Batman V. Superman: Dawn Of Justice

[CyberCubed]

Good. Everyone is seeing this movie for Batman anyway. Superman can take a backseat.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Remember back when we all thought we'd get Man of Steel 2? Sigh...

I remember when we thought were getting Man of Steel 2 with Batman being in it... then they announced the other characters.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Remember back when we all thought we'd get Man of Steel 2? Sigh...

Yuuuupppp!

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Good. Everyone is seeing this movie for Batman anyway. Superman can take a backseat.

Like all of DC's other heroes.

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

I remember when we thought were getting Man of Steel 2 with Batman being in it... then they announced the other characters.

Poor Supes....

[CyberCubed]

If anything Batman should get as much screentime as possible. I actually wish they held off on Wonder Woman for a future film rather than forcing her into this one, simply because she'll eat up screentime when its obvious she'll have a smaller role than Batman and Superman.

This incarnation of Superman isn't even that interesting, so I'd rather see as much Batman as possible. The more Batman, the better.

[MikeandRaph87]

I will always prefer Batman over Superman, but this is a spinoff of Man of Steel which is a Superman film and he is the top hero of the top comic company so Superman should get the most screentime. Its only fair and credit to the greatest caped avenger of all even if Batman surpassed him in popularity over time.

[CyberCubed]

They're still making a Man of Steel 2 anyway, so its not like Superman isn't getting another solo movie.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Remember back when we all thought we'd get Man of Steel 2? Sigh...

We went from Batman is gonna cameo in Man of Steel 2 to this is basically a Batman movie. And Superman is kinda/sorta int it.

[MikeandRaph87]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

They're still making a Man of Steel 2 anyway, so its not like Superman isn't getting another solo movie.

Actually it is on indefinite hold while Superman will be the centerpiece of the DC Cinematic Universe and Dawn of Justice may as welll be considered the sequel.

[Slade]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Good. Everyone is seeing this movie for Batman anyway. Superman can take a backseat.

Go sit down...

[LeotheLateBloomer]

And considering that we're already getting Batman in the Suicide Squad movie, how much more will we get of him in DC's Bat-a-matic Universe?

[CyberCubed]

If anything Batman has been in too few movies over the last decade. Don't forget there was a 4 year gap between the last two Nolan Batman films which DC saw as too long a hiatus.

Ideally the new Batman should have debuted in a movie right after Man of Steel, but since that didn't happen they're using this movie for this new Batman's debut. I want to see this new Batman in about 5 movies or so before they recast again.

[Foombamaroom]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

If anything Batman has been in too few movies over the last decade. Don't forget there was a 4 year gap between the last two Nolan Batman films which DC saw as too long a hiatus.

Ideally the new Batman should have debuted in a movie right after Man of Steel, but since that didn't happen they're using this movie for this new Batman's debut. I want to see this new Batman in about 5 movies or so before they recast again.

Man, now we have to add "Batfanboy" to your résumé.

[sdp]

Well MoS didn't do amazing numbers and Batman guarantees this will be a hit. I'm a bit disappointed since I wanted 50/50 screen time, I mean Batman was already going to bring a lot of people so it'd be a great way for people to grow into superman and they stop untrue/outdated comments like "he's boring/too powerful" since everyone thinks of silverage superman as the superman. While this movie began as MoS2 with a Batman cameo, it evolved into what it is today and at least they no longer call it MoS2 and said that was also in development, it's not like Captain America where it became a Civil War crossover movie but it still counts as "his" movie. I love Batman but I hope he's not shoved into everything in this Universe.

Anyway, I think my hype for this movie can wait a bit, I'll go into SW mode and in january I can begin getting hyped for this movie, I'll be re-watching MoS and watch ArrowS3/Flash/Gotham/TDK Trilogy etc. Until outright contradicted I'll think of all the live action shows in continuity, but I'm guessing they'll be contradicted fairly quickly, Suicide Squad has a different Deadshot for one thing. I'll do the same with TDK Trilogy and that can act as batman's first years, of course some retcons needed.

[Turo602]

I don't get the big deal. Didn't Snyder say that by the end of the film the focus on both characters evens out? I don't mind that the movie has more Batman in the beginning seeing as this is a brand new iteration that we're going to have to get used to. Until I hear that they started cutting Superman scenes in favor of more Batman then I'll be concerned. Even then, I'd hate to see Superman take a back seat as the grand focus of this universe as it was originally stated. Batman being in Suicide Squad doesn't really worry me either as it makes tons of sense for him to be in it and we're still very early into this universe to notice such a shift. I just hope WB doesn't start putting their nose in these movies and changing what Snyder set out to do.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Turo602

I don't get the big deal. Didn't Snyder say that by the end of the film the focus on both characters evens out? I don't mind that the movie has more Batman in the beginning seeing as this is a brand new iteration that we're going to have to get used to. Until I hear that they started cutting Superman scenes in favor of more Batman then I'll be concerned. Even then, I'd hate to see Superman take a back seat as the grand focus of this universe as it was originally stated. Batman being in Suicide Squad doesn't really worry me either as it makes tons of sense for him to be in it and we're still very early into this universe to notice such a shift. I just hope WB doesn't start putting their nose in these movies and changing what Snyder set out to do.

If I might gently remind you, Snyder set out to make Man of Steel 2 way back when.

[Turo602]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

If I might gently remind you, Snyder set out to make Man of Steel 2 way back when.

Yeah, but Man of Steel 2 was always going to have Batman in it and I even recall Snyder saying that he had an idea for MoS to end with Wayne Manor and a crate of Kryptonite. Honestly, Dawn of Justice feels like a natural evolution of a film that only existed by name.

But that's besides the point. What I mean to say is that Snyder's comments don't worry me because it sounds like having more Batman in the beginning of the film was necessary from the get-go. It's what Snyder intended and not something that WB wants him to do after viewing the film like rumors have been suggesting. At least that's how I feel. I know WB can and will most likely screw with stuff in the future, but like I said, I can only hope they don't alter this film, given the fact that it's already done filming.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Turo602

Yeah, but Man of Steel 2 was always going to have Batman in it and I even recall Snyder saying that he had an idea for MoS to end with Wayne Manor and a crate of Kryptonite. Honestly, Dawn of Justice feels like a natural evolution of a film that only existed by name.

But that's besides the point. What I mean to say is that Snyder's comments don't worry me because it sounds like having more Batman in the beginning of the film was necessary from the get-go. It's what Snyder intended and not something that WB wants him to do after viewing the film like rumors have been suggesting. At least that's how I feel. I know WB can and will most likely screw with stuff in the future, but like I said, I can only hope they don't alter this film, given the fact that it's already done filming.

I don't think you're right when you say MoS2 was always going to have Batman in it. But I wasn't hugely paying attention to Man of Steel and its future plans back when it first came out, so I readily admit I could be absolutely wrong.

I feel a little divided; I loved the MoS trailers but when I tried to watch the movie, I turned it off when Pa Kent died. I never went back and gave it a second shot until "Batman V Superman" was announced.

On the one hand, I think they sold out on Superman by making it a team-up road-to-Avengers-sorry-Justice-League movie. On the other hand, I didn't get on board with the current DC slate UNTIL said team-up. Honestly, I'm mainly in it for Wonder Woman, Harley Quinn, and Robin. That's what's got my butt in an opening night theater seat. Looking forward to it all, but those are my draws.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by Turo602

I don't get the big deal. Didn't Snyder say that by the end of the film the focus on both characters evens out?

Yes they did. And since then other people working on the movie have further clarified that. Superman is the singular reason every single thing in this movie happens. Batman obviously has to get a lot of screen time to "catch up", but everything happening in the movie revolves around Superman. His character is the central character of the entire story. They've also gone back again and said they'll probably do another Superman solo film, but not until around 2019... which is exactly what they mumbled a year or so ago. So nothing's really changed there.

People are just very, very selective in their reading comprehension. Then again, they're probably not following this thing as closely as I am.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

http://comicbook.com/2015/09/21/zack...an-of-steel-2/

Just as I thought.

[TurtleTitan97]

Originally Posted by LeotheLateBloomer

http://comicbook.com/2015/09/21/zack...an-of-steel-2/

Just as I thought.

I don't buy that at all.