Thoughts on Old Toon April? - Page 5

*gobo* · 10-02-2006, 03:55 PM

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mudkipz

Wha???

*Dr. Doom* · 10-02-2006, 04:03 PM

Talkin' bout MUDKIPZ

**GK Punk** · 10-02-2006, 07:00 PM

It's like /b/'s old jokes are new again

**Jo Dawn** · 10-02-2006, 10:38 PM

I loathed old toon April. In fact, I didn't like her until the movies, really. I thought she was a bimbo.

I didn't like how she was so... just, the story was FIRST. I dunno. I'm sleepy. No coherent thoughts...

*oldmanwinters* · 10-03-2006, 11:02 PM

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I didn't like how she was so... just, the story was FIRST...

Appartently this is the logical result of the 1980's "independent woman" push. http://www.geocities.com/tmntdissected/april.htm

On Catwoman from Channel Six:
http://www.geocities.com/tmntdissected/CFC6.htm
April's reckless, Raphael's a chauvinist, and Irma's desperate.

I know this site has been mentioned before, but it's still hilarious!

*Warhorse* · 10-09-2006, 09:35 PM

I grew up on the old Turtle cartoons, and so am a great fan of the old April. Her personality was very much like Michealangelo's in my opinion. Happy go lucky, easy to get along with.

I also like her much better as a reporter than a lab tech. After the movies and the old cartoons, the novels that I have read with April O' Neil as a reporter, the new April, to me, just carries the name. She isn't the real April, just another entitiy enitirely. And I wish they'd have her decide to have a career change, and go back to the news.

comet_an_me · 10-10-2006, 12:52 PM

[/QUOTE] She isn't the real April, just another entitiy enitirely. And I wish they'd have her decide to have a career change, and go back to the news.[/QUOTE]

well shes no longer in the new tmnt season as shes dead lol so you ll have to just keep on wishin unfortunatly

**Jo Dawn** · 10-10-2006, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Warhorse

I also like her much better as a reporter than a lab tech. After the movies and the old cartoons, the novels that I have read with April O' Neil as a reporter, the new April, to me, just carries the name. She isn't the real April, just another entitiy enitirely. And I wish they'd have her decide to have a career change, and go back to the news.

Of course she's the real April. April wasn't a repoerter in the original comics. The OT April and the movie Aprils weren't the real April.

...But of course, they WERE the 'real' Aprils for their respect universes! So there we go.

Anyhow, I hated her as the reporter. I'd much rather have her be the Lab Tech. For mulitple, multiple reasons.

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I grew up on the old Turtle cartoons, and so am a great fan of the old April. Her personality was very much like Michealangelo's in my opinion. Happy go lucky, easy to get along with.

I don't entirely agree with that; I rather thought her personality was sweet when she wanted something, but she was ready to push you aside for a story. But hey, whatever. That time's over.

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well shes no longer in the new tmnt season as shes dead lol so you ll have to just keep on wishin unfortunatly

Yeah, too right or what! :/

*Dr. Doom* · 10-10-2006, 04:59 PM

Honestly Jo, I think you're looking into the old toon way too deeply when it was in fact an incredibly shallow show (at least that's how it comes across to me now). The personalities were all incredibly 1 dimensional so for her to be acting in such a way is probably overanalyzing it. But then again I haven't watched any of the old toon in years and have been vocally uninterested in it for a while now, so I could certainly be wrong.

**Jo Dawn** · 10-10-2006, 05:44 PM

That's also true about it! Which is probably another thing I, erm... wasn't happy with. I like deeper, fully developed characters.

Again, though, if people are going to give a deeper thought to this, so am I, if only to give my opinions, also.

*Sage Ninja* · 10-11-2006, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Doom

Honestly Jo, I think you're looking into the old toon way too deeply when it was in fact an incredibly shallow show (at least that's how it comes across to me now). The personalities were all incredibly 1 dimensional so for her to be acting in such a way is probably overanalyzing it. But then again I haven't watched any of the old toon in years and have been vocally uninterested in it for a while now, so I could certainly be wrong.

here we go again. I'm sick of the fact that people keep calling this series shallow. It was ment to be light and funny, with the occassinal sprinkling of angnyst and emotion. Check episodes like Beware the Lotus and Michaelangelo's birthday to see the characters actually display some actual emotion. ANd they did grow and change by the end of the series. For its time it was pretty up there and doesn't desever to be compared to more mature themed shows of today that are geared toward a more sophisticated youth than we where back in the day.

*Mr._Mutant_Man* · 10-29-2006, 05:14 PM

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When it comes to age, the new April is my age, 23, and a fresh college grad, also like me. And I'm into computers (well graphics and alittle web design) and she's into computers (programming). So I'd say I have more in common with the new April.

However the old April is supposted to be 25, or at least that's what the back of the figure box said, "A young 25", whatever that means. In the game it said she was 27, and in one 1989 ep she referred to herself as remaining a 28-year old hag when she found out she couldn't enter the pool of youth.

The old April was kind of vain I guess.

I remember the back of the figure box and her weight changed a few times. The original was just 115 IIRC, then a later one was 105 w/ pad and pencil, and the ninja one was like 105...we think...she won't tell us.

*ZariusTwo* · 10-29-2006, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Doom

Honestly Jo, I think you're looking into the old toon way too deeply when it was in fact an incredibly shallow show (at least that's how it comes across to me now). The personalities were all incredibly 1 dimensional so for her to be acting in such a way is probably overanalyzing it. But then again I haven't watched any of the old toon in years and have been vocally uninterested in it for a while now, so I could certainly be wrong.

Oh you would be. Of course all that pent up anger from Doom never getting a good animated interpretation may be fuelling your aggresion

(Flashes of the 90's Fantastic Four)

...It just occured to me that "Reporter April" could have been parentless and therefore void of a real moral guide, several realities may have a version of April that "bled" into one of them when the instability of the Kirby Drawings tore them from their parents...except the "original" April

So out there now exists about three shallow April O'Neils

**Jo Dawn** · 10-29-2006, 05:42 PM

Though, Doom, I have to say that those were always my thoughts on her, even as a younger me watching the show. So I'm not sure how much 'over thinking was done there, heh. But who knows?

And Zarius... Hehe, I had to read that through a few times, but a very interesting theory! (Tongue in cheek, is it? Or no?)

*Sage Ninja* · 10-31-2006, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jo Dawn

I loathed old toon April. In fact, I didn't like her until the movies, really. I thought she was a bimbo.

I didn't like how she was so... just, the story was FIRST. I dunno. I'm sleepy. No coherent thoughts...

I liked classic toon April because she was spunky and didn't take crap from any one. I still marval at how even when she was being kidnapped and man handled and trussed up like an animal, that she could still back talk and sass her kidnappers with out flinching.

I really love the interaction between the Rat King and April when he kidnapps her for the first time, especially the scene where he offers her something to eat and she kicks it out his hands

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She was tottally going all bitch on him, insulting him, and defying him--and he was a mad man who talked to rats!! And she was still giving him attitude. You know the show really missed out on the whole Rat King has the hots for April bit. I think they could have made an interesting plot angle with that, since their interaction where so amusing, and hot! but I guess they wouldn't want to go there in a kids cartoon

The only thing I regret about old toon April is that I wish the show had let her learn how to fight. She definatlely had the spunk and the guts to be a good one and she alreadsy had alot of skills that would have made her a good fighter.

*Mr._Mutant_Man* · 10-31-2006, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sage Ninja

I liked classic toon April because she was spunky and didn't take crap from any one. I still marval at how even when she was being kidnapped and man handled and trussed up like an animal, that she could still back talk and sass her kidnappers with out flinching.

I really love the interaction between the Rat King and April when he kidnapps her for the first time, especially the scene where he offers her something to eat and she kicks it out his hands

.

She was tottally going all bitch on him, insulting him, and defying him--and he was a mad man who talked to rats!! And she was still giving him attitude. You know the show really missed out on the whole Rat King has the hots for April bit. I think they could have made an interesting plot angle with that, since their interaction where so amusing, and hot! but I guess they wouldn't want to go there in a kids cartoon

The only thing I regret about old toon April is that I wish the show had let her learn how to fight. She definatlely had the spunk and the guts to be a good one and she alreadsy had alot of skills that would have made her a good fighter.

April with a sword? I guess I could see that.

Are the Rat King episodes on DVD yet? I need to catch up, I'm only up to volume 2 I think.

*Sage Ninja* · 10-31-2006, 01:52 PM

Yes they are on DVD, they are in the season three volumes, though off hand I don't know which one...volume four I think.

Did any body think that April led a very diffrent life before she became a news reporter? I mean the girl had some skills, she could drive a large van and avoid missils being shot directly at her (season one) she could drive a mortor cycle, and she could pick up a gun and shoot (in the sniper postion) with dead on accuracy. Now are we supposed to believe that she didn't live some sort of militant life before she met up with the turtles. Something isn't right here.

*oldmanwinters* · 10-31-2006, 04:10 PM

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Did any body think that April led a very diffrent life before she became a news reporter? . . . Now are we supposed to believe that she didn't live some sort of militant life before she met up with the turtles. Something isn't right here.

Separated at birth?

*gobo* · 10-31-2006, 04:44 PM

That pic is rather small. Is that... Lady Jay??

*oldmanwinters* · 10-31-2006, 04:45 PM

Sorry, it showed up small originally. I enlarged it for clarity. And yes, that is Lady J. of G. I. Joe fame.

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Jo Dawn Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Authority On All Things Don Posts: 5,190	I loathed old toon April. In fact, I didn't like her until the movies, really. I thought she was a bimbo. I didn't like how she was so... just, the story was FIRST. I dunno. I'm sleepy. No coherent thoughts... __________________

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Dr. Doom Allons-y! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Castle Doom Posts: 4,535	Honestly Jo, I think you're looking into the old toon way too deeply when it was in fact an incredibly shallow show (at least that's how it comes across to me now). The personalities were all incredibly 1 dimensional so for her to be acting in such a way is probably overanalyzing it. But then again I haven't watched any of the old toon in years and have been vocally uninterested in it for a while now, so I could certainly be wrong. __________________ I love you, Pickle.

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Jo Dawn Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Authority On All Things Don Posts: 5,190	That's also true about it! Which is probably another thing I, erm... wasn't happy with. I like deeper, fully developed characters. Again, though, if people are going to give a deeper thought to this, so am I, if only to give my opinions, also. __________________

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Warhorse Emperor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 5,544	I grew up on the old Turtle cartoons, and so am a great fan of the old April. Her personality was very much like Michealangelo's in my opinion. Happy go lucky, easy to get along with. I also like her much better as a reporter than a lab tech. After the movies and the old cartoons, the novels that I have read with April O' Neil as a reporter, the new April, to me, just carries the name. She isn't the real April, just another entitiy enitirely. And I wish they'd have her decide to have a career change, and go back to the news.

10-29-2006, 05:42 PM	#94
Jo Dawn Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Authority On All Things Don Posts: 5,190	Though, Doom, I have to say that those were always my thoughts on her, even as a younger me watching the show. So I'm not sure how much 'over thinking was done there, heh. But who knows? And Zarius... Hehe, I had to read that through a few times, but a very interesting theory! (Tongue in cheek, is it? Or no?) __________________

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Sage Ninja Band of the Hawk Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: USA Posts: 3,924	Yes they are on DVD, they are in the season three volumes, though off hand I don't know which one...volume four I think. Did any body think that April led a very diffrent life before she became a news reporter? I mean the girl had some skills, she could drive a large van and avoid missils being shot directly at her (season one) she could drive a mortor cycle, and she could pick up a gun and shoot (in the sniper postion) with dead on accuracy. Now are we supposed to believe that she didn't live some sort of militant life before she met up with the turtles. Something isn't right here. __________________ Cassandra: You won't fight me, but will you fight--for him! Cassandra's Revenge ~Tangled the Series ________________________________ http://frankviola.org/2012/01/30/godsviewofawoman/ _______________________________ http://nox-artemis.tumblr.com/post/4...k-and-feminism

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