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*ZariusTwo* · 04-02-2005, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by John 14:6

Really? I thought Sandman was in that series. I've known who he was for a while... I think in the comics at one point he and Hydroman combined into some kind of mud monster.

Oh sure, Sandman was far more popular and well known than Hydro Man in the comics, and they occasionly battled

*Spitfire* · 04-02-2005, 12:18 PM

If I remember Sandman was in Spiderman 2 Electro's Revenge for PS1 and in that game he had alota cool attacks he could do and such with his Sand. I think they still picked someone cool to do. I really cant think of a SPider-man villian I woulnt want to see in a movie
Except like Paste-man and Boomrang gah. Alota people wouldnt want to see Kain or The Jackel either....or Spidercaide but I liked the Clone comic series. I think most people disliked it because Peter gave up being Spider-man and I guess Scarlet Spider-man wasnt cool enough for people. I liked Ben myself but that's just me.

*Brodie* · 04-02-2005, 12:45 PM

If they're gonna waste all that cash on a pretty much CGI villian, why not go the extra ****ing mile and please fans by making it Venom? It just doesn't make sense. With Venom, there's a story, and reason behind what he does. There's the idea of compassion towards Brock cause he is a sad character. I really don't care about Sandman, there's not one arc in a Spider-Man comic where I thought "Oh, God, it's Sandman, he's so complex! How will Spidey get outta this one?!"

He's a thug, who gives a damn?

**** Sandman.

*ZariusTwo* · 04-02-2005, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

If I remember Sandman was in Spiderman 2 Electro's Revenge for PS1 and in that game he had alota cool attacks he could do and such with his Sand. I think they still picked someone cool to do. I really cant think of a SPider-man villian I woulnt want to see in a movie
Except like Paste-man and Boomrang gah. Alota people wouldnt want to see Kain or The Jackel either....or Spidercaide but I liked the Clone comic series. I think most people disliked it because Peter gave up being Spider-man and I guess Scarlet Spider-man wasnt cool enough for people. I liked Ben myself but that's just me.

People hated the Clone Saga because the writers never knew when to END it, Ben became Spider-Man (something nobody wanted to see), and the saga just dragged on until they had to bring back Norman Osborn of all people to kill Reily and establish Peter as Spider-Man again.

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Originally Posted by Brodie

If they're gonna waste all that cash on a pretty much CGI villian, why not go the extra ****ing mile and please fans by making it Venom? It just doesn't make sense. With Venom, there's a story, and reason behind what he does. There's the idea of compassion towards Brock cause he is a sad character. I really don't care about Sandman, there's not one arc in a Spider-Man comic where I thought "Oh, God, it's Sandman, he's so complex! How will Spidey get outta this one?!" .

Blame Raimi, he's a fan of the classic comics and villains, and is throughly against using Venom, it's possible that when he leaves, Hollywood will use Venom used in Spider-Man 4 alongside Carnage.

The only fans that would be pleased are those who only bothered reading the comics in the 90's and watched the animated series, it's far too easy to rely on that character, especially when Kraven the Hunter had a throughly superior storyline in "Fearful Symetary"

*Voltron* · 04-02-2005, 02:09 PM

No, I don't want Carnage. I just want a movie that I can geek out over. Way to ruin it, Raimi.

*ZariusTwo* · 04-02-2005, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Voltron

No, I don't want Carnage. I just want a movie that I can geek out over. Way to ruin it, Raimi.

Let's not judge the movie before it's even filmed

*Voltron* · 04-02-2005, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Let's not judge the movie before it's even filmed

Pffft. But that would be the mature thing to do.

John 14:6 · 04-02-2005, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by raphael_is_cool

But the second film had a load of slow crap at the start...

Yeah, that's where they'd develop the Brock character in the Venom movie

It's kind of funny that there are people who would prefer Venom because of the story aspect that he brings and Sandman doesn't. But that just adds more slow stuff. The only thing I like about that is it gives ,me time to go to the bathroom

Just bring on the special effects!

*ZariusTwo* · 04-02-2005, 05:13 PM

Hey, movies actually used to be about SUBSTANCE rather than STYLE, a superhero film that panders to the latter is'nt a true comic film at all

**Jester** · 04-02-2005, 05:40 PM

Eddie was mentioned in passing in Spidey one...or at least i think it was him....he couldn't get any good shots of Spider-man....thus giving Peter an in...Brock could have been fired from the Bugle in favor of the teenage free-lancer...they coud show that in flash backs...kinda a guy pete never knew who wants to kill him....but again...Venom would take up too much time,. and there are other characters that could hold a movie....

*Brodie* · 04-02-2005, 07:16 PM

If they ever get the balls to do a Venom flick, they should go the route of the Jenkins arc, 'The Hunger.' Where Brock is such a great character, and handled well.

Until then:Venom in Spider-Man 3

*raphael_is_cool* · 04-03-2005, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Hey, movies actually used to be about SUBSTANCE rather than STYLE, a superhero film that panders to the latter is'nt a true comic film at all

But...but...Sin City...

I always figured they could use something like MJ's ex-fiancee, John Jameson, for Venom. Considering he's an astronaut (if I remember rightly) so the symbiote would come out of space and take over him (like Species 2 or something :p ). Then you'd just have to build around him being pissed with Peter Parker and discovering he's Spiderman or something. Just a random idea...

John 14:6 · 04-03-2005, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Hey, movies actually used to be about SUBSTANCE rather than STYLE, a superhero film that panders to the latter is'nt a true comic film at all

That's ok, I prefer the style

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Originally Posted by Jester

Venom would take up too much time

I still have to disagree with this. The FOX series did a good job in about one hour. The movie will have at least twice as long...

*Brodie* · 04-03-2005, 09:55 AM

I disagree with what you said, Zarius, about Rami despising Venom. In various Wizard magazine articles, he's said that Venom is an intriuging character, and he had never said he didn't like Venom. But then again, he also said a while back that he wanted to know what the fans wanted for the next villian.....Looks like he listened real good.

I find it sick and twisted that a guy who made movies like Evil Dead 1, 2 and Army Of Darkness doesn't want to do a movie with a character with such a twisted story, and look, and with a macabre-feel to him. It's nuts.

malignant · 04-03-2005, 10:27 AM

Save Venom for when the movies start to go south and begin to suck. Just look at Batman...

Venom would easily save the franchise.

*ZariusTwo* · 04-03-2005, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by raphael_is_cool

But...but...Sin City.....

That's both

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Originally Posted by malignant

Save Venom for when the movies start to go south and begin to suck. Just look at Batman...

Venom would easily save the franchise.

That's what fans said when Batman and Robin used Bane...

*Duke* · 04-03-2005, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

That's what fans said when Batman and Robin used Bane...

That wasn't the bane i knew.

*ZariusTwo* · 04-03-2005, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Duke

That wasn't the bane i knew.

Precisly.

So when Raimi departs the movies, there is no guarantee that the next producer or director will have been a comics fan, or knows how to handle comic movies and characters

*Brodie* · 04-03-2005, 12:20 PM

Put this image in your head....Zarius' signature on a big screen....Mmmm, striped shirts...

Ya turtkey.

*ZariusTwo* · 04-03-2005, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Brodie

Put this image in your head....Zarius' signature on a big screen....Mmmm, striped shirts...

Ya turtkey.

Sandman has had two coustumes, one being his original clothing, and a far more ridiclous looking armour...

04-02-2005, 12:18 PM	#82
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	If I remember Sandman was in Spiderman 2 Electro's Revenge for PS1 and in that game he had alota cool attacks he could do and such with his Sand. I think they still picked someone cool to do. I really cant think of a SPider-man villian I woulnt want to see in a movie Except like Paste-man and Boomrang gah. Alota people wouldnt want to see Kain or The Jackel either....or Spidercaide but I liked the Clone comic series. I think most people disliked it because Peter gave up being Spider-man and I guess Scarlet Spider-man wasnt cool enough for people. I liked Ben myself but that's just me. __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

04-02-2005, 12:45 PM	#83
Brodie Certified Teacher Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bizarro Metropolis Posts: 6,495	If they're gonna waste all that cash on a pretty much CGI villian, why not go the extra **ing mile and please fans by making it Venom? It just doesn't make sense. With Venom, there's a story, and reason behind what he does. There's the idea of compassion towards Brock cause he is a sad character. I really don't care about Sandman, there's not one arc in a Spider-Man comic where I thought "Oh, God, it's Sandman, he's so complex! How will Spidey get outta this one?!" He's a thug, who gives a damn? ** Sandman. __________________ Stupendous Monster

04-02-2005, 02:09 PM	#85
Voltron Handsomest Boy in School Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The Realm of SJW Posts: 4,642	No, I don't want Carnage. I just want a movie that I can geek out over. Way to ruin it, Raimi. __________________ I AM FOR ACTUAL! . . . and the White Savior. . . and the Right Hand of God. . .

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ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,494	Hey, movies actually used to be about SUBSTANCE rather than STYLE, a superhero film that panders to the latter is'nt a true comic film at all __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

04-02-2005, 05:40 PM	#90
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,301	Eddie was mentioned in passing in Spidey one...or at least i think it was him....he couldn't get any good shots of Spider-man....thus giving Peter an in...Brock could have been fired from the Bugle in favor of the teenage free-lancer...they coud show that in flash backs...kinda a guy pete never knew who wants to kill him....but again...Venom would take up too much time,. and there are other characters that could hold a movie.... __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

04-02-2005, 07:16 PM	#91
Brodie Certified Teacher Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bizarro Metropolis Posts: 6,495	If they ever get the balls to do a Venom flick, they should go the route of the Jenkins arc, 'The Hunger.' Where Brock is such a great character, and handled well. Until then:Venom in Spider-Man 3 __________________ Stupendous Monster

04-03-2005, 09:55 AM	#94
Brodie Certified Teacher Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bizarro Metropolis Posts: 6,495	I disagree with what you said, Zarius, about Rami despising Venom. In various Wizard magazine articles, he's said that Venom is an intriuging character, and he had never said he didn't like Venom. But then again, he also said a while back that he wanted to know what the fans wanted for the next villian.....Looks like he listened real good. I find it sick and twisted that a guy who made movies like Evil Dead 1, 2 and Army Of Darkness doesn't want to do a movie with a character with such a twisted story, and look, and with a macabre-feel to him. It's nuts. __________________ Stupendous Monster

04-03-2005, 10:27 AM	#95
malignant Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Colorado Posts: 383	Save Venom for when the movies start to go south and begin to suck. Just look at Batman... Venom would easily save the franchise. __________________ Currently Playing - went back to playing Prince of Persia SOT (Xbox) Mario Kart (DS) Shredder

04-03-2005, 12:20 PM	#99
Brodie Certified Teacher Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bizarro Metropolis Posts: 6,495	Put this image in your head....Zarius' signature on a big screen....Mmmm, striped shirts... Ya turtkey. __________________ Stupendous Monster