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Gay pride
gay pride month is happening now, can’t overlook it when every major corporation has decorated their logos with rainbows. it used to be it’s own thing where most people just like “ahh whatever, let them have their parade” i really didn’t care about it, but now they are desperately trying to make it mainstream.
do you think it’s bigoted how it’s called gay pride month, instead of lgbtqia+ month, cause the term “gay” mainly focuses on cisgendered homosexual men, right? what about the other members of that community, lesbians, transgenders etc, shouldn’t they be represented? however i think they are taking things a bit far this year, the left is trying to normalize “drag shows for kids” and schools are forcefully indoctrinating a lgbtqia+ woke agenda on their students wtf? for the .01%. how have times changed to this extremism? like they’re trying to force kids to be transgender, it’s sickening, nothing against transgenders, but they shouldn’t be forcing that ideology on kids, let them decide on their own. wow didn’t know the left was so hell bent on abolishing the nuclear family, it’s bigoted. the left claims to be the party of love and diversity, stand with ukraine, they love their muslim neighbors etc. even though muslims hate gays, the left will quickly label you bigoted and islamaphobic if you speak out against the barbaric practices of the muslim taliban. but what happens when 2 woke ideologies collide?
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Anyway, back on topic. I may or may not be roasted for this here. Though I think banning all education and talk of homosexuality is excessive. Homosexuality and transgenderism and the like all exist. Most kids know they exist, even when parents try to hide it. I know mine did, and I still grew up knowing what gayness was, and am bi myself. Almost as if...trying to hide this stuff from people doesn't work. The healthy medium, of course, is to make it known that they exist, and lightly educate children on it little by little. No, I'm not saying we should teach kindergartners about different gay sex positions either. Obviously, as kids get older, the education on sex becomes more varied, and complicated. I got most of my sex education in late elementary school (fifth grade) into middle school. It was exclusively heterosexual, and honestly, it was pretty trash. I don't have a very good opinion of the educational system, and I think most people in general are awful teachers, and even worse at teaching sex education of any kind. My experiences are probably weird because I became sexually active as a young teen, and a lot of my 'education' came from early 2000s internet. Even then, I went through a lot of unnecessary stress because I still didn't 'get' certain aspects of biological sex (aka I'd freak out over late periods and thought I somehow got pregnant even if I hadn't had actual sex). My religious parents, predictably, did jackshit to educate me either, and basically tried to paint all sex as deviant and evil (joke's on them, it didn't stick to me the way they wanted it to For instance, I think some kids do suffer from gender dysmorphia. I've witnessed firsthand from people I used to know that it can be crippling and depressing. But then there's kids that got through phases, and believe that preferring a Hot Wheels car to a Barbie makes them trans. In high school, I knew a kid that cycled through phases: he thought he was gay, then he thought he was bi, then he thought he was straight, then he was gay again, etc. We all, him included, would joke about it. "Are you gay or bi this week?" I'd ask him, and he'd go, "Hm...bi? I think?" I feel like...the way things are now, people expect kids who are questioning themselves and their bodies/sexuality to conform to a label IMMEDIATELY AND FOREVER. Thus, to many in the LGBT+ community, a child questioning whether they are trans or not prompts them to immediately pressure that child into conforming to being trans. It's really not different from other groups. I remember the pressure in church for everyone there to be Christian and become Baptized. As a child, the other churchgoers actually tried to force me to get Baptized. There were a lot of reasons I refused, though they were wholly unsympathetic to it. If I came to church, I needed to be like the rest of them, and get Baptized. The pressure was tough on me. I didn't get Baptized in the end, though I know others who would give in, and do it so they could be considered a part of the group. Quote:
The right also claims to be the party of love and acceptance. I've had conservatives tell me I deserve to burn in hell for being a 'SJW', bi, being a minority, not being religious, etc. I honestly hate both sides, and their hypocrisy is both hilarious, and sad. Humanity is going down a really dark path right now, and the political discord is going to screw us all over in the end. To specifically address your hypothetical about Muslims and homophobia, and how the left react to it? I've seen them mostly deflect that notion because, yes, it is contradictory. Thing is, they don't care, and they don't really ponder those notions too deeply. Many of the followers of leftist ideology just follow what they're told by their political overlords. Same with the right, honestly. If you really look into both political ideologies with a magnifying glass, you'll soon discover there's a lot of contradictions in beliefs they follow. Anyway, going back to the main topic... I don't mind the idea of having themed months like black history month, and the like. It would be a nice opportunity, especially for kids, to learn more about other cultures, and the accomplishments of people within those groups. That's not what these months are for nowadays, and the corporatization and politicization of it all makes it very obvious what the real motive behind it is. |
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the leftist may stand with ukraine but little do they realize ukraine does not recognize same-sex marriage. Last edited by 1987; 06-12-2022 at 01:54 PM. |
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Remember Matthew Shepard? Is that what you want for kids today via making them exist in the shadows? Because it's that kind of reason why straight people needed exposure to harmless but "different" aspects of some people so they don't go around mistreating, abusing, and sometimes killing them. Insist that kids should but kept in a safe space hetero-only bubble of life knowledge and that mistreatment and ostracization of peers is what you're only going to get more of. My personal feeling on pride month, etc... Eh? More power to 'em, I'm more or less different. It's not my fight, but don't stand in anyone's way of civil and social issues they face and may need to see improvement on. Their existence and wanting and needing inclusion in society like anyone else doesn't scare me or make me insecure. Them being who they are is not going to somehow makes kids any different than who they themselves are 'intended' to be in life, it doesn't work that way. Gayness (etc) is no more pornographic or scandalous or inappropriate in public unless someone is making it so. Don't feel any of it needs to be pushed and specifically taught, but if kids see a gay couple and have questions, or even questions about their own feelings they think are "different" than their peers, then I see no problem in the proper adult discussing things with them at an age appropriate level. Last edited by IndigoErth; 06-12-2022 at 02:19 PM. |
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Problem is, both sides are so radicalized and unwilling to compromise that they only see two options: a) hide it all away from the children and teens forever, or b) teach small children everything about LGBT+, including subjects they couldn't comprehend at a young age. A happy medium doesn't exist to many people. |
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I know a kindergartner. (Okay he just passed kindergarten this week.) Trying to get this kid to listen and pay attention to anything he's being told at this age is near impossible, let alone topics that would be way over his young brain to grasp what the words even mean to begin with. Age appropriate issue aside, it sounds like a waste of time to get this age to listen to anything beyond what actually interests them anyhow, let alone teachers trying to impart the beginnings of learning. (Ghosts, monsters, Minecraft, Plants Vs. Zombies... you'd likely get his attention with those, but he'll barge in and want to do all the talking. Anything else, forget it.) I think he knows that some men and women love people of their own gender, and that's fine, but he's still struggling with grasping the beginnings of reading and those life basics, so I really think more personal matters of the world around him have plenty of time to come later. Locally, the only drag queen stuff I've heard of as far as kids are concerned is some kind of story time thing at a library. I don't really have an issue with that. It isn't teaching them about drag queens or any orientation, they're just reading normal storybooks, and if they're all dolled up then honestly, young kids may not really see much difference between the drag queens and, say, other costumed characters at Disney or whatnot, since it is more or less a character they preform. And those who have a problem with it can simply skip that kind of library event. |
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I do have some questions about how kids raised in a "gay bubble" (for lack of a better term) turn out, statistically.
While it's 100% true that not everyone grows up to be a mirror reflection of the environment they were raised in, at the same time this is the first time in recorded human history where we have "out and proud" homosexuals raising children openly and I can't help but wonder what kind of effect that has. Like, not for nothing, but I do know a few gay people who are especially spiteful towards "the straights" - which is a bit understandable, don't get me wrong - and while these specific individuals don't have kids, it's pretty clear to me that if they did have kids and those kids turned out straight, they'd be just as aghast and disappointed as a typical conservative Christian whose kids turn out gay. Same thing from the other direction. MANY parents do their level best to turn their kids into smaller versions of themselves, and they do it on multiple levels. So like... can we prove that at least some of these gay parents aren't "nudging" their kids along on their preferred path? I mean, it's a variable. |
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Like I said above, I had those adults and kids in my former church trying to pressure me into a Baptism as well. It was actually pretty intimidating because they'd be like, "If you don't get Baptized, you might go to hell, sweetie!" They'd say that sort of thing through these Stepford Smiles of theirs, and even kid me could tell it was...creepy. But I just rejected it anyhow. Sadly, most people conform because, well, it's how they get approval from their peers. As you could tell, not conforming came with a huge price for me. I'm not exactly a super beloved person with a close network of friends and family. Anyway, thing is, bad parents like that come in all shapes and sizes. There are likely gay parents who try to push their kids towards that lifestyle, sure. There are other types of parents who also try to push their kids into all sorts of stuff that they deem for their 'own good' as well. It sucks, but at the very end of the day, people need to say "Stop" if their parents or whoever are trying to muck up their lives and they don't want that. In my experience, that's easier said than done, because most people want to please others around them including their own parents. Thing is, what can be done? I don't think, short of having the government step in (I highly advise against people telling the government to tell them how to raise kids...I really, truly do) with crap like tests or whatever (let me reiterate, never give the government that kind of power |
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I mean we're pumping out high school graduates who can barely read or write, but it's like SUPER important that we teach 4-year olds about drag queens, hormone therapy and elective surgery, you guys. |
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The left is a snake eating its own tail. Change my mind.
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Sumac is a legend! Way to expose the nazi child molesting left.
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https://nypost.com/2023/06/25/drag-q...rt-gay-rights/ If you want to keep LGBTQ support from declining any further, you probably shouldn’t do stuff like this. Just saying. https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status...CwkZmTj7guAAAA (Those Antifa guys look more like terrorists than the Muslim protestors https://twitter.com/GAG_NewYork/stat...Cw0eGShrguAAAA https://twitter.com/midwesthomo77/st...Cz7afq9bcuAAAA
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Not a joke: LGBTs don't reproduce, which is pretty much the same as being sterile, and if they had their way everyone would be in their camp and therefore humans would go extinct in a matter of decades. Who knows if that's their endgame, or even if they have one besides being obnoxious, but it's for sure more of a possibility now than ever before.
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Besides, even most delusional of those mentally ill people understand that they are more straight people than LGBBQs, even if counting various non-binary triple headed otherkin helicopters as part of their movement. Their attempts to pretend that LGBBQs can be a separate culture akin to that of cultures of different countries and races are cute and highlight how dumb their whole gimmick is. Quote:
Also, once again, difference between trans and priests and "le ebil republicanz" is that trans is a group specifically founded around fetish and mental illness. It is a group, which routinely gaslights whole population into accepting them and their perversions as normal. And most people looking at those freakshows would figure that those people don't belong anywhere near children. Last edited by Sumac; 06-27-2023 at 07:26 AM. |
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Men x men or women x women cannot reproduce. Period. Now, you may have noticed the Alphabet Agenda doesn't give a rat's *ss about straight people, and in fact sees them as inferior. Something to be "educated" and overwhelmed with propaganda replaced. They're not tolerant at all. So if they had their way - and fortunately this is the unlikely part but still not impossible by any means - and more and more people, until eventually everyone, joined their ranks... Who would be left to replenish the population as it naturally dies out? See? Just a bit of abstract thinking taken to its logical conclusion. Not hard at all. Over the centuries, yes. But beards aren't really a necessity anymore, are they? Last edited by ChosenOne; 06-27-2023 at 09:24 AM. |
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Its just happens that those people support basically everything "anti-establishment" or whatever passes in their wooden heads as "anti-mainstream". And let me tell you - all those LGBBBQ* would not like the planet to die out. Most of them are mentally ill fetishists who ENJOY attention. Naturally they don't want anyone to die out, they NEED an audience so the whole world could see how GREAT and UNDERAPPRECIATED they are. Without audience they are basically nothing - just boring psychos. The whole modern LGBBQ- thing is about getting attention and power through it. It is not about "rights", not about fighting Homophobia and whatnot. It is solely about attention and money. Which is why it can be said that LGB movement has been been betrayed from the inside and diffused into complete opposite of what it once meant to be. Quote:
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Its just a typical boring fear-mongering typical for Homophobes and not very different from SJW screaming about "le ebil nazis" waiting to kill them behind every corner. And more fear-mongering. Boring. Quote:
No report is 100% objective, since there are all go from people with various agendas. I don't know what news you are consuming, but I am sure as heck, most of them are subjective to one degree or the other. Quote:
It is not about political goals - it is about throwing a tantrum and getting headpats. Last edited by Sumac; 06-27-2023 at 03:12 PM. |
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I haven't posted here, but to me I really don't mind how people live their lives, or anyones personal lifestyle (obviously it doesn't affect me in any way). As long as gay people aren't bothering anyone else, it doesn't really matter. I have no problem with gay and lesbian couples, let them love who they want as long as everyone is above 18 years old and it's consenting.
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No, but still happens, that’s for sure.
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