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Old 04-10-2015, 12:36 PM   #61
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In your opinion.

I happen to like random Family Guy type humor lots of times. So while it's easy to see how The Simpsons isn't what it was - the entire humor of the show is different - it's still just as entertaining from a different direction.

It's definitely different, but to me that's fine. It's gotten goofier and more lowbrow, but that's the type of humor that sells now. The worst I can really say, is that sometimes it's too derivative of McFarlane. But since his stuff owns Sundays on Fox and all the other older shows that didn't follow that style of humor got cancelled, like King of the Hill, it's really easy to see why the Simpsons had to become more that kind of show.
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Old 04-10-2015, 12:39 PM   #62
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That's not what Simpsons was known for though. It became that way overtime because the writing got worse and Family Guy etc. gained popularity so it started to mimic it.

Simpsons used to be a heartfelt show with good moments. Sure the characters would always do something idiotic overtime, but the episodes had good plots and characters were likeable and relateable. Watching Simpsons Seasons 2-8 especially makes you remember why the show became popular in the first place and why it was such a hit.
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Old 04-10-2015, 12:44 PM   #63
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That stuff is still there it's just not as prevalent. They shifted the focus. Oh well. It's been on the air for 300 years, it's kind of naive to think they'd do the exact same stuff that they used to do. Making the same episodes forever would be pretty redundant.

Whether it's to your personal taste isn't really relevant. Just the usual "Band X sucks because their fifth album doesn't sound like their first album" kind of stuff.
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Old 04-10-2015, 01:29 PM   #64
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It's tragic how the people who have the knowledge of the inner workings of business and how to make a buck are the ones who have nothing to show for it. Wonder why.
Hahahahaha! Wooosh! Also, self awareness is apparently something you have to be born with.
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Old 04-10-2015, 01:33 PM   #65
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"Big companies have money and you don't, so bend over."
No, it's more like: a growing majority of people prefer this new technology so businesses you better figure out how to get into that technology or figure out a different use for your product.

I know you like to buy into conspiracy theories about evil businesses, but really, most of what businesses do is dictated by the market.

Plain and simple, if most people in the country or world preferred physical copies and demanded them, businesses would comply because they would have to in order to stay in business. As it were, that's not the current direction the market is taking. People...the majority of them....prefer digital.

The future of retail is digital. Period. Check out Black Friday brick and mortar sales. Pathetic compared to cyber sales. And brick and mortar stores will bend over backwards to get you in on Black Friday. People these days prefer digital shopping and that includes buying their entertainment digitally.
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That's not what Simpsons was known for though. It became that way overtime because the writing got worse and Family Guy etc. gained popularity so it started to mimic it.

Simpsons used to be a heartfelt show with good moments. Sure the characters would always do something idiotic overtime, but the episodes had good plots and characters were likeable and relateable. Watching Simpsons Seasons 2-8 especially makes you remember why the show became popular in the first place and why it was such a hit.
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That stuff is still there it's just not as prevalent. They shifted the focus. Oh well. It's been on the air for 300 years, it's kind of naive to think they'd do the exact same stuff that they used to do. Making the same episodes forever would be pretty redundant.

Whether it's to your personal taste isn't really relevant. Just the usual "Band X sucks because their fifth album doesn't sound like their first album" kind of stuff.

TBH you are both right. I went through a "Simpsons is sh*t" period, around season 11- 16, I didn't even watch it that much. I was looking at it like, the show isn't the same as it was, and the truth is, it isn't as good as it was, but those were different times, and what our generation found funny and heart warming, wouldn't work with a new generation. The show HAD to change to survive. I think if it stayed the same as it was in the early 90s, it would be long gone.

I still enjoy the gags and the characters, some of the stories are really hit and miss, but for the most part I still love it.
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Old 04-10-2015, 02:19 PM   #67
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Digital content is a privilege, a privilege that can be taken away with a keystroke. You don't "own" any of it.
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And that's the most disturbing part, IMHO. You're paying for the privilege of using someone else's property, and they can revoke the privilege at any time, without even giving you a reason, denying access to what YOU paid for.
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Looking for the first few seasons might be a bit of a challenge for me since I'm not even a constant Amazon customer, but at the same token, I prefer to actually own the stuff that I pay for. So I too am against this idea that all future Simpsons episodes could be made into the stream-only mode; I much like getting free TV and pay for the seasons *that I like* on DVD sets whenever I can find them. I'm spoiled that way.
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Can't take DVD's to the grave, brah! YOLO!
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Can't take DVD's to the grave, brah! YOLO!
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Can't take DVD's to the grave, brah! YOLO!
Sure you can, just like anything else- have 'em buried with you, LOL! Like the Egyptians did.
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Sure you can, just like anything else- have 'em buried with you, LOL! Like the Egyptians did.
That is the saddest idea I have ever heard.
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I wish I could be alive to witness the tale of the mummy they pull out from a homemade tomb 500 years from now. Decorated from head to toe in MLP memorabilia. Stacks of ancient DVD's piled around them. Anime body pillow melded to the crotch.
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"He must have been a great king. He has the collectors edition of Saved By The Bell."

Quotes '90 April: "It was a JOKE!"

Admit it guys, you've all thought about having your favorite (fill in the blank) buried with you.
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When the world changes, adapt or die.

There was once a company which made a product that cleaned soot from wall paper. Because back in the day, coal burning furnaces were how you heated houses and coal soot was everywhere in houses. Eventually electric heaters became common and the company with the wall paper cleaner was in financial trouble. The reason they had prospered had ended with an advancement in technology.

However that company was smart. They did not staunchly insist that the world stop technological innovation...they figured out a new way to be prosperous. They discovered that their product was pretty fun to play with and they began to produce their gummy wall cleaner as a toy. And they still exist today

If the market dictates that digital media is the way of the future, then companies will adapt to that market direction or they will go the way of Betamax, Laser disc, and Cassette tapes. When was the last time you used a typewriter? Or a floppy disc, or rode in a wagon to work?

Innovation changes how we live. It isn't a bad thing, just a change. Change is uncomfortable. But change is inevitable so you need to learn to adapt.
So you're basically telling people like me who live in the country who can't get wireless Internet because it's not available here and someone who has broadband Internet where you only get 5GB of data to use every month and if you go over that you get charged for every additional data usage to just adapt or die? Sorry, not going to happen. It's fine for people who have access to good Internet, but as has been stated by Leo, Duckie, and myself, it's just not possible. Not everyone has that type of access, so to just say, "Hey, you need to deal with or miss out" is pretty stupid and narrow-minded.

I'm with Leo in that everyone needs options. Keep the digital but provide physical copies for those who just can't afford to have Netflix or whatever else is out there. You'll generate sales from the people who can't have the digital stuff. And for the record, I still buy CDs and I have no problem with that. Same goes with books.

Just my two cents. Take it or leave it.
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Old 04-11-2015, 09:16 AM   #79
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What I'm saying is that the market demand drives what businesses do. People who live in areas where digital media is hard to get or use are in the minority in the country. Ad Duckie said, they still do make physical copies of media, but it's a small amount. Because people who buy them are the minority of consumers.

Additionally, if you and the people in you market demand better quality Internet, it will happen eventually.

You people live in much more urban areas than I do. New Jersey? Indiana? Somewhere where you can walk to a Taco Bell and go to work? I live in Alabama. On a mountain. In the woods. And guess what? People in my area wanted better internet and flooded Charter with requests. And I used to get no cell signal until I bugged the crap out of Verizon and got a signal booster installed.

Mostly what I'm hearing and seeing are people who expect businesses to cater to what they need without being vocal about it. If your position is that there are a lot of people who prefer physical copies of media, then those people should put their money where their mouth is and let businesses know that they want to buy physical copies of media.

If you can't afford to do that, which is basically what I'm hearing, and you can't afford to have digital media. Well businesses don't really care about you because you are not their customer

It's like voting. You can't just sit around and b!tch about what is going on and how the politicians aren't doing something for you. You didn't vote for them or anyone else. Why should they care. Buying stuff from businesses is how they know people want something. If you don't buy you aren't their customer and they have no obligation to do anything for you
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What I can get from this topic and other posts in general in other parts of the forum made by Leo is that man you have it rough dude, everything you like or use are things that are very specific and it's difficult to market to you since you are such a special case/scenario. Don't get me wrong I like that you are the way you are but yeah you won't find many things catering to your specific needs any time soon.

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Well I'm only "done" with this topic because I don't want to continue repeating the same points over and over and sound like a broken record, I believe I already posted my take on this in a few different ways, I won't continue arguing against incorrect points like "the only reason they don't sell is because they don't make them" which couldn't be any less true but if I find new things in the topic I'll reply.
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