A thing about Leo - Page 5

**Jester** · 09-05-2005, 01:42 AM

Thank you for the help my very eloquent friend.

09-05-2005, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

Where is it you base your logic that this thread is to priase Leo. Why would you praise someone who is acting like an asshole? That makes no sense what so ever. And how can you boost someones rep by showing their downfalls? Leo is all the things Ryo has said. We discussed this over MSN. He is better then his brothers, he knows he is, and with that we know he shows off alot. He's the leader and he knows that so he throws his weight around. Raph was never ment to be leader. That was smashed in "Tales Of Leo" Ryo was trying to show you a side of Leo you might not have noticed that's all. Don't mock her for it.

Thank you, Spitfire.

*sighs* I think this thread has run its course.

Now we're starting to enter the realm of nonsense and spam such as this...

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I really just thought this was a plot to shove Leo onto people who don't take him as their favorite.

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And maybe an attempt by Ryo to force respect for leo that may be lacking in other threads, say the "Favorite TMNT" thread...

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Yeah, but he converted to Raphieism....

Gee, thanks, guys.

What really annoys me is Jester's smug attitude and singing Josh's praises for challanging what I'm saying and agreeing with the things he said and making Raph look good. Obviously Jester is going to side with anyone against me because of personal crap.

Whatever. Nobody likes Leo. Leo is not all that I explain him to be. Leo is just a lousy character who anyone can replace.

There. It's been said.
Now it's time to just get a super mod to lock this thread before it really starts to turn into a pile of crap.

**Jester** · 09-05-2005, 01:53 AM

Since when are a couple of asides the end notes for a thread. We're just saying that for all Leo is, Raph is a foil, and that dynamic makes Leo's leadership shine through...that's all....

*XERO* · 09-05-2005, 02:00 AM

Don't mock yourself like that, Ryona. Leonardo can never be replaced. He's not lousy at all, either.

"Nobody likes Leo?" That's just your anger talking.

People like Leo. IMO, they envy what his character represents because it's probably been done so much. But nobody hates him, at least not to an certain degree.

I salute you for making this thread. You should just understand that you're not going to get a straight statement about Leonardo. His traits just make him too complex, and it's mostly because of us.

I guess that's why he's the leader. Nobody else can handle it like he can.

*Tetsu Deinonychus* · 09-05-2005, 02:02 AM

Frankly, I don't like all this "Older-siblings act like this" talk that all the sides have been showing. I know quite a few families with multiple children and most of them DO NOT HAVE an older sibling that torments and picks-on the younger ones. I always assumed that crap was made up for TV.

People are individuals and form their personalities AS individuals, NOT based on their age realitive to siblings.

Space Lieutenant Josh · 09-05-2005, 02:04 AM

Y'know what, Ryona? This has been a great thread, and has inspired a lot of thoughtful discussion-- way more than most. Not only that, but by reading this, we get to see quite a few different takes on the same character, who I might add is a great, very dynamic character. I don't believe Leo could be replaced by the other turtles and have the team remain the same, either.

It isn't something everyone is going to agree on, but that's what makes it such a great discussion. And I have to say, you definitely made me think about Leo in a different way than I have before, and I'm sure the same thing goes for everyone here. It's all about different perspectives and interpretations.

As far as me making Raph look good, I thought I was just making him look jealous. I was just trying to see things from his point of view.

I think this has been a great thread in terms of inspiring discussions, but it isn't worth having anyone's feelings hurt. People don't always agree on everything, but that's one of the things that makes the world such a diverse place with so many different things to offer. I really did enjoy the thread, Ryona, and having started such a great thread and inspired a very nice 4-page discussion, I don't think there's a reason to be so hard on yourself.

**Jo Dawn** · 09-05-2005, 02:08 AM

I'm gonna lock this thread as per request, and to give everyone a chance to calm down a tad.

And, to reiterate the age issue... straight from Laird's mouth... the ages go:

Leo
Don
Raph
Mike.

The end, no discussion on that. He's said it mutiple times.

That said, thread locked for now.

09-05-2005, 01:42 AM	#81
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,300	Thank you for the help my very eloquent friend. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

09-05-2005, 01:53 AM	#83
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,300	Since when are a couple of asides the end notes for a thread. We're just saying that for all Leo is, Raph is a foil, and that dynamic makes Leo's leadership shine through...that's all.... __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

09-05-2005, 02:00 AM	#84
XERO Hybrid Theorist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Alamo City Posts: 8,185	Don't mock yourself like that, Ryona. Leonardo can never be replaced. He's not lousy at all, either. "Nobody likes Leo?" That's just your anger talking. People like Leo. IMO, they envy what his character represents because it's probably been done so much. But nobody hates him, at least not to an certain degree. I salute you for making this thread. You should just understand that you're not going to get a straight statement about Leonardo. His traits just make him too complex, and it's mostly because of us. I guess that's why he's the leader. Nobody else can handle it like he can. __________________ "Travel at the speed of light... then hit the nitro!"

09-05-2005, 02:02 AM	#85
Tetsu Deinonychus The Iron Dinosaur Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Studio Snowlion HQ Posts: 3,021	Frankly, I don't like all this "Older-siblings act like this" talk that all the sides have been showing. I know quite a few families with multiple children and most of them DO NOT HAVE an older sibling that torments and picks-on the younger ones. I always assumed that crap was made up for TV. People are individuals and form their personalities AS individuals, NOT based on their age realitive to siblings. __________________ (Image hosting by Postimage.org) And here's a list of all my old wacky threads!

09-05-2005, 02:08 AM	#87
Jo Dawn Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Authority On All Things Don Posts: 5,190	I'm gonna lock this thread as per request, and to give everyone a chance to calm down a tad. And, to reiterate the age issue... straight from Laird's mouth... the ages go: Leo Don Raph Mike. The end, no discussion on that. He's said it mutiple times. That said, thread locked for now. __________________

09-05-2005, 02:04 AM	#86
Space Lieutenant Josh Hench Mutant Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Village of Rock'n Kick-Ass Posts: 492	Y'know what, Ryona? This has been a great thread, and has inspired a lot of thoughtful discussion-- way more than most. Not only that, but by reading this, we get to see quite a few different takes on the same character, who I might add is a great, very dynamic character. I don't believe Leo could be replaced by the other turtles and have the team remain the same, either. It isn't something everyone is going to agree on, but that's what makes it such a great discussion. And I have to say, you definitely made me think about Leo in a different way than I have before, and I'm sure the same thing goes for everyone here. It's all about different perspectives and interpretations. As far as me making Raph look good, I thought I was just making him look jealous. I was just trying to see things from his point of view. I think this has been a great thread in terms of inspiring discussions, but it isn't worth having anyone's feelings hurt. People don't always agree on everything, but that's one of the things that makes the world such a diverse place with so many different things to offer. I really did enjoy the thread, Ryona, and having started such a great thread and inspired a very nice 4-page discussion, I don't think there's a reason to be so hard on yourself.