Official Episode Discussion S4 Ep 8:The War for Dimension X - Page 4

*Vicky82* · 01-31-2016, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by PangolinFeets

Jesus, people here are talking more about the kissing than on Tumblr....

Tell me about it, everyone reblogging the kissing scenes.

*Ninturtle* · 01-31-2016, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Papenbrook

That's a generalization, Powder.

Ciro literally said he got off his facebook account because he was tired of all the messages he got about Mona Lisa at NYCC. Odds are he was trying to please the demographic from tumblr that was begging for Mona Lisa.

*drgon78* · 01-31-2016, 11:24 AM

I enjoyed it, nice back story for the Utrom/Kraang. Also nice to find out were there human droid designs came from.

*victory_angel* · 01-31-2016, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by JTH

This is the issue I have with it though, the whole point of Raph's relationship with Mona should be to help him put in perspective what all his brothers are going through with their feelings, specifically Donnie & Leo with all the crap he's said to them about acting stupid around their interests, so it can be an "I understand how you guys feel now about this stuff."

It doesn't have to be done in a lubby dubby kind of way, just a way to acknowledge what Raph has done in prior seasons and coming to grips with what they all go through.

It doesn't seem like they're going to play that role though, which kind of makes the the point of it moot.

Maybe when the Dark April thing happens...it wouldn't be so much Donnie hugging Raph (the same way both Mikey and Leo have done to calm Raph down. (invasion-Mikey) and (Ancient Aeons-Leo) but Raph hugging Donnie as that would be putting Raph full circle.

In Season 1: Raph was skeptical about Donnie's attraction towards April and even tells his brother to his face that there is no chance of that happening.

Season 2: Raph does sort of attempt to pull Donnie out of his funk when April leaves. And later when Casey is asking about whether April had talked about him when she visits the lair. Raph indicates he doesn't want to take sides regarding April.

Season 3: Raph again points out to Donnie that any sort of relationship beyond friendship is not likely to happen.

This season since he has a love of his own...he is able to understand what his brothers all feel about their respective loves.

aliena · 01-31-2016, 12:32 PM

I liked this episode, but the Raph and Mona kissing was too much and I'm a shipper! One thing I will say, this relationship is moving the fastest and is probably the sexiest. When Mona says she'd like to train with him or teach him some of her moves, he says he'd really like that a lot as if implying something else entirely. It's funny that he never pined away for Mona like Leo has for Karai.

I thought the very end was super sad. When Leo says he could see kissing Karai like that, but not a lizard woman, Donnie tells him beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Leo looks so sad as if he's thinking about Karai and how they will never kiss like that, which they probably won't. It even froze them and if you look at Leo he looks so sad. I don't think the Donnie April thing will ever be concluded either, which is what I figured they'd do.

With that out of the way, on to other things. Is Savage Mikey getting old? I do love when he's in charge and knows what to do, but I think it's getting boring now. I loved seeing everyone else again, especially the real Irma and Bishop. And at least they got all the information they needed on the last two pieces. When Donnie or whoever was asking Irma about it and she lost her head I thought oh no, another wasted episode. But they came through with all they needed to get the last pieces and destroy them.

*Raph's Girl* · 01-31-2016, 12:45 PM

Ok first off.... While I do like that Mona Lisa is in more than one episode, even I think they need to do stuff other than kissy face. But eh...teenagers.

I love the origin of the Kraang. So Kraang Prime is uh Krang Krang who went nutty and decided to hive mind everyone to do his bidding. Well alrighty then!

That French Utrom...

matteso586 · 01-31-2016, 12:48 PM

I think it was an awesome episode. So you people better stop being cynical about everything.

It even made me more curious about KSP's backstory. That cybernetic nutcase had three names apparently.

And its creative that each member of the Utrom council is named after a chess piece.

*Powder* · 01-31-2016, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Papenbrook

That's a generalization, Powder.

You're one to talk.

& like my buddy said, it's a fact.

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Originally Posted by Ninturtle

Ciro literally said he got off his facebook account because he was tired of all the messages he got about Mona Lisa at NYCC. Odds are he was trying to please the demographic from tumblr that was begging for Mona Lisa.

*Foombamaroom* · 01-31-2016, 12:58 PM

I think a lot of people are confusing two things: It's fine that Raph has a love interest, it's just poorly written.

ticktack · 01-31-2016, 01:01 PM

I don't know what's the necessity to make Irma's situation from its current (past at this time) situation to badder and more bizzare. :/

*Powder* · 01-31-2016, 01:09 PM

Huh? They made her a good guy.

*Sabacooza* · 01-31-2016, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Foombamaroom

I think a lot of people are confusing two things: It's fine that Raph has a love interest, it's just poorly written.

This exactly times 10. Why does it have to be so over done and so out of character to the point where he acts like the woman of the relationship? What's so wrong with him playing it a bit more cool like Leo did with Karai or Mikey with Renet for that matter? It's fine to have a bit of a crush but when it's shoved in your face so hard it becomes so forced and annoying.

ticktack · 01-31-2016, 01:14 PM

I'm not in the theme with this but... Wearing glasses =/= nerdy or "ugly" additions at all (as it was its intention before >

and is usually) it could likely mean that the person has a bad eyesight. Well I can't blame the look of Nick "Irma" because of it is its sort of recreation of an old cartoon Irma(bleh/meh). But the Irma of current series before ""s was cool. And she could have quit playing with glasses and if she had unusual superpowers (like in OT) she could have had an option to quit wearing it.

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Originally Posted by Powder

Huh? They made her a good guy.

I don't think I ment that. Like, ok, a good Rock(chess object) could make a rip-off of a human person's body and say Kraang subprime that she/it has created it(robot body). We could get many, many excuses for the plot but as it goes it gets ¯|_(ツ)_/¯ sillier(coughbadderbizzare).
Or like in avatar movie when a person makes a mind exchange to become another creature.

*oldmanwinters* · 01-31-2016, 01:26 PM

Maybe now we can finally heard the end of the Irma-ites' clamoring.

Also:
Leo: "I totally get mutants like Karai, but... alien lizards?"

*Papenbrook* · 01-31-2016, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ticktack

I don't know what's the necessity to make Irma's situation from its current (past at this time) situation to badder and more bizzare. :/

There are so many reasons for that, but I will sum it up with the most obvious one...

Spoiler:

*Ninturtle* · 01-31-2016, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Papenbrook

There are so many reasons for that, but I will sum it up in one sentence.

The show doesn't care about female characters.

There's nothing wrong with what they did with Irmas droid in this episode, it expanded on the idea that the Kraang stole suits from the Utroms presented in the season 3 finale.

~~Etsyturtle2~~ · 01-31-2016, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Papenbrook

There are so many reasons for that, but I will sum it up in one sentence.

The show doesn't care about female characters.

Facepalm.

*TigerClaw* · 01-31-2016, 01:39 PM

The episode was great, nice seeing Mona Lisa kicking ass again, And also this.

*Utrommaniac* · 01-31-2016, 01:57 PM

Considering that the machine lost its head, I wouldn't assume Pawn is dead. Both she and Queen did a little more than Rook, and I hope to see them back again.

As for the council, obviously based on chess pieces:

King - Dead? Kraang Prime? Completely absent
Queen - Leader; her tiara may be goofy, but I like it
Knight - Traitor
Bishop - Is Bishop
Rook - Original creator of the Irma suit
Pawn - Is French; takes a back seat to Queen and Rook

Most of all, I like that we've gotten two female Utroms at once. F***ing finally. And they work closely with one another too. In my book, it's a massive plus. Just hope we can get more in Return of the Technodrome.

*neatoman* · 01-31-2016, 02:16 PM

I have some ideas of who King could be...

Spoiler:

View Poll Results: April and Casey are left behind again
So if Kraang Sub-Prime was Knight, who was King?	15	26.32%
Looks like the Kraang Sub-Prime is a defector like Oroku Saki was in the Ninja Tribunal	6	10.53%
Mona Lisa returns	18	31.58%
Darn the SuperBowl...I want to see the next episode.	18	31.58%
Voters: 57. You may not vote on this poll

01-31-2016, 12:45 PM	#66
Raph's Girl Dierna Soul, Reporter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jakku Posts: 10,831	Ok first off.... While I do like that Mona Lisa is in more than one episode, even I think they need to do stuff other than kissy face. But eh...teenagers. I love the origin of the Kraang. So Kraang Prime is uh Krang Krang who went nutty and decided to hive mind everyone to do his bidding. Well alrighty then! That French Utrom... __________________

01-31-2016, 01:26 PM	#74
oldmanwinters Overlord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Between yesterday and tomorrow! Posts: 15,437	Maybe now we can finally heard the end of the Irma-ites' clamoring. Also: Leo: "I totally get mutants like Karai, but... alien lizards?" __________________ Experience the TMNT Fan Commentaries! Check out my TMNT fan comic, "Nothing to Fear"! View my sketch work! I'm selling some of my hard-to-find TMNT items!

01-31-2016, 01:39 PM	#78
TigerClaw Mutant Tiger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Hialeah, Florida, USA Posts: 14,160	The episode was great, nice seeing Mona Lisa kicking ass again, And also this. __________________ Follow me on my Tiktok https://www.tiktok.com/@tygerclaw305

01-31-2016, 01:57 PM	#79
Utrommaniac Resident overthinker Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: what is going on.......... Posts: 5,318	Considering that the machine lost its head, I wouldn't assume Pawn is dead. Both she and Queen did a little more than Rook, and I hope to see them back again. As for the council, obviously based on chess pieces: King - Dead? Kraang Prime? Completely absent Queen - Leader; her tiara may be goofy, but I like it Knight - Traitor Bishop - Is Bishop Rook - Original creator of the Irma suit Pawn - Is French; takes a back seat to Queen and Rook Most of all, I like that we've gotten two female Utroms at once. F**ing finally. And they work closely with one another too. In my book, it's a massive plus. Just hope we can get more in Return of the Technodrome. __________________ DeviantART Last edited by Utrommaniac; 01-31-2016 at 02:21 PM.*

01-31-2016, 11:24 AM	#63
drgon78 Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 2,399	I enjoyed it, nice back story for the Utrom/Kraang. Also nice to find out were there human droid designs came from.

01-31-2016, 12:32 PM	#65
aliena Hench Mutant Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 294	I liked this episode, but the Raph and Mona kissing was too much and I'm a shipper! One thing I will say, this relationship is moving the fastest and is probably the sexiest. When Mona says she'd like to train with him or teach him some of her moves, he says he'd really like that a lot as if implying something else entirely. It's funny that he never pined away for Mona like Leo has for Karai. I thought the very end was super sad. When Leo says he could see kissing Karai like that, but not a lizard woman, Donnie tells him beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Leo looks so sad as if he's thinking about Karai and how they will never kiss like that, which they probably won't. It even froze them and if you look at Leo he looks so sad. I don't think the Donnie April thing will ever be concluded either, which is what I figured they'd do. With that out of the way, on to other things. Is Savage Mikey getting old? I do love when he's in charge and knows what to do, but I think it's getting boring now. I loved seeing everyone else again, especially the real Irma and Bishop. And at least they got all the information they needed on the last two pieces. When Donnie or whoever was asking Irma about it and she lost her head I thought oh no, another wasted episode. But they came through with all they needed to get the last pieces and destroy them.

01-31-2016, 12:48 PM	#67
matteso586 Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 712	I think it was an awesome episode. So you people better stop being cynical about everything. It even made me more curious about KSP's backstory. That cybernetic nutcase had three names apparently. And its creative that each member of the Utrom council is named after a chess piece.

01-31-2016, 12:58 PM	#69
Foombamaroom Lord of Cinder Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 1,646	I think a lot of people are confusing two things: It's fine that Raph has a love interest, it's just poorly written.

01-31-2016, 01:01 PM	#70
ticktack Hench Mutant Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 419	I don't know what's the necessity to make Irma's situation from its current (past at this time) situation to badder and more bizzare. :/

01-31-2016, 01:09 PM	#71
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,945	Huh? They made her a good guy.