Sinking ratings, is nostalgia not working?

[ssjup81]

So, out of curiosity, could anyone here confirm the junk I said here? I'm not in the US as most know, so I'm not sure if what I said was on point or not and even if I were home, my family no longer has Nickelodeon as a station.

Originally Posted by ssjup81

I still feel that the inconsistent times and the breaks have a lot to do with it, along with the fact that people view a lot of media online these days, where ratings aren't accounted for.

I know I mentioned this before. Didn't you all say that sometimes they would change the time of the program or when it goes into a break, they don't just air the 2k12 show in that slot? To me that's just unusual. I used Rugrats as an example before.

Back then, during its first run, Rugrats was "canceled", so to speak, and they just constantly played reruns. During its hiatus, it garnered its popularity, hence new eps were made. Even though Rugrats didn't have any new episodes at that time, it still kept its primary time slot. I knew that if I tuned in on that day at that time, Rugrats would be on, regardless if it was a rerun or not. I don't think this show does that (you guys have to tell me). One time you guys said they pre-empted this show for frickin' Full House! Geez....

How can people tune in for the show if it's not shown at a consistent time all the time or every week? I know for me, if I was watching this show (or any show) as a kid, and they kept changing up how it was shown, I would just stop watching due to forgetting when it comes on since it changes and isn't consistent.

The show also isn't promoted much, right? You guys have to inform me of this one. If it's not being properly promoted, how can people tune in to watch it?

Other problem...many people can just watch the show (along with other things) online now. It's not like how it was years ago where your only choice was to either watch it when it aired or just hope for a rerun of what you missed on TV.

Other issue...people are losing interest, but that goes for any show over a course of time, but I feel that a lot of factors aid to why this show's ratings have dropped.

[Prototype]

Originally Posted by TMNachoT

I´m not interested in this show, don´t like it. This has been my opinion since the middle of the first season.

That's my oppinion on every other TMNT-cartoon, movie and comic.

I never liked turtles, untill I found the Nick-series. It's the only TMNT show I enjoy. (I like the Nick-TMNT toys to ofc)

The rest is crap or uninteresting to me.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by Powder

Be that as it may, barring a few exceptions, I've never known TMNT to be of particular fondness to traditionally Christian parents. Violence, eastern spiritual themes, etc. They drummed up a lot of controversy back in the day, as I'm sure you recall. In my experience, kids raised under strong faith were typically not allowed to watch it. Maybe today's Christian parents are different, I dunno.

Speaking from my own experience, I never saw much concern over the TMNT franchise in my own circles back in the day. I'm a Christian of the very conservative sort, and I always have been. It was my impression that things like Dungeons & Dragons, Harry Potter, and even Pokemon evoked far more concern from American Christian parents. Despite the presence of some notable anti-TMNT books penned from Christian writers like Joan Hake Robie (who helped Colonel Sanders write his own biography, BTW), I never even heard of those kind of books until after the internet age caught on. That makes me think they never really caught on it most Christian circles. My uber-conservative Christian parents totally gave me just about every TMNT thing I can remember for birthdays, Christmases, or as a treat at the grocery store.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by shredder orokusaki

How does Nickelodeon makes profit from tv ratings? They take money from the sales of toys and DVDS but how can high ratings bring profit? You dont have to pay to watch Nickelodeon on your tv

OMG.... this.... this is the first time you ever posted as yourself and not the Shredder..... I.... I don't even know how to react.... I can't even....

[Powder]

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

Speaking from my own experience, I never saw much concern over the TMNT franchise in my own circles back in the day. I'm a Christian of the very conservative sort, and I always have been. It was my impression that things like Dungeons & Dragons, Harry Potter, and even Pokemon evoked far more concern from American Christian parents. Despite the presence of some notable anti-TMNT books penned from Christian writers like Joan Hake Robie (who helped Colonel Sanders write his own biography, BTW), I never even heard of those kind of books until after the internet age caught on. That makes me think they never really caught on it most Christian circles. My uber-conservative Christian parents totally gave me just about every TMNT thing I can remember for birthdays, Christmases, or as a treat at the grocery store.

Archie's fan letters section seems to deal with this a lot, "Dean" was catching a lot of heat for that iteration, at least.

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

OMG.... this.... this is the first time you ever posted as yourself and not the Shredder..... I.... I don't even know how to react.... I can't even....

He's made others.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by Powder

Archie's fan letters section seems to deal with this a lot, "Dean" was catching a lot of heat for that iteration, at least.

Oh, yeah, definitely. As I remember it though, most of the concern letters to "Dean" actually came from kids reading the comics who probably recognized that the religious and philosophical themes explored in the book were different than the core beliefs of Christianity. I recognized that too, but I always thought the comic dealt with it in an interesting way. If there were a ton of angry parents writing into the book, I can't remember them.

I don't think Murph's exploration of pluarlism ever became a notable issue for most parents, however, because the Archie Comics were read by a much smaller percentage of kids who would have watched the cartoons, movies, and begged their parents for merchandise.

But you know Joan Hake Robie would have had a field day with another book if she had ever bothered to read those mid-to-late run Archie issues!

[Groverman62]

This show is sinking in ratings because its just not really good anymore.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Groverman62

This show is sinking in ratings because its just not really good anymore.

Except this is false, both ways. Kids watching the show now may not even have seen the earlier seasons, and the quality of the show is the same as its always been.

[ABrown]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

and the quality of the show is the same as its always been.

Unfortunately, that's true. The quality is the same as its always been.

[ssjup81]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

OMG.... this.... this is the first time you ever posted as yourself and not the Shredder..... I.... I don't even know how to react.... I can't even....

What do you mean? He's posted as himself many times.

[Rukitron]

When we get the inevitable 202X reboot. I just hope they stay far far far far far far away from using the movie designs as an influence. Also would be nice if they go back to 2d.

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by Rukitron

When we get the inevitable 202X reboot. I just hope they stay far far far far far far away from using the movie designs as an influence. Also would be nice if they go back to 2d.

I would personally bet on the reboot happening before 2020.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by shredder orokusaki

It is because there are a lot more peolle nowdays who watch shows online on their pc than on TV. Thanks to the internet we dont need to watch it at the timre it plays on tv. When 2003 and 1987 shows aired you couldnt find the episodes on the internet. Nowdays evry new episode of a show(any show not just TMNT) can be watched for free on the internet at the same day that it plays on TV. I am sure Nick cares more about the sales of episodes on Itunes than the ratings on TV. That because they dont make any money from high ratings/people who watch it on tv but they make lot of money from the people who buy it from Itunes. Do you understand it? It is and will always be the best action adventure show ever. Nothing can beat tmnt

2003 was on the Internet. Maybe not the first years, but later. Youtube for example started in May 2005 but there were probably some other ways to get it online already in 2003-2004.

[AnarkyLantern]

RE: the Christian thing. When the original show was on, I spent summers near my grandma's place in Florida and there was this tv ad I saw there once warning against "Asian themes" in cartoons- complete with audio from Tmnt.

Nickelodeon has had trouble with ratings in recent years but there's also a move away from the action half hour. I wouldn't be surprised if the next Tmnt show uses the 11 minute episode format like Adventure Time, Steven Universe, Titans go and the upcoming JLAction.

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by AnarkyLantern

RE: the Christian thing. When the original show was on, I spent summers near my grandma's place in Florida and there was this tv ad I saw there once warning against "Asian themes" in cartoons- complete with audio from Tmnt.

Whoa! That's seems a borderline racist.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Or this

http://tmntentity.blogspot.se/2011/0...a-turtles.html

So, when was Krang the spiritual leader of Shredder and in a demonic-like figure? Krang is an extraterrestrial from Dimension X inside a robot.

Learn first, critizise then!

[Utrommaniac]

Originally Posted by Original TMNT Cartoon Fan

Or this

http://tmntentity.blogspot.se/2011/0...a-turtles.html

So, when was Krang the spiritual leader of Shredder and in a demonic-like figure? Krang is an extraterrestrial from Dimension X inside a robot.

Learn first, critizise then!

Well...you wouldn't be wrong in IDW's Secret History of the Foot Clan. Krang was certainly considered a demon to the point that it was in the name he was given. Except for the spiritual leader part.

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by Original TMNT Cartoon Fan

Or this

http://tmntentity.blogspot.se/2011/0...a-turtles.html

So, when was Krang the spiritual leader of Shredder and in a demonic-like figure? Krang is an extraterrestrial from Dimension X inside a robot.

Learn first, critizise then!

I wonder how certain bible passages would turn out if you replaced "God" with "Krang"...

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

I can't recall any such letter to the Swedish letters column of the Archie Comics.

[Powder]

Originally Posted by neatoman

I wonder how certain bible passages would turn out if you replaced "God" with "Krang"...

I'd read that.