Michigan high school massacre

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Yesterday, Tuesday 30 November 2021, three students were killed and at least eight people were injuried after being shot during a high school massacre in Michigan. A 15 years old boy is suspected.

https://edition.cnn.com/us/live-news...d29fe2c8b54249

[Andrew NDB]

Used a handgun and not a scary black rifle so you won't hear about it much. Doesn't fit the narrative.

Have they revealed the killer's race? That they haven't yet makes me think it might be black. If not, then get ready for more "white supremacy" talk.

[Jester]

https://nypost.com/2021/12/01/michig...than-crumbley/
15 year old white kid.

[IndigoErth]

Heard about it plenty enough when I got home last night and this morning, so I don't know about that old "doesn't fit the narrative" shtick.

Also heard that daddy just bought him the gun last Friday. Oh yeah, his father must be feeling super great right now.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Heard about it plenty enough when I got home last night and this morning, so I don't know about that old "doesn't fit the narrative" shtick.

Oh, well let me explain. If there's a shooting... they'll report all about it (well, maybe while obfuscating certain details for the duration) for 2 or 3 days... then it's gone/onto the next thing. If there's a shooting and there's a rifle involved, now it's weeks and weeks of coverage about why there needs to be (more) gun control, etc.. We know this is what happens because this is always what happens.

Nowadays? Since it's a white kid and there will be stories coming out about how the dad was super irresponsible, white supremacy, etc., but not a whole lot of talk about gun control. Is my guess. So it's not that it doesn't fit the narrative, necessarily, it's that they need a little time to figure out what the narrative will be. In this case.

[Jester]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Also heard that daddy just bought him the gun last Friday. Oh yeah, his father must be feeling super great right now.

Yep, the Post article has pictures of him posting he new gun on Instagram

[frank_one]

[random "you Americans and your crazy obsession with guns" post from a peaceful and unarmed European dude]

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by frank_one

[random "you Americans and your crazy obsession with guns" post from a peaceful and unarmed European dude]

Yeah. Eh Don't go there, brother.

[mrmaczaps]

Originally Posted by frank_one

[random "you Americans and your crazy obsession with guns" post from a peaceful and unarmed European dude]

Stay in Europe easy pickings... we'll fight for our freedoms here.

[mrmaczaps]

Best part about this case, is once again, the school was made aware the kid had issues & apparently made some threats and guess what they did? Nothing. The Left LOVES dead children. Preborn & the born ones. You can have my guns when you pry them from my cold dead hands. The black supremacist in the suv killed more than this kid. Just the change of topic needed for the lunatic left. Congrats. 6

[IndigoErth]

Considering the details coming out now about troubling behavior in school, etc. it's dumbfounding that his father thought it just fine to get him a gun. Or let him anywhere near one. WT-actual-F.

I know no parent ever wants to dream that their child would ever have it in them to do such a thing and it may be temping to ignore any red flags, but come on. If they end up charged too, oh well, they likely deserve it if they ignored and neglected his mental health and enabled the deaths of other people's kids.

[Andrew NDB]

Obviously I'm a big gun advocate but while I certainly wouldn't see anything wrong with a parent showing a 15 year-old how to handle a firearm, even letting them shoot one in the woods or at the range... just saying, "Here's your pistol" and gifting them a handgun... no, that's screwed up. Especially a troubled kid in an age where white youths are being told everyday they're worthless and probably racist by the media and their teachers.

[frank_one]

Originally Posted by mrmaczaps

Stay in Europe easy pickings... we'll fight for our freedoms here.

Three poor young students were killed. Weird way to fight for your freedom. Teenagers shouldn't have access to guns, never. They are not ready.

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by frank_one

Three poor young students were killed.

Sadly a 4th died of his injuries yesterday.

[Bahamut810]

Originally Posted by frank_one

Three poor young students were killed. Weird way to fight for your freedom. Teenagers shouldn't have access to guns, never. They are not ready.

"Teenagers" should be taught respect for guns, not fear of them or to treat them as some sort of godly takers of life that will get their point across. Add Shooting to PE and let them learn to use the tool.

[frank_one]

Originally Posted by Bahamut810

"Teenagers" should be taught respect for guns, not fear of them or to treat them as some sort of godly takers of life that will get their point across. Add Shooting to PE and let them learn to use the tool.

What? Respect for... guns? For an object? What are you guys even talking about? We need to teach our kids respect for other people, not for guns. Man, that's why America is messed up.

[mrmaczaps]

Originally Posted by frank_one

Three poor young students were killed. Weird way to fight for your freedom. Teenagers shouldn't have access to guns, never. They are not ready.

I've been around guns for 40 years, been bullied but still never shot anyone. The problem is not ours. Its liberals telling little white kids they're racist @ssholes simply for being white. Go pound sand.

[Andrew NDB]

I mean, it's true. You go back a few decades... there was literally gun clubs in junior high/high school in which you would fire guns and learn about gun safety. Even girls would join. Guess how many school shootings back then? Zero.

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by mrmaczaps

I've been around guns for 40 years, been bullied but still never shot anyone. The problem is not ours. Its liberals telling little white kids they're racist @ssholes simply for being white. Go pound sand.

No...the problem is raising kids in a world where they expect participation trophies, applause, attention, and benefits for just existing, and adults failing to teach them how to deal with effing life and its difficulties and disappointments and the right way to handle problems and feelings without deciding that someone needs to die for making them feel bad.

And that isn't at all a specifically "liberal" thing, because raising entitled brats is done by a percentage of parents of all political leanings. After all... here's a boy with Trump loving parents who apparently felt entitled to having daddy buy him a gun at 15 -- and not even make him wait until Christmas as a gift? -- and go on a premeditated shooting spree to end lives seemingly at random.

You keep throwing race in there when that hasn't even come up and, though I'm not sure about the 14-year-old, the other kids who died all look white, so... I mean, maybe aside from their major city, Michigan is otherwise a very white state and given its stats that school is too. Maybe you need to go there and protest white-on-white violence. Because no, excusing a white kid for killing other white kids because meanie liberals allegedly, so claims you and the kinds of sources you pay attention to, tell him AND his victims that they're bad for being white... yeah, that isn't adding up. Again.


edit: Buying a gun that a parent intends to belong to their kid may not be a choice we can stop them from making, but I really feel that legally it should belong to the parent only, until the kid is an adult, and be required to be locked up and inaccessible to a minor who is only ever handling it with parental supervision. Not just hand it to a 15-year-old with total disregard for if he's going to toss it in his backpack and go kill people. And if a parent fails that badly on that front... charge the hell out of them.