WandaVision

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

And as a last point of reference, there was even a DRUG that was made using mutant growth hormones, aka MGH, that became a threat akin to mixing steroids, meth, and ecstasy! It gave normal humans temporary powers based on the mutant the MGH came from, but the cost was that some of them came from mutants whose powers were involuntary or hard to control, or were part of their physical bodies, which led to a bunch of deaths and serious injuries.

Yeah..... I would not want the Marrow MGH and def keep the Maggot MGH away from me.

[ZariusTwo]

New trailer

[AquaParade]

Fourth episode: pretty good.
Satisfying revelations but a little too much exposition and groundwork being laid all at once. It was a bit exhausting by the end, probably in part because the dialogue isn't riveting enough for all the ground they have to cover. Which I admit, is a tall order.
I'm still all in on the show. Enjoying it.

[ZariusTwo]

Footage from a later episode is presently leaking on Youtube, reddit, twitter etc, so tread carefully

If you want the gist of it

Spoiler:

It's from the one that's set around Halloween, Vision bursts through the barrier into the world outside Westview, telling S.W.O.R.D that the people inside Westview need help. Wanda's twins are now older, also the X-Films' Evan Peters does indeed show up, Wanda attacks him after he jokes about Vision dying

[Vicky82]

I've been watching it and enjoying it.

I wonder if any other Avengers will get involved in this.

Because I assume this happens round about the same time as Spiderman Far from Home. I partly remember a scene when Spiderman asking if anyone else could do the mission but end up being not available.

Thor - off world
Miss Marvel - unavailable

Can't remember if any other names mentioned though.

But i'm thinking that maybe Miss Marvel or someone else could end up appearing in Wandavision.

[Andrew NDB]

Yeah, episode 4 was a hell of a thing. Nice to see them cobble all these minor characters from Thor, Ant-Man, etc..

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Yeah..... I would not want the Marrow MGH and def keep the Maggot MGH away from me.

Lol Or Blob. Jeebus, what happened to that poor guy on M Day.... But just imagine getting Angel's MGH, and then having it wear off mid-flight! That was just one of the horrible effects that were happening. One guy turned his arm to stone, and then it got shattered or something. And wore off shortly after....

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

Lol Or Blob. Jeebus, what happened to that poor guy on M Day.... But just imagine getting Angel's MGH, and then having it wear off mid-flight! That was just one of the horrible effects that were happening. One guy turned his arm to stone, and then it got shattered or something. And wore off shortly after....

OMG no.

That's the one thing I always wondered about Colossus. Was his skin just flat out invincible? Like if during a fight with some super strong mutant, I got a few dents on my armor, I'd be afraid to turn back to normal form until I figured out some way to smooth those out. I don't want to know how those would 'translate' to flesh and blood.

[Andrew NDB]

So a few days ago Bettany said there's a top secret top level appearance by an actor (yes, male) on WandaVision, someone who he's always wanted to work with.

https://www.slashfilm.com/wandavisio...-paul-bettany/

He can't be talking about Evan Peters because, well... I like the guy, but let's be honest, nobody is going around saying "I really wish I could one day work with Evan Peters!" Particularly someone like Paul Bettany.

Any over/unders from folks on who you think it'll end up being?

If we take the

Spoiler:

Evan Peters showing up on the show as a clue, which yes, you can go online and watch

then...

Spoiler:

we know the Fox-Men universe is on the table. I've read a fairly recent interview with Patrick Stewart in which he admitted Feige asked him if he wanted to "come back" as Xavier and he turned him down, because of Logan, so it isn't him. Fassbender as Magneto? McKellen? The familial ties to Wanda would make sense, maybe. Though I DO recall Jackman saying in one of the many "Won't you play Wolverine again!?" dumb interviews that he WOULD play Wolverine again, as long as he could take on the Avengers. This could... kind of be that?

[ZariusTwo]

Well, as of Wandavision episode five

Spoiler:

Peters is a 'recast' Quicksilver. Time will tell if he exhibits powers at some point next week, or if he's only there for a couple of episodes

[NinjaPug]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Well, as of Wandavision episode five

Spoiler:

Peters is a 'recast' Quicksilver. Time will tell if he exhibits powers at some point next week, or if he's only there for a couple of episodes

Spoiler:

Should we assume she recast QS by reaching across the multiverse to pull him in? I'm hoping that's the case and he's not a random guy and they're just using the Fox actor as a swerve.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

Spoiler:

Should we assume she recast QS by reaching across the multiverse to pull him in? I'm hoping that's the case and he's not a random guy and they're just using the Fox actor as a swerve.

Spoiler:

That's why it's crucial to find out if he has powers or not next week I think...but yeah, given this series ties into the Doctor Strange sequel where the multiverse is a major factor, I can't see that being ruled out in favour of a tease

[NinjaPug]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Spoiler:

That's why it's crucial to find out if he has powers or not next week I think...but yeah, given this series ties into the Doctor Strange sequel where the multiverse is a major factor, I can't see that being ruled out in favour of a tease

Spoiler:

Wanda's comment about how she has a brother "far away" makes me think this is the Fox QS being pulled through the multiverse by whoever is really in control of this.

[Leo656]

Spoiler:

So wait, after all the hullabaloo about "How is Disney gonna work in the X-Men for the MCU?"... in the end they're just gonna "swipe" them from the Fox Universe and drop them into this one?

God, I hope not. That'd be like one of the dumbest possible ways they could do that. Makes it feel like they really want the X-Men in the MCU but just don't wanna do the work of re-establishing them from the ground up all over again. "Fox already did the work, let's just use the Exact Same X-Men." Wooof.
Nah. For one thing, objectively those were some pretty crappy X-Men and the MCU reboot is a chance for a clean slate. That's what I was hoping for. There's just about nothing from the FoX-Men universe I'd wanna keep except maybe one or two actors. Maybe not even that. I'd junk absolutely everything else.

Hopefully just transplanting FoX-Men into the MCU is not what they do. But I can definitely see them doing that.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Spoiler:

So wait, after all the hullabaloo about "How is Disney gonna work in the X-Men for the MCU?"... in the end they're just gonna "swipe" them from the Fox Universe and drop them into this one?

God, I hope not. That'd be like one of the dumbest possible ways they could do that. Makes it feel like they really want the X-Men in the MCU but just don't wanna do the work of re-establishing them from the ground up all over again. "Fox already did the work, let's just use the Exact Same X-Men." Wooof.
Nah. For one thing, objectively those were some pretty crappy X-Men and the MCU reboot is a chance for a clean slate. That's what I was hoping for. There's just about nothing from the FoX-Men universe I'd wanna keep except maybe one or two actors. Maybe not even that. I'd junk absolutely everything else.

Hopefully just transplanting FoX-Men into the MCU is not what they do. But I can definitely see them doing that.

Absolutely agree with that. Ugh, this would be terrible.

I mean, it'd be pretty fascinating from a logistics point of view. (How little work can they put in to get their desired outcome?) But in terms of character, continuity, and story... UGH.

[Andrew NDB]

Spoiler:

I'm not too worried about that. While they might sprinkle some Fox-Men stuff, we still have to get a proper X-Men in the MCU.

For example, if they use the Fox-Men... their last appearance was in the 1990s, in Dark Phoenix. The MCU is currently set in the year 2025 or so. Pietro and Cyclops and so on would be like 80 years old. It wouldn't work and it wouldn't be worth it to try.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Spoiler:

I'm not too worried about that. While they might sprinkle some Fox-Men stuff, we still have to get a proper X-Men in the MCU.

For example, if they use the Fox-Men... their last appearance was in the 1990s, in Dark Phoenix. The MCU is currently set in the year 2025 or so. Pietro and Cyclops and so on would be like 80 years old. It wouldn't work and it wouldn't be worth it to try.

Spoiler:

Andrew, if the MCU decides to handwave things and just bring in Fox-Men in lieu of their own X-Men, they would absolutely handwave things and skip or ignore the age thing. That's a very small hurdle after the hurdle of "fuck it, just bring over the Fox-Men. Don't care how you do it or if it makes sense, just do it."

Not saying it WILL happen. The MCU absolutely plays hardball and for keeps, and I can't imagine them settling for another franchise's take on characters.

But if they did, they wouldn't let a little thing like that stop them.

[neatoman]

Alright, so...

Spoiler:

... Is it safe to assume that Evan Peters is not literally playing the version of Quicksilver as he did in the Fox movies? Like, maybe he's from an alternate reality and maybe he joined the X-Men, but at the same he did not necessarily rescue Magneto to prevent the assassination of Bolivar Trask or stop Apocalypse from nuking the world. Allegedly Alfred Molina and Jamie Foxx are not literally returning as their characters from SM2 and ASM2, just alternate universe versions of themselves.

Although...

Spoiler:

If we assume he is indeed an alternate universe version of Pietro, why does he look different? If they are indeed reflections of the same person, they should be genetically identical and look more or less the same. Otherwise they would be different people with the same name and powers, which is weird. And if he is indeed the Fox depiction of Quicksilver, why would their backstories be so different?

Let's just assume the physical differences don't matter and that MCU Pietro is also the son of Magneto, just to minimise the problems. What about all the other differences?

Why is there a 40 age difference?
Why is one of them a twin and not the other?
Why are their nationalities different?
Why do they have different origins for their powers?

Of course...

Spoiler:

Peters could just be some guy swept up in Wanda's fake reality just like everyone else and this is just a casting gag.

In short, I'm not so sure it's a good idea to present different adaptations as being part of a multiverse, it could easily open up a bigger can of worms than what one might initially suspect.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by neatoman

Alright, so...

Spoiler:

... Is it safe to assume that Evan Peters is not literally playing the version of Quicksilver as he did in the Fox movies? Like, maybe he's from an alternate reality and maybe he joined the X-Men, but at the same he did not necessarily rescue Magneto to prevent the assassination of Bolivar Trask or stop Apocalypse from nuking the world. Allegedly Alfred Molina and Jamie Foxx are not literally returning as their characters from SM2 and ASM2, just alternate universe versions of themselves.

Although...

Spoiler:

If we assume he is indeed an alternate universe version of Pietro, why does he look different? If they are indeed reflections of the same person, they should be genetically identical and look more or less the same. Otherwise they would be different people with the same name and powers, which is weird. And if he is indeed the Fox depiction of Quicksilver, why would their backstories be so different?

Let's just assume the physical differences don't matter and that MCU Pietro is also the son of Magneto, just to minimise the problems. What about all the other differences?

Why is there a 40 age difference?
Why is one of them a twin and not the other?
Why are their nationalities different?
Why do they have different origins for their powers?

Of course...

Spoiler:

Peters could just be some guy swept up in Wanda's fake reality just like everyone else and this is just a casting gag.

In short, I'm not so sure it's a good idea to present different adaptations as being part of a multiverse, it could easily open up a bigger can of worms than what one might initially suspect.

Hoping for casting gag. It'd make the most sense.

But it also makes you wonder why Marvel decided to screw over the REAL guy. You know who.

[Autbot_Benz]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Hoping for casting gag. It'd make the most sense.

But it also makes you wonder why Marvel decided to screw over the REAL guy. You know who.

Easy Aaron Taylor Johnson was forgettable as Quicksilver Evan Peters stole the show in the fox-men films he was in. Well that's my opinion anyway