RoboCop (4)

[newfan]

So, the Script which was originally intended for the original sequel was re-written and it is now being re-written again.
Wonder how different it will be (from what had been planned so far) with the this new uprising director will they still want the original suit design and Weller etc?

[Sumac]

Given how much Hollywood believes in NOSTALGIA, I believe, they will bring original suit at the very least.
Sadly, I am not really sure about quality of the movie. At least Robo has enough stinkers already, so one more, one less, won't make a difference, as opposed to Terminator.

[newfan]

Originally Posted by Sumac

Given how much Hollywood believes in NOSTALGIA, I believe, they will bring original suit at the very least.
Sadly, I am not really sure about quality of the movie. At least Robo has enough stinkers already, so one more, one less, won't make a difference, as opposed to Terminator.

I thought the same thing about the sequels/spin offs. Also, even if it is another flop, least it would end with this Robocop and not the remake version. Though if they are still going with the story where he is blown up and switched back on 25-years later, I wonder if they will modify him a little. That doesn't have to mean change to the appearance though.

[AquaParade]

I believe the original RoboCop is an awesome film. I've been indoctrinated by the internet. I even own the film digitally. But I still haven't been able to get through it and I don't know why.

I mean, obviously it comes down to subjective tastes, but it seems right up my alley. Going to give it another go sometime.

Meanwhile, I'm really just wondering what Neil Blomkamp is up to now. My faith in him is wavering, for sure, but tease "Distrct 10" and you'll have me pumped.

[newfan]

Originally Posted by AquaParade

t tease "Distrct 10" and you'll have me pumped.

He kind of did mention it, he did a poll just before he announced he was off Robocop, it was between Robocop returns and District 10. (which confused people as he was working on Robocop at the time) I voted Robo but before I could reply to the tweet it was deleted.

[AquaParade]

Originally Posted by newfan

He kind of did mention it, he did a poll just before he announced he was off Robocop, it was between Robocop returns and District 10. (which confused people as he was working on Robocop at the time) I voted Robo but before I could reply to the tweet it was deleted.

That's really interesting to me. Thanks for sharing!

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

It'd presumably be a Blade Runner 2049 kind of a thing. RoboCop: 30 Years Later, Weller as an obsolete model lawman. So many possibilities within that.

This post made me incredibly excited that this could be true.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Sumac

Given how much Hollywood believes in NOSTALGIA, I believe, they will bring original suit at the very least.
Sadly, I am not really sure about quality of the movie. At least Robo has enough stinkers already, so one more, one less, won't make a difference, as opposed to Terminator.

Robocop is way less toxic than Terminator. There is no trilogy of failed trilogy starters and beyond the failed remake 5 years ago, no movies at all for almost 30 years.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Robocop is way less toxic than Terminator. There is no trilogy of failed trilogy starters and beyond the failed remake 5 years ago, no movies at all for almost 30 years.

I would love to own the Marvel Productions animated series on DVD.

Also, did anybody else ever read the original Marvel Robocop comics? They aren't over-the-top gory (as is the case these days) but had some nice character beats.

Originally Posted by AquaParade

I believe the original RoboCop is an awesome film. I've been indoctrinated by the internet. I even own the film digitally. But I still haven't been able to get through it and I don't know why.

I mean, obviously it comes down to subjective tastes, but it seems right up my alley. Going to give it another go sometime.

Meanwhile, I'm really just wondering what Neil Blomkamp is up to now. My faith in him is wavering, for sure, but tease "Distrct 10" and you'll have me pumped.

Robocop is one of those movies where it doesn't feel like there is a clear protagonist/antagonist plot established. Murphy is killed, comes back as something possibly sub-human, kills a bunch of the people who killed him (but doesn't seem to take much personal pleasure in it), and finally takes down the corrupt company man as a little favor to mankind... movie over.

[Egon1982]

Originally Posted by Sumac

Given how much Hollywood believes in NOSTALGIA, I believe, they will bring original suit at the very least.
Sadly, I am not really sure about quality of the movie. At least Robo has enough stinkers already, so one more, one less, won't make a difference, as opposed to Terminator.

I mean i'm a fan of the character Robocop since i was 5 when i saw the movie in theaters with my parents and had some of the toys when i was 6 and watched the sunday morning cartoon and had comics even Terminator vs Robocop and saw Robocop 2 in theaters as i really enjoyed it, i find Robocop 2 to be highly underrated as it may have some problems but still is a fun kickass ultraviolent (as the first) sequel that has Robocop as a badass who took no prisoners and took names and even has the same quality satire of the first movie, RC 2 was a dark satire on PC culture and i really like how it gives PC culture the middle finger and ideas even RoboCain who is a great villain who is a cyborg who is also a drug junkie. It was the last time Robocop was a true badass and the last worthwhile Robocop thing that was true to the nature of the first movie even the adult entertainment of R rated violent dark satire with edge and funny satire done right.

And the reason why is that it was a continuous downgrade for the character after RoboCop 2. Not one but two PG-13 movies, a lame syndicated TV show where he couldn't shoot people so he used trick shots and shot foam, an embarrassing cartoon where he was transformed into an Inspector Gadget clone, one terrible 2003 video game and and a pathetic mini-series where RoboCop was portrayed by the least intimidating actor possible who was so short he might as well have been Roborunt.

It's like Nancy Allen once said:
" When you take an adult and mature themed movie like Robocop and you turn it into a fairytale to attract family audiences it just doesn't work... "

Then after all of that crap you had the remake which was a rotting dump on a sundae of garbage even those embarassing KFC commercials as he's been turned into a joke after R2. RoboCop hasn't had a good film let alone incarnation of the character since 1990 except maybe Terminator vs Robocop comics in 1993 by Frank Miller which are great and of course the recent Boom comics which were made by people who have a clue of what the character's roots/nature from the first 2 movies are from even the same dark satire of the first 2.

They should do a GOOD video game on Robocop and also do an adult animated TV-MA Hulu or Amazon Prime exclusive series similar to Spawn TAS and Castlevania that takes Robocop back to his R-rated roots of kickass violent action and satire even being true to the nature of the character in the first 2 movies which has been missing for the last 26 years.

Check out this video by a fan of Robocop like me who is an excellent youtube critic about the rise and fall of the character:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYDlPQpNYfc

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

Robocop is one of those movies where it doesn't feel like there is a clear protagonist/antagonist plot established. Murphy is killed, comes back as something possibly sub-human, kills a bunch of the people who killed him (but doesn't seem to take much personal pleasure in it), and finally takes down the corrupt company man as a little favor to mankind... movie over.

You're leaving out the whole business (that Robocop 2 and 3 sort of retconned away) of Murphy regaining his humanity at the end. "What's your name, son?" "Murphy."

It will be interesting to see if Robocop Returns maintains that.

And yes, I grew up on the Marvel Robocop series. Nixco!

[Leo656]

I had a few issues of the comic but that's all. I had a few of the toys based on the animated series.

Watched the second movie for the first time in years a few months ago, and it's better than I remembered. 3 is still f*cking horrible, though. None of the satire or dark humor or social commentary from the first two, just a toothless and generic super-hero movie aimed at kids. Awful. I can barely sit through it anymore. Although I do recall that when I was 12 or whatever I thought it was alright, mostly because he had a jet pack.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Leo656

None of the satire or dark humor or social commentary from the first two, just a toothless and generic super-hero movie aimed at kids. Awful. I can barely sit through it anymore. Although I do recall that when I was 12 or whatever I thought it was alright, mostly because he had a jet pack.

Looks like I was exactly 12 when I saw it in theaters. Oddly enough, I remember cringing early and often throughout the movie, beginning with that kid who can remote control ED-209s. I hated that movie.

The only moment that works in the movie is when Robocop gets that jetpack and gives aerial support to the people in the streets. It's a little bit moving and the only bit that has a soul.

[Leo656]

Ouch, I'm sorry you went through that. I only saw it on cable.

Like, I have the trilogy set on DVD but that's the only reason I have Part 3. And I'm pretty sure I've only popped the disc in once since I've owned it.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Ouch, I'm sorry you went through that. I only saw it on cable.

Like, I have the trilogy set on DVD but that's the only reason I have Part 3. And I'm pretty sure I've only popped the disc in once since I've owned it.

The closest experience to it I can think of was watching TMNT 3 in the theater (which looks like came out the same year as Robocop 3!). And as a kid, I loved both TMNT 1 and loved TMNT 2 even moreso (after TMNT 2, I remember digging DEEP holes in all of our backyards trying to find ooze or something, and trying to make ooze by bottling up algae). With both TMNT 3 and Robocop 3, there was this sense in my 12 year-old mind that these movies were so bad, I knew I'd seen the last one they would make of either. I didn't expect to see Robocop 4 or TMNT 4 after that, and didn't want to.

As an adult, TMNT 3 is still BAD, but has way more heart than 2 and is an overall better movie on a story level.

[Leo656]

You're weird. You're a weird guy.

I kind of agree about TMNT III, though. It's kinda like Superman IV... the skeleton of it is way better than that of the previous film, BUT, you can't make movies like that for t'ree-fitty or else it doesn't matter how good your intentions are, it'll turn out like crap. Need money, mang. TMNT III wasn't as entirely "bad" as much as it was "cheap".

Although, TMNT II helped to kickstart the career of one Kevin Scott Nash, so... part of me will always forgive its many, many sins.


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[newfan]

I tend to buy for completeness if it is a franchise I like. (Though as mentioned already they sometimes come together anyway) I think this franchise might be the most I have re-bought so far, VHS to DVD to Blu Ray and now they have the new disk set coming.. might I have to get it again.

[Andrew NDB]

I just had a horribly depressing thought about "Robocop Returns." What if the whole reason it is being held up is because of BLM, and a general perception that audiences are angry at the police?

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I just had a horribly depressing thought about "Robocop Returns." What if the whole reason it is being held up is because of BLM, and a general perception that audiences are angry at the police?

I am not sure about it - RoboCop always was always an establishment character, so he is by default on the side of "people". Not to mention in most movies he, basically, went rogue to deal with enemies.

Of course, SJW / BLM can't into context, so the mere mention that he is police officer would trigger their trashfart brains. But in the end, Holyweird knows when to fold it and who to serve when they need money.

[AquaParade]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I just had a horribly depressing thought about "Robocop Returns." What if the whole reason it is being held up is because of BLM, and a general perception that audiences are angry at the police?

I think Hollywood would certainly be apprehensive of selling us on a cop right now, yeah. If it were to release right now, it'd pretty much have to be all about race relations.
So I think you are on to something.