Would you be interested in helping in an Image Vol. 3 conclusion?

[Andrew NDB]

First, a "rough pencils" look at what Frank Fosco's cover for an issue of an Image TMNT conclusion.



And now the cover with his final inks:



And the final colored version with Sabacooza's colors:



Details as they become available. Going through many channels.

If this happens, Gary Carlson would write it (possibly with my aid, possibly without), Frank Fosco would illustrate it, and Courtland Brugger would color it (the covers). A.C. Farley is doing a two-page coda and Kevin Eastman is inking what may be a wraparound cover for it or possibly just some kick-ass promotional art.

#24 reviews here:
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=33980

[Roseangelo]

Can't help you with art (as in, you really, really don't want me to help), but I think it's awesome that this is moving forward and I look forward to what comes of everyone's efforts!!

[***First of Two Latin Kings***]

Is this legal?

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Oroku_CJJ

Is this legal?

It isn't being published or distributed. It's essentially the same if I made a faux X-Men comic and printed it on my printer and hung it on my mantle.

If someone wants to see what we come up with? There's no charge. This isn't for profit. I'm doing this out of pocket.

[Archon_Turtle]

Originally Posted by Oroku_CJJ

Is this legal?

people also need to understand the difference between what a right holder can do, and what they will do. I have been working with Disney lawyers long enough to tell you that a company will only take action when something is:

A) SEVERELY effecting the brand
B) Cutting into their profits (we are talking hundreds of thousands, not hundreds)
C) A product or method that they can take and make a profit with

In this case, the Image turtles is a sect of the TMNT that nick has no interest in (and probably no knowledge of). The product that Andrew would be producing is not for sale or trade, so he is not making any money, and not cutting into profit. Lastly, the content that Andrew dreamed up would legally be owned by him (not the characters, but the story, events, etc.) So while Nick could legally control the distribution of said product if they so chose, that could NOT take that product or the idea and sell it themselves without legal recourse from Andrew.

All this doesnt even take into consideration the INSANE amount of money and manpower it would cost them to take Andrew to court in the first place. So in the VERY VERY VERY worst case scenario, Nick would send Andrew a Cease and Desist order, at which point Andrew would simply stop manufacturing the book. No harm no foul.

99.99999% of the time the owner of an IP will not persue works of "fan fiction", which this would technically be considered, because not only is it costly, but it is also counterproductive as it serves only to tarnish their reputation in the eyes of the fanbase.

[DK2]

This is cool. At least a script from Gary himself makes it really more authentic. But as a fan thing you won't/can't be selling it right? Or only charge for the costs of making it? I'd love to draw this but I too suck at backgrounds. Although if the backgrounds were a minimum or didn't need to look so good I might be able to draw it. But I've never even committed to drawing two comic books worth of pages. I always doodled alot in Junior & High school. My style on the turtles is roughly an Eastman & Laird style look. Maybe even early Jim Lawson. But I don't know about my time for this. Try to fit this in around work would be hard. If the timeframe was infinite and a thorough script in details, may be possible (I may need things explained to me). But I could be just too enthusiastic right now and babbling. Something I'll think about. You know what would cap this off if Frank Fosco could at least draw the covers at no fee. I'm assuming a fee could be why he's not involved or he's too busy. Which either way, is understandable.
Besides this, what happened to the TMNT fan art book from gogreenmachine.org? Its seems silent now after the TMNT/Nicko buyout. I wanted to put in art for this too.

[Powder]

I am going to send you drawings I made of the image turtles, tell me if theyre sufficient because Id love to do work on this project. I could do backgrounds too here & there. Either way this is a great concept & I hope all bodes well.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Powder

I am going to send you drawings I made of the image turtles, tell me if theyre sufficient because Id love to do work on this project.

Send'em over!

[***First of Two Latin Kings***]

You really think 100 copies will be sufficient though? There's more of us than that.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by DK2

This is cool. At least a script from Gary himself makes it really more authentic.

Not a script from him. Just help, overseeing, advice, ideas.

But as a fan thing you won't/can't be selling it right?

Right.

Or only charge for the costs of making it?

Legally can't even charge for that. Strictly the raw shipping. This is a labor of love.

You know what would cap this off if Frank Fosco could at least draw the covers at no fee.

I'm happy to pay him a nominal fee. I'm trying to track him down. If you know something I don't or want to play cyber sleuth, hey, let me know.

[CyberCubed]

From the first page:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Ross May is aboard in a similar role as Gary's. A big chunk of this is coming from his material and his help has been as invaluable as it has been brilliant.

Will Tupper is contributing his script for an unpublished Michelangelo backup that was originally going to appear in Tales of the TMNT.

^ Are these two things still happening, or has the project been re-tooled since then?

When this was more of a fan-project I noticed you had numerous fans contributing some material, but now that this is more official, will any of that still be part of it?

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

will any of that still be part of it?

We've touched on this already.

If it goes through official channels (be it at Image or somewhere else), probably the only person for sure who would still "have a job" on this other than Frank Fosco, Gary Carlson, Kevin Eastman, and A.C. Farley is Sabacooza.

[Billbeaux]

This has probably also been touched on, but in case it hasn't it bears asking: if the project goes official, will they still make it a point to bridge the conclusion with the Mirage continuity, as was originally planned?

[Powder]

Originally Posted by Billbeaux

This has probably also been touched on, but in case it hasn't it bears asking: if the project goes official, will they still make it a point to bridge the conclusion with the Mirage continuity, as was originally planned?

Regardless of the means through which it is published, yes.

[***First of Two Latin Kings***]

Any idea when the first book will hit stores?

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Billbeaux

This has probably also been touched on, but in case it hasn't it bears asking: if the project goes official, will they still make it a point to bridge the conclusion with the Mirage continuity, as was originally planned?

As Powder said, yeah. Both Frank and Gary have stated independantly of anything I've written that that would be their wish as well.