Official Episode Discussion: S2 #4 "Mutagen Man Unleashed" - Page 4

*Papenbrook* · 11-09-2013, 06:07 PM

You know, with Tim chasing to get April, it makes me wonder if Tim had any friends in his childhood. This is just a guess.

I mean... Tim seemed so determined to make April his friend, it looked like he was going to go insane. I know it's probably because of his memory loss, but still, it can be really sad if you think deeply about it.

*Coola Yagami* · 11-09-2013, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Purple Kraken

You know, with Tim chasing to get April, it makes me wonder if Tim had any friends in his childhood. This is just a guess.

I mean... Tim seemed so determined to make April his friend, it looked like he was going to go insane. I know it's probably because of his memory loss, but still, it can be really sad if you think deeply about it.

Yeah... kinda doubt it... I mean what kinda loser is gonna have much friends if he runs around dressed like a ninja turtle all the time... oh wait...

AdamWarlock87 · 11-09-2013, 06:28 PM

I'm pretty sure that it was Irma who got hit in the face with the puck. She looked just like the girl on Aprils cell phone.

*BabyTurtles* · 11-09-2013, 06:29 PM

that was awesome *_*

sorry but I'm not on the poor Timothy bandwagon.

he was a jerk....he got himself into this whole mess and tries to hurt the people that are trying to help him!? fine....sure Mikey and Raph kinda don't like him..but STILL! hurting Donnie!? and trying to get after April.......FOR HIMSELF!?
uncool....

I'm on Mikey and Raph's side...I would have kicked his butt on first sight.

*TurtleTitan97* · 11-09-2013, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

sorry but I'm not on the poor Timothy bandwagon.

he was a jerk....he got himself into this whole mess and tries to hurt the people that are trying to help him!? fine....sure Mikey and Raph kinda don't like him..but STILL! hurting Donnie!? and trying to get after April.......FOR HIMSELF!?
uncool....

I'm on Mikey and Raph's side...I would have kicked his butt on first sight.

Aw c'mon, it's not his fault. That mutagen seriously jacked him up.

*BabyTurtles* · 11-09-2013, 06:36 PM

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Aw c'mon, it's not his fault. That mutagen seriously jacked him up.

yea...the mutagen he chose to take TWICE!!

sorry...I felt bad for him when he naively doused mutagen on himself the first time...but when he goes around taking more of it.....and then turns around and back stabs the guy helping him....that's when I draw the pity line.

*Donatello19* · 11-09-2013, 06:43 PM

I agree with some of you who said that April is starting to get annoying. I LOVE the fact that she's mad, but it's like she has a pure hatred for the turtles now, even after they saved her numerous times, gave her a temporary home, and trained her. I just think they should've handled it a better way when she was watching the fight...like, lets say MM had Don pinned and was about to drip acid all over him, and then you see her fan fly in and hit MM, freeing Don. The turtles turn to April, but she has a confused expression on her face, and runs. Maybe that would work? IDK.

What are you guys talking about with ICK? I remember the cat getting hit with the acid, but why would that be ICK?

*BabyTurtles* · 11-09-2013, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Donatello19

I agree with some of you who said that April is starting to get annoying. I LOVE the fact that she's mad, but it's like she has a pure hatred for the turtles now, even after they saved her numerous times, gave her a temporary home, and trained her. I just think they should've handled it a better way when she was watching the fight...like, lets say MM had Don pinned and was about to drip acid all over him, and then you see her fan fly in and hit MM, freeing Don. The turtles turn to April, but she has a confused expression on her face, and runs. Maybe that would work? IDK.

What are you guys talking about with ICK? I remember the cat getting hit with the acid, but why would that be ICK?

I actually thought that was gonna happen XD but IDK....we'll see how she gets back.

*TurtleTitan97* · 11-09-2013, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

yea...the mutagen he chose to take TWICE!!

sorry...I felt bad for him when he naively doused mutagen on himself the first time...but when he goes around taking more of it.....and then turns around and back stabs the guy helping him....that's when I draw the pity line.

Well, actually I was referring to when he was mutated and how it literally jacked him. The Timothy we knew would never outright attack the turtles. Even they treated him like dirt he still looked up to them as heroes.

Unfortunately, it looks as though what Leo said maybe right: "Whatever part of Timothy that was inside that thing, it's gone." So it's not really Tim fault because he's not in control of himself.

Utromshredderhater · 11-09-2013, 06:52 PM

There's still hope Donnie

*BabyTurtles* · 11-09-2013, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97

Well, actually I was referring to when he was mutated and how it literally jacked him. The Timothy we knew would never outright attack the turtles. Even they treated him like dirt he still looked up to them as heroes.

Unfortunately, it looks as though what Leo said maybe right: "Whatever part of Timothy that was inside that thing, it's gone." So it's not really Tim fault because he's not in control of himself.

I guess you're right.

I never hated Timothy when he first started, but the mutagen also seems to have the power of turning people into jerks.

all of this could have been avoided if Tim would have just listened....

*Papenbrook* · 11-09-2013, 07:06 PM

Wow, it seems like everyone is just about mixed on the whole Mutagen Man/Timothy plot line.

In my opinion, I sympathise with Timothy, but at the same time, I don't like his Mutagen Man persona. I mean, I can understand why Tim would be upset at the turtles. They basically treated him like he was a monster/wimp, with the latter being when he was still human. However, that gives him no reason to start attacking the very people who tried to help him.

By the way, I think Mutagen Man is a hypocrite. In one scene, he tells the turtles to leave him alone, but in the past, he wouldn't leave the turtles alone. I can't understand that.

Michelangelo · 11-09-2013, 07:06 PM

I'd say he's more like Dr Venkman.
He's after the girl and has all the confidence in himself.
The ego is definitely there, but there seems to be genuiness/honesty about his character that April might actually go for.
Very cool that his hockey skills are his special ability and he can really pull off some awesome moves.
Looking forward to the new Playmates toy figure of him.

Michelangelo · 11-09-2013, 07:16 PM

Mutagen man seems like Frankenstein's monster, and in that sense he may be very misunderstood. However unlike Dr Frankenstein, Donny is trying restore him not create a monster. But perhaps in the process things will turn out just like the story of Frankenstein and Timothy will end up being the misunderstood victim.
Does anyone want to see the pulveriser actually return?

*Papenbrook* · 11-09-2013, 07:19 PM

Excuse me, but you're not supposed to have two posts in a row.

*BabyTurtles* · 11-09-2013, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Michelangelo

Mutagen man seems like Frankenstein's monster, and in that sense he may be very misunderstood. However unlike Dr Frankenstein, Donny is trying restore him not create a monster. But perhaps in the process things will turn out just like the story of Frankenstein and Timothy will end up being the misunderstood victim.
Does anyone want to see the pulveriser actually return?

as in become human again? sure I wouldn't want to be a glob forever XD

he's the key to getting the cure for mutagen right? (is he...I can't remember why Don needed him)

*Papenbrook* · 11-09-2013, 07:26 PM

Does anyone think that Timothy might die in the end?

Michelangelo · 11-09-2013, 07:27 PM

What's with these references like Voltron?
I loved it, but what do the children watching these shows think, they have no frame of reference? Do they think it's cool?
For the older fans there is clearly a lot of references in the show.
That squirelanoids episodes being an aliens rip off (very awesome one at that), how are children meant to get the reference to something like that?
Hopefully the children love it, but if they ever knew that it was a nod to something like the aliens films they'd be curious and want to watch them. Of course that could turn out to be very bad. They might start watching the movie and get bored before anything happened and write off aliens for good, lol!

FoxZerro · 11-09-2013, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Voltron you mean. Although I do like how the robot looked more like Mazinkaiser Z. I'll post my thoughts later on, but wow, it's so sad to see what Timothy has become. As for Casey, this is the first time we see him before he became a vigilantee. He was always a crimefighter from the first time we see him. I kinda hate how he started putting moves on April right from the start. They're gonna go through the whole thing where 'the guy is an asshole, the girl hates him, eventually falls for him cause hey, girls love assholes, right?' trope.

I guess I missed the part where April hated Casey. It seemed like she didn't want the distraction of having I deal with anybody else as she tried to get her life back on track. I don't see Casey as an asshole or a bad boy. In fact he seems like your pretty basic high school jock (from real life, not television) who enjoys sports more than school work but has to succeed in the latter in order to keep the privilege of the former. I really liked how genuine he seemed to be with April. He didn't come across as a jerk about needing to be tutored he came right out and said it and didn't fight her on having to study.

And those who have an issue with the whole coming in to strong with April thing. Look at the kid missing teeth, Almost failing off the hockey team. Just because he's a jock doesn't mean he's used to a line of girls looking to get a piece of that sweet sweet Jones action. He's obviously not as familiar with talking to girls as could be at that age so he is doing what he thinks is right based on what he's seen on tv. Plus I'm pretty sure he's a cool customer anyway and that is why he is approaching this new situation as if it's old hat and not something new.

Last thought loved the whole Jones / O'Neil addressing of one another it was flirtatious without being to over the top.

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Originally Posted by Purple Kraken

You know, with Tim chasing to get April, it makes me wonder if Tim had any friends in his childhood. This is just a guess.

I mean... Tim seemed so determined to make April his friend, it looked like he was going to go insane. I know it's probably because of his memory loss, but still, it can be really sad if you think deeply about it.

I viewed it as Timothy wanting to protect April and using the word friend because of a lack of intelligence and vocabulary in his mutagen man form. After hearing the way that Donatello speaks about her and knowing what has happened to himself as a result of interactions with the turtles, it felt more like he was trying to protect her from a similar fate which seems all but avoided now that she has stopped hanging with the TMNT. By those standard she would only be his friend and not the turtles since he is doing his damnedest to keep her out of harms way as part of the machinations of the turtles

*NinjaPug* · 11-09-2013, 09:17 PM

Didn't love it, didn't hate it. Just seemed like another episode.

- Decent intro for Casey Jones. Ciro said his storyline would take 3 episodes to unfold so I'll reserve judgement until then.

- Why was Mutagen Man continually going for the ooze? Not a huge deal but I would've liked some sort of explanation. I did like how he lost power when he ran out of mutagen.

- April is the worst. The level of her hatred for the Turtles right now makes no sense and makes me hate her as a character.

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11-09-2013, 06:07 PM	#61
Papenbrook I'm leaving. Goodbye. :) Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: No comment -_- ... Posts: 2,754	You know, with Tim chasing to get April, it makes me wonder if Tim had any friends in his childhood. This is just a guess. I mean... Tim seemed so determined to make April his friend, it looked like he was going to go insane. I know it's probably because of his memory loss, but still, it can be really sad if you think deeply about it. Last edited by Papenbrook; 11-09-2013 at 06:13 PM.

11-09-2013, 06:29 PM	#64
BabyTurtles Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 4,177	that was awesome _ sorry but I'm not on the poor Timothy bandwagon. he was a jerk....he got himself into this whole mess and tries to hurt the people that are trying to help him!? fine....sure Mikey and Raph kinda don't like him..but STILL! hurting Donnie!? and trying to get after April.......FOR HIMSELF!? uncool.... I'm on Mikey and Raph's side...I would have kicked his butt on first sight. __________________

11-09-2013, 06:28 PM	#63
AdamWarlock87 Hench Mutant Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 317	I'm pretty sure that it was Irma who got hit in the face with the puck. She looked just like the girl on Aprils cell phone.

11-09-2013, 06:43 PM	#67
Donatello19 Merchandise Maniac Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: New York Posts: 5,919	I agree with some of you who said that April is starting to get annoying. I LOVE the fact that she's mad, but it's like she has a pure hatred for the turtles now, even after they saved her numerous times, gave her a temporary home, and trained her. I just think they should've handled it a better way when she was watching the fight...like, lets say MM had Don pinned and was about to drip acid all over him, and then you see her fan fly in and hit MM, freeing Don. The turtles turn to April, but she has a confused expression on her face, and runs. Maybe that would work? IDK. What are you guys talking about with ICK? I remember the cat getting hit with the acid, but why would that be ICK?

11-09-2013, 06:52 PM	#70
Utromshredderhater Hench Mutant Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 255	There's still hope Donnie

11-09-2013, 07:06 PM	#72
Papenbrook I'm leaving. Goodbye. :) Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: No comment -_- ... Posts: 2,754	Wow, it seems like everyone is just about mixed on the whole Mutagen Man/Timothy plot line. In my opinion, I sympathise with Timothy, but at the same time, I don't like his Mutagen Man persona. I mean, I can understand why Tim would be upset at the turtles. They basically treated him like he was a monster/wimp, with the latter being when he was still human. However, that gives him no reason to start attacking the very people who tried to help him. By the way, I think Mutagen Man is a hypocrite. In one scene, he tells the turtles to leave him alone, but in the past, he wouldn't leave the turtles alone. I can't understand that.

11-09-2013, 07:06 PM	#73
Michelangelo Foot Soldier Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 244	I'd say he's more like Dr Venkman. He's after the girl and has all the confidence in himself. The ego is definitely there, but there seems to be genuiness/honesty about his character that April might actually go for. Very cool that his hockey skills are his special ability and he can really pull off some awesome moves. Looking forward to the new Playmates toy figure of him.

11-09-2013, 07:16 PM	#74
Michelangelo Foot Soldier Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 244	Mutagen man seems like Frankenstein's monster, and in that sense he may be very misunderstood. However unlike Dr Frankenstein, Donny is trying restore him not create a monster. But perhaps in the process things will turn out just like the story of Frankenstein and Timothy will end up being the misunderstood victim. Does anyone want to see the pulveriser actually return?

11-09-2013, 07:19 PM	#75
Papenbrook I'm leaving. Goodbye. :) Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: No comment -_- ... Posts: 2,754	Excuse me, but you're not supposed to have two posts in a row.

11-09-2013, 07:26 PM	#77
Papenbrook I'm leaving. Goodbye. :) Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: No comment -_- ... Posts: 2,754	Does anyone think that Timothy might die in the end?

11-09-2013, 07:27 PM	#78
Michelangelo Foot Soldier Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 244	What's with these references like Voltron? I loved it, but what do the children watching these shows think, they have no frame of reference? Do they think it's cool? For the older fans there is clearly a lot of references in the show. That squirelanoids episodes being an aliens rip off (very awesome one at that), how are children meant to get the reference to something like that? Hopefully the children love it, but if they ever knew that it was a nod to something like the aliens films they'd be curious and want to watch them. Of course that could turn out to be very bad. They might start watching the movie and get bored before anything happened and write off aliens for good, lol!

11-09-2013, 09:17 PM	#80
NinjaPug Foot Elite Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 4,390	Didn't love it, didn't hate it. Just seemed like another episode. - Decent intro for Casey Jones. Ciro said his storyline would take 3 episodes to unfold so I'll reserve judgement until then. - Why was Mutagen Man continually going for the ooze? Not a huge deal but I would've liked some sort of explanation. I did like how he lost power when he ran out of mutagen. - April is the worst. The level of her hatred for the Turtles right now makes no sense and makes me hate her as a character.