Star Wars: Episode IX

[sdp]

I keep reading reports about how Ep IX sucks from the people who watched it and whatever but I'm skeptical, it seems some people just want Ep IX to suck because the first two sucked. Now I completely agree but I actually want Ep IX to be decent and somehow redeem even of barely the sequel trilogy.

I just hate seeing all these youtube videos about how much ep ix sucks without actually knowing anything about it, I wish people were more open minded to the movie and try to see it without bias, I can already tell no matter what Ep IX is most of the people writing or making videos about how it'll suck will say it suck.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by sdp

I keep reading reports about how Ep IX sucks from the people who watched it and whatever but I'm skeptical, it seems some people just want Ep IX to suck because the first two sucked. Now I completely agree but I actually want Ep IX to be decent and somehow redeem even of barely the sequel trilogy.

I just hate seeing all these youtube videos about how much ep ix sucks without actually knowing anything about it, I wish people were more open minded to the movie and try to see it without bias, I can already tell no matter what Ep IX is most of the people writing or making videos about how it'll suck will say it suck.

I agree with much of what you've said here. But also there's the lingering "fool me once, it's your fault, fool me twice it's mine" thoughts regarding the content of TLJ. I mean that movie literally told old fans to go away. And what's more is that everyone went in blind and rewarded Disney for it financially.

So for me, it's less about hanging in there as a fan and more about we need our piece of skin back from Disney first and then we can talk about what they can do to redeem Star Wars.

[snake]

Well, from the extremely reputable leaks that are out there- it does, in fact, suck.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by snake

Well, from the extremely reputable leaks that are out there- it does, in fact, suck.

I wish this wasn't true, but it is.

Still, I wonder... it's one thing to read those leaks and poo poo them. It's another to be in the theater watching it unfold with a full, original John Williams score.

[newfan]

I'm not racing out to see this before Christmas, I will just read everyone's spoilers first. Bringing back Palpatine has at least salvaged some interest for me both for the storyline and seeing a familiar face, seen as this is the end of the saga, and few original characters are left.

[Vegita-San]

I have never wanted a movie to fail so completely since Feigbusters.

Disney deserves it on every level for failing every step of the way.

[IMJ]

Talk about wanting a movie to fail, has anyone else notice that all of the leftist shill websites are claiming Knive's Out is an unmitigated success? Sure, it made more money this weekend than I'd have hoped for, but it made 72 million over the weekend on a 40 mil budget and that's before marketing and advertising costs, etc.

But you'll have Forbes resident idiot Scott Mendelson screaming it's a success, but if it wasn't a movie from the liberal-farm he'd be explaining how people rejected the film at the same expense to box office ratio.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by IMJ

Talk about wanting a movie to fail, has anyone else notice that all of the leftist shill websites are claiming Knive's Out is an unmitigated success? Sure, it made more money this weekend than I'd have hoped for, but it made 72 million over the weekend on a 40 mil budget and that's before marketing and advertising costs, etc.

Still, it made more money than anyone was expecting its first weekend. Sadly. Undeservedly. I tend to think it was the deceptive marketing... if they'd marketed it honestly, I think people would have stayed far away. It should flatline this coming weekend, though.

Trump stuff aside, I would have thought the "From the director of Star Wars: The Last Jedi" would have been enough. Are there really people out there that want to give their hand-earned money to this guy, probably improving his chances of being gifted a whole new Star Wars trilogy?

[Sumac]

Knives Out has a strong cast going on, so maybe people went for the actors.
RJ's behavior, however, would make me question my enjoyment of his projects. Usually I have no trouble to separate art and the artist, but RJ acts like a little kid, who is trying to own people who were ******** on him somewhere in the Internet. And all of that because he made a questionable choices for his movie.

He is not Alex Proyas mad right now, but I feel one more push and he might go on a crazy rant about EviL InTerNeT TRollS.

[ZariusTwo]

For those wondering about Finn and Rose

Spoiler:

The Resistance Reborn tie-in reveals they broke up but remain friends

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Sumac

RJ's behavior, however, would make me question my enjoyment of his projects. Usually I have no trouble to separate art and the artist

I don't either. Though when it's a guy that used art -- an actual numerical Star Wars movie, in this case -- as a weaponized thing loaded with an agenda... that's not cool. And that he literally follows up that movie with this movie, which is a big direct anti-Trump statement and admits he made it in reaction to fan reaction to TLJ... c'mon, you've more than used up any leftover good faith from "Looper," buddy.

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

For those wondering about Finn and Rose

Spoiler:

The Resistance Reborn tie-in reveals they broke up but remain friends

Kind of seems like Rose has a pretty small part in the movie. Like, JJ just left her in because of obligation.

[IMJ]

I would say that it scraped by it's budget in ticket sales probably largely due to a concentrated (unorganized) effort by leftist viewers to support it, and then bolstered a bit probably by an older crowd who have no awareness of the whole thing at hand other than "new movie".

But I agree about the drop off. And if that happens, that's even more proof that there was a conscious audience divide of those who purposefully went to see it, and those who purposefully did not.

[Leo656]

It ultimately doesn't matter, though, it's a no-win situation.

If Ep. IX makes lots of money, we'll spend the next couple of years reading about how "progressive" ideas and ignoring the older fans in favor of courting new ones managed to "save" Star Wars. If it doesn't make a ton of money, we'll hear over and over again about "toxic masculinity and spoiled, entitled fanboys killed Star Wars because they're afraid of women."

Disney holds the pen, they own a lot of the relevant media. No matter what happens, they'll create the narrative they want to run with and cram it down everyone's throat. There's really no upside to it.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Leo656

It ultimately doesn't matter, though, it's a no-win situation.

If Ep. IX makes lots of money, we'll spend the next couple of years reading about how "progressive" ideas and ignoring the older fans in favor of courting new ones managed to "save" Star Wars. If it doesn't make a ton of money, we'll hear over and over again about "toxic masculinity and spoiled, entitled fanboys killed Star Wars because they're afraid of women."

Disney holds the pen, they own a lot of the relevant media. No matter what happens, they'll create the narrative they want to run with and cram it down everyone's throat. There's really no upside to it.

This right here. That's exactly what'll happen, either way.

Ya don't fvck with the Mouse House.

[Andrew NDB]

I don't expect to see a lot of agenda in IX. JJ has never really been about that stuff in any movie of his I've seen. He's a movie guy, even if he's like the poor man's hacky version of Spielberg.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I don't expect to see a lot of agenda in IX. JJ has never really been about that stuff in any movie of his I've seen. He's a movie guy, even if he's like the poor man's hacky version of Spielberg.

Agreed, but he's also stuck wrapping up a lot of stuff. He can't undo the way Luke went out in Episode 8, and he's got to make do with whatever Carrie footage he has.

Like I've said before, you know your franchise is fvcked up when Remix Abrams is your lesser of two evils.

[ZariusTwo]

Wayfinder dagger spotted in this tv spot

[Andrew NDB]

Apparently John Boyega believes he is superior to guys like Ewan MacGregor.

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...-a9234301.html

When asked if he'd do more:

"You ain't gonna Disney+ me!" "I'll stay in the feature films."

[AquaParade]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Apparently John Boyega believes he is superior to guys like Ewan MacGregor.

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...-a9234301.html

When asked if he'd do more:

"You ain't gonna Disney+ me!" "I'll stay in the feature films."

I think that's sort of a pointed assumption to make. I mean, maybe you're joking Idk. But that said, I sort of got a similar vibe from Chadwick Boseman when he was asked if he'd do a Disney+ series. Sort of seemed "above it", but I can't say for sure.

Honestly, I have to wonder if you'd be saying that if you even wanted to continue working with Disney. Surely they wouldn't want a big star of theirs out there making statements that make Disney+ look "less than". I've heard working with Disney is pretty damn pleasant though, so I'm really just guessing.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I don't expect to see a lot of agenda in IX. JJ has never really been about that stuff in any movie of his I've seen. He's a movie guy, even if he's like the poor man's hacky version of Spielberg.

*sniff*sniff*sniff*
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...184847278.html

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Apparently John Boyega believes he is superior to guys like Ewan MacGregor.

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...-a9234301.html

When asked if he'd do more:

"You ain't gonna Disney+ me!" "I'll stay in the feature films."

What a doofus.