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Old 03-22-2022, 03:38 PM   #61
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And they've cut a lot out of the movie too...all Spider-Man references and reducing Keaton's screen time

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Old 03-22-2022, 03:53 PM   #62
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and reducing Keaton's screen time
That was probably the #1 reason I wanted to go see this mess.
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Old 03-22-2022, 04:44 PM   #63
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Yeesh. This has to be either Marvel seeing the movie and going, "No way do we want this connected at the hip to our stuff!" OR... this might have something to do with the changing/expanded plans and reshoots over on Dr. Strange: Multiverse of Madness. Like, maybe they want the Venom universe to be its own thing shared with Morbius until whatever it is happens in Multiverse of Madness.
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Old 03-23-2022, 05:55 AM   #64
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Reshoot the movie, cut the movie...its like no-one has any kind of plan this days.
They just wing and think it'll work somehow.
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Old 03-23-2022, 08:39 AM   #65
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These days big studios are driven by insecurity and social media. There's no real plan.
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Old 03-23-2022, 09:50 AM   #66
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Matt Smith vents about the script

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Old 03-23-2022, 10:36 AM   #67
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Spider-Man does not need nor warrant his "own" movie Universe and giving movies to Spider-Man's villains was sort of nonsense to begin with. Routinely turning villains into a protagonist takes away from the villain at some point. It used to be clever - the protagonist villain anti-hero - but now it's just a cliche trope.
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Old 03-23-2022, 11:29 AM   #68
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Not only that, but some of them doesn't work as protagonists at all - like what would be the point of movies about Green Goblin or Carnage?
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And now you have all these movies with Venom and Morbius and Kraven where we root for the bad guys... then we're supposed to turn around and want to see them fight Spider-Man, for some reason?
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Old 03-23-2022, 01:57 PM   #70
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I plan on seeing it... don't care how bad it is. I have AMC A-List (can see up to 3 movies in any format a week for a monthly fee), so I'm not technically paying for a ticket anyway. I try to go at least once a week and this is my pick for that week.

If it's worse than Venom 1 or 2, and it looks like it probably will be, at least I'll have more material to write about on the internet
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Old 03-23-2022, 02:05 PM   #71
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And now you have all these movies with Venom and Morbius and Kraven where we root for the bad guys... then we're supposed to turn around and want to see them fight Spider-Man, for some reason?
Not only that but also root for Spider-Man to beat them even though we were just rooting for them in their own movies? If anything, Spider-Man would be the bad guy here.
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Old 03-23-2022, 02:20 PM   #72
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The good news will be if these Spider spinoffs fail and fail hard, Sony might be more open to an offer from Disney for all the rights and we can shore up this kind of nonsense.
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More bad reception:
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Old 03-25-2022, 08:30 AM   #74
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Post credits for Morbius

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Keaton is transported from the MCU to another universe via the rift from No Way Home. He's released from jail on grounds that he did not commit any crimes to the knowledge of the police in this universe. In the second post credit scene, he shows up in his Vulture gear and intercepts Morbius, where he offers him a chance to join a team he's putting together that will confront Spider-Man
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Post credits for Morbius

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Keaton is transported from the MCU to another universe via the rift from No Way Home. He's released from jail on grounds that he did not commit any crimes to the knowledge of the police in this universe. In the second post credit scene, he shows up in his Vulture gear and intercepts Morbius, where he offers him a chance to join a team he's putting together that will confront Spider-Man
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This sounds awful. Hopefully, if it is awful, Sony will get a well-timed punishment and realize they still need Marvel involved for Spider-Man.

I actually wanted Spider-Man rights to revert back to Sony, after I initially saw Far From Home. Yup, I was ready for it, after that dud. Then Venom and Venom 2 convinced me Sony had still not grown from the ASM 2 days.
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Post credits for Morbius

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Keaton is transported from the MCU to another universe via the rift from No Way Home. He's released from jail on grounds that he did not commit any crimes to the knowledge of the police in this universe. In the second post credit scene, he shows up in his Vulture gear and intercepts Morbius, where he offers him a chance to join a team he's putting together that will confront Spider-Man
So...

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"Keaton is transported from the MCU to another universe via the rift form No Way Home"... and then "he shows up in his Vulture gear and intercepts Morbius." So he is transported to THIS universe, right? The lonely universe populated only by Venom but maybe-probably-not Andrew Garfield, too?

And I dunno. I get that Keaton's Vulture was always going to be part of the Sinister Six and then they'd go on adventures... but last I checked he wasn't even that mad at Spider-Man? Certainly not mad enough to assemble a team to go and fight him. And to what end? He really wants to kill Peter Parker?

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So...

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"Keaton is transported from the MCU to another universe via the rift form No Way Home"... and then "he shows up in his Vulture gear and intercepts Morbius." So he is transported to THIS universe, right? The lonely universe populated only by Venom but maybe-probably-not Andrew Garfield, too?

And I dunno. I get that Keaton's Vulture was always going to be part of the Sinister Six and then they'd go on adventures... but last I checked he wasn't even that mad at Spider-Man? Certainly not mad enough to assemble a team to go and fight him. And to what end? He really wants to kill Peter Parker?
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Not only that, Spider-Man was kind of an annoyance to him, his real enemy MCU-wise anyways, was Tony Stark and he's already dead.
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Old 03-26-2022, 01:11 AM   #79
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Christ. They should be approaching these weird Sony Spider-Man villain spinoff things like Natural Born Killers. Origin story, show us how horrible they are but maybe in a fun way, and then cast them off so we appreciate them as villains but are rooting for Spider-Man to stomp them out. They don't seem to understand that this is a basic thing that is needed.
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The villains don’t need their own movies to be built up. Look how excited everyone was to see the classic Spider-Man villains back in No Way Home.

Lean into the Spider-Verse and you can develop a Sinister Six in the meantime there. Spider-Man 2099, Miles Morales, Spider-Gwen, Spider-Man, Venom (audiences already accept it).
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