probably right.

No, becuase your as big a douche as those guys on imdb

[VaughnMichael]

Originally Posted by ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael

No, becuase your as big a douche as those guys on imdb

thanks for ignoring everything I said before. you guys *shakes finger*

[Peanut]

Originally Posted by ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael

No, becuase your as big a douche as those guys on imdb

Right. What exactly did I say that was so horrible?

And Putrescent, I wasn't directing that entire thing on you, dude. Sorry if it seemed that way.

[ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael]

Originally Posted by Peanut

Right. What exactly did I say that was so horrible?

And Putrescent, I wasn't directing that entire thing on you, dude. Sorry if it seemed that way.

If you can't see it, you've proven my point.

[Peanut]

Originally Posted by ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael

If you can't see it, you've proven my point.

Nice try. You're just making yourself look worse. Dodging and avoiding your own comments, while at the same time trying to use a previous one as a shield, is a clear sign of defeat.

[Rooish]

That review says :

Spoiler:

"The entire movie is wasted pursuing Leonardo’s eventual rise as an uber-leader, and in the end it never happens. At some point the team stops bickering and starts beating things up together, but there’s never that moment where Leonardo takes charge and shows off his snazzy new leadership skills."

That is a damn good point that bothered me, too, when I read the novelization.

Spoiler:

All that time building up Leo, and then he's captured and Raph plays leader?

Edit: And TMTWBR, Peanut, stop wasting board space, will ya guys? Play nice.

[ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael]

Originally Posted by Peanut

Nice try. You're just making yourself look worse. Dodging and avoiding your own comments, while at the same time trying to use a previous one as a shield, is a clear sign of defeat.

Isn't that exactly what you were doing?

Nice attempt there Nut. Maybe next time you won;t fail so hard

Spoiler:

All that time building up Leo, and then he's captured and Raph plays leader?

Spoiler:

Judging by the clips and everything I read. He spent a year training physically, but not doing anyhting to buil his relationship with his brothers. That seems to be the real point, not him becoming the ultimate warrior.

[Peanut]

Originally Posted by ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael

Isn't that exactly what you were doing?

Nice attempt there Nut. Maybe next time you won;t fail so hard

Oh boy. I'm just going to leave this as it is. Nothing I can say could make you look any worse.

And I'm sorry, Rooish. Didn't mean to get into an argument here. I just don't take kindly to be called a douche for no reason.

[Raph'N'Roll]

I thought you had a fair point Peanut.
The main problem with the movie is that no explanation is offered to casual or non TMNT fans as to how these monsters ended up in New York, or as to who Karai is.
So I can understand why some reviews are going to be fairly harsh, you can't just stick something in a story with no explanation and expect the audience just too except it.
Probably not the best example, but imagine watching a movie were half way through the main Human character wakes up with a Cadbury's Cream Egg for a head, with no reason given as to why this has happened, you'd be a bit miffed and frustrated, well and probably freaked out lol!

Anyway the monsters just appear and start causing havoc, with the biggest of the lot chasing the Cowabunga Carl van through the streets destroying buildings, and yet strangely failing to alert the authorities.
So there are some pretty annoying plot holes that hamper ones enjoyment, as a fan I liked it but I wasn't fully satisfied.
The Raph VS Leo fight is the best action scene in the movie, Ninja VS Ninja works far better than monster Vs Ninja, oh and if you're hoping for a decent fight between the Turtles and The Foot,

Spoiler:

well all you get is pretty much what you've seen in that 1 minute uninterrupted clip.

[Peanut]

Originally Posted by RAPH 'N' ROLL

I think you have a fair point Peanut.

oh and if you're hoping for a decent fight between the Turtles and The Foot,

Spoiler:

well all you get is pretty much what you've seen in that 1 minute uninterrupted clip.

Really, my point was just that we all need to calm down with the accusatory tones. These guys are just reviewing what they saw. We can't hold it against them that they're not all huge TMNT fans like we are, right?

And you've got to be kidding about that last part...right? PLEASE!?

[ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael]

Originally Posted by Peanut

Oh boy. I'm just going to leave this as it is. Nothing I can say could make you look any worse.

And I'm sorry, Rooish. Didn't mean to get into an argument here. I just don't take kindly to be called a douche for no reason.

And I don't take kindly to douches who don't even know they are douches.

**** this ****.

[Rooish]

Originally Posted by Peanut

And I'm sorry, Rooish. Didn't mean to get into an argument here. I just don't take kindly to be called a douche for no reason.

Understandable. I just don't want board members to hate each other, although I haven't been on this board long enough to witness a major fight, while I'm sure you both have. You guys seem to be winking a lot in your last few comments, though, so maybe it's cooling down a bit?

Edit: Or not.