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Old 06-29-2002, 01:31 AM   #61
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Samantha, I agree with you completely. I was also an atheist when I was younger. I REALLY resented being forced to say "under God", and I usually didn't. Religion isn't something that should be shoved down the throats of the young. Of course, I also think this whole issue is a non-issue. It just doesn't deserve all the effort and attention its getting. (In the grand scheme of things, the Pledge of Allegience just isn't that important.)
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Old 06-29-2002, 03:01 AM   #62
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I've never been religious, being brought up by athiest parents (though I was christened...!) so I can imagine some kids feeling uncomfortable. I felt uncomfortable having to say prayers in assembley and lunchtime.

I think the keyword is 'choice'. If you're religious you should be able to say it, if you're not, you shouldn't have to.
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Old 06-29-2002, 10:09 AM   #63
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*suddenly feels like she's the only Christian on this forum and backs into a corner while holding up her fingers in the shape of a cross*
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Old 06-29-2002, 11:24 AM   #64
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I got the opposite impression!!
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Old 06-29-2002, 12:58 PM   #65
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Awww...don't worry HT. We're mostly harmless.
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Old 06-29-2002, 02:13 PM   #66
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...mostly?
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Old 06-29-2002, 02:16 PM   #67
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Mostly. Though Splinter might argue that I've been doing a great deal of harm to his good reputation.
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Old 06-29-2002, 02:18 PM   #68
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(this is a bit off the present conversation, but please, just bear w/ me)

ARHGHG! I hate him that ******* meathead! *$(%$*% %()$*$

Ah, there. I feel better.
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Old 06-29-2002, 02:19 PM   #69
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heh... well, that is what this thread is for.
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Old 06-29-2002, 02:20 PM   #70
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Oh dear... who...?

...glad you feel better...!
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Old 06-29-2002, 02:20 PM   #71
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Hmm. Just be glad I wasn't in about 10 minutes ago or else I NEVER would've stopped.
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Old 06-29-2002, 02:23 PM   #72
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Stopped... doing what?
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Old 06-29-2002, 02:24 PM   #73
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Ranting. I am just in a really PO'd mood right now.
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Old 06-29-2002, 07:17 PM   #74
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Sorry to hear you had some crappy stuff happening Enigma. If its any consolation...the customers have been extra stupid at work today. (I came home for lunch. Can we say sanctuary?
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Old 07-01-2002, 06:36 PM   #75
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Well... now i got something that tops off all things ******.

*doesn't know whether to tear apart Murphy's Law, or punk ass, vandalizing kids*

Hubby called me this morning, with the news that his car had been broken into and his Kenwood CD playing radio was stolen! It was like during the night, right here in the aprtment complex. Is no place sacred to us anymore?

Damn... but that's not the endof it. Since I'm the one with the snazzy car and the accident prone tendancies, I have full coverage on the auto insurance. But just drives an ol Ford Taurus and considers himself a good driver, so he decided to go with the basic plan... with no comprehensive.

Sooooo.... he's gotta pay for the busted window and live with the lost of his stereo! Gah! O course, he called the cops, but I mean.,.. it's a stolen radio. Big deal... compared to grand theft auto, drug dealers and homicidal maniacs. Rrr.....

Like I said... I reeeeeeeeeally hate Murphy's Law.
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Old 07-01-2002, 06:46 PM   #76
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*sighs* Well, I feel better now.
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Old 07-01-2002, 07:34 PM   #77
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Um, I must agree with HT. This political correctness thing that The US has gotten into is getting WAY out of hand.

The United States of America was founded during a time when religion was very important to the people. They were so worried that this blooming country would collapse, so they asked for God's blessings. All countries do that, no matter if their God is Zeus, Allah, Buddah, Mother Earth or Gaia (I think those are right...)

I say, Do the pledge of allegiance, but if you want to put something in its place, no one says you have to say it out loud. Even a quiet pledge is still a good pledge....
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Old 07-02-2002, 07:01 AM   #78
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Yay! I do not stand alone.

Well... at least that little bit made me feel better for a moment. But our car robbery incident... that's actually worse that first thought. Hubby later realized the bastards also stole his tool box, his new fishing poles (he pay a pretty penny for in Korea) and fishing tackle, a couple of backpacks, his pack of cigs and lighter, and even the cup/CD holder thing you put on the hump in the front!

The good side to this... he had taken his CDs, his Oakley sunglasses, and his bag full of important papers inside that night. And they didn't steal *everything*... they left behind his Korean bible, the atlas, the junky stuff, and his broken fishing pole and the fishing 'floaters'.

*mutters* Poor guy felt like he been raped! Stealing one's fishing equipment and tools is like stealing one's sword (in ninja terms). At least they didn't go the full nine yards and steals the damn car too. *gonna call the insurance company to see ift those loses are covered under renter's insurance* And I'm gonna take my leather saddle out of my truck and insist my parents hold onto it again. (got no room for it in my apartment)

I/We never had aything stolen from us like this.
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Old 07-02-2002, 11:15 AM   #79
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Oh man. I'm really sorry... it's awful when something like that happens.

We had our car stolen about 8 months ago, and though it's a crappy thing we still needed it to get from a to b, and we couldn't afford to buy another one. (I mean that car itself was as cheap as they come, being a bargain at £125)
We got it back, but it's never been the same, and then we were totally paranoid and got security devices that cost more than the car itself... simply because we couldn't afford another. We even kept the bathroom light on at night in the hope that the light on the car would make any theives more reluctant to steal it. It's sad really.
We never had anything of value in the car to steal, fortunately, but I can imagine how gutted I'd feel if something important to me had been taken.

We're getting another car soon, and we're really fretting about it's security on the street as we don't have a garage. It's horrible, isn't it.
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Old 07-02-2002, 04:34 PM   #80
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*grin*

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*suddenly feels like she's the only Christian on this forum and backs into a corner while holding up her fingers in the shape of a cross*

Hey, chill, dudette! You're not alone, I promise!
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