Could TMNT beat any other Super Hero Team?

[cqb101]

Originally Posted by KROW

Batman was the first to enter my mind but I took a chance.

Do you think Deadpool would kill all the boys or leave Mikey alive for some laughs? What about Deadpool VS. Casey? Who'd win?

If the TMNT couldn't beat Deadpool, I doubt Casey could. Hell, Deadpool could take on the four brother AND Casey at the same time and kick their asses. Casey'd be the first to go. He'd get shot. He's not fast, agile, or smart enough to avoid gunfire.

Heck, I dougt that one bullet would even slow down Casey! The guy has alot of raw power, and a pretty damn high pain threshold!

I think the TMNT would do decently well against guys like Ryu and Ken; plus it's been hinted in the comics that the TMNT have good manipulation with ki.

[cqb101]

Originally Posted by Ryo

Heck, I dougt that one bullet would even slow down Casey! The guy has alot of raw power, and a pretty damn high pain threshold!

Ya, but still, when someones unloading a clip from an SMG on you, you're gonna go down...No matter who you are.

[heretic888]

Nope.I'm talking about the FoxBox TMNT. I HIGHLY doubt that Fox Box Mike would be "willing to kill".

Well, you may have a point if we're talking about that Mikey. But, honestly, its very unlikely the FoxBox TMNT would beat any other established group or fighter.

The Mirage and/or Archie TMNT, on the other hand....

How about Leo VS. Sagat? Raph VS. Balrog? I don't know. I just think the TMNT would have a chance against most of the Street Fighters.

Leo and Raph would win, if we're talking Mirage. I doubt the FoxBox versions would do that well.

The reason the TMNT would have a huge edge over most of the Street Fighters is that the Street Fighters have been trained to fight against ONE opponent, who is (usually) UNARMED. That's their specialty, their forte. They are also trained to fight within the boundaries of some sort of tournament-style rules.

The TMNT have not.

I have one more thing to say in this thread: Deadpool would own the TMNT.

That's a joke, right??

Of course, I suppose in some circumstances, Deadpool would have an advantage...

Do you think Deadpool would kill all the boys or leave Mikey alive for some laughs? What about Deadpool VS. Casey? Who'd win?

I think Deadpool would kill Casey, since guns beat hockey sticks --- and CJ doesn't have the kind of skill needed to outmaneuver a sharpshooter like Deadpool.

I think any one of the TMNT would waste Deadpool, though. Mirage-ish, anyway.

Hell, Deadpool could take on the four brother AND Casey at the same time and kick their asses.

Once again, this is a joke, right??

Heck, I dougt that one bullet would even slow down Casey! The guy has alot of raw power, and a pretty damn high pain threshold!

Unless he's a drug addict, that wouldn't matter. Human is human, and a bullet is a bullet.

I think the TMNT would do decently well against guys like Ryu and Ken; plus it's been hinted in the comics that the TMNT have good manipulation with ki.

Not in the way you're thinking about. Remember, they study ninjutsu. Not aikido.

Laterz.

[cqb101]

Ok, here's my reasonging behind why Deadpool can beat the TMNT. First off, he has a healing factor. The TMNT wouldn't be able to kill him. But again, it may not be a fight to the death so that doesn't really matter either. Secondly, his arsenal of weapons and how well he's trained to use them. Third, he ALSO trained in different forms of martial arts, I believe even Ninjitsu. He knows what the TMNT can do, for the most part. Finally, he can teleport. I know it's not part of his powers and rather one of his gadgets, but it still counts.

[heretic888]

Ok, here's my reasonging behind why Deadpool can beat the TMNT. First off, he has a healing factor. The TMNT wouldn't be able to kill him.

They don't have to kill him. Furthermore, why would they want to??

Secondly, his arsenal of weapons and how well he's trained to use them.

The TMNT have an "arsenal of weapons", too, and they're much more skilled with them.

Third, he ALSO trained in different forms of martial arts, I believe even Ninjitsu. He knows what the TMNT can do, for the most part.

Nope. Sorry.

I know this "cross-training produces super-warriors" fantasy is very appealing to many would-be tournament fighters --- but the simple truth is that martial arts don't really work that way.

Training for years and years in the fundamentals of a single art, to the point of mastery, is far more preferable than dabbling in several arts. Any experienced martial artist will tell you that. Besides, Deadpool's military-trained and, this is no attack on military types, their "martial arts" training is (contrary to popular belief) nowhere near the level of an experienced civilian martial arts dojo.

Don't think this storefront "uber-list" of styles is somehow a sign of skill. I have read Deadpool, and he is NOWHERE near as skilled in hand-to-hand (or stealth) as the TMNT.

Finally, he can teleport. I know it's not part of his powers and rather one of his gadgets, but it still counts.

That's cool and all, but it would also be the TMNT's advantage. Their goal would be to get away unharmed --- not to 'beat' him. This is why they would succeed in most battles like this.

Laterz.

[cqb101]

But if they're trying to escape Deadpool can just teleport and bamf! He's right near them again. He wouldn't let them escape.

[heretic888]

But if they're trying to escape Deadpool can just teleport and bamf! He's right near them again. He wouldn't let them escape.

Difficult to stop someone you can't see.

[cqb101]

Originally Posted by heretic888

Difficult to stop someone you can't see.

God damn it. You win again.

[heretic888]

Mwahahaha!!! *sips the blood of infants in the corner while contemplating his evil-ness*

Originally Posted by heretic888

Not in the way you're thinking about. Remember, they study ninjutsu. Not aikido.

True, but the way I was looking at it was that in the world of Street Fighter, half the fighters can do some kind of ki projectile attack regardless of what Martial Art they know (I know, it's not realistic), so I figured that if the TMNT (the Mirage TMNT) were put into that world to fight them, their ki manipulation skills would be tweeked in that universe.
In any case, the awesome thing about Ninjutsu is that you can always expand your training and develope new variations to you techniques/abillities. It's a flexible art with practicly no boundries (I know you know this, I'm just clairifying myself).

[heretic888]

True, but the way I was looking at it was that in the world of Street Fighter, half the fighters can do some kind of ki projectile attack regardless of what Martial Art they know (I know, it's not realistic), so I figured that if the TMNT (the Mirage TMNT) were put into that world to fight them, their ki manipulation skills would be tweeked in that universe.

This is true. I proposed similar mechanics for when (and if) the TMNT enter the Dragonball Z "world". Regarding Street Fighter, however, I would say that the TMNT: Tournament Fighters games would be a good indicator of what "ki powers" the TMNT would be capable of.

In any case, the awesome thing about Ninjutsu is that you can always expand your training and develope new variations to you techniques/abillities. It's a flexible art with practicly no boundries (I know you know this, I'm just clairifying myself).

This is true. However, there are underlying principles behind all of Ninpo methodology, even though the outward forms of the art evolve and adapt over time. Meaning, the art works the way it works because of these broad principles. This goes for Ninpo's approach to "internal" training, as well.

I refer you to this thread for clarification on how Ninpo treats "internal" work:

http://www.budoseek.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=5895

Actual "powers" the TMNT have exhibited in the comics include:
- an ability to enter a trance-like state whereby their need for oxygen is dramatically reduced
- the ability to "see through" illusions and similar effects
- the ability to "sense" the movements, energy, and general location of others --- even when denied access to their other senses (i.e., blinded)
- resistance to certain forms of mind control
- "explosive power" --- the TMNT seem able to generate enormous amounts of power in their movements far beyond their normal physical strength (Raphael has knocked down a steel door with one kick and ripped out a parking meter from the ground with a yank, Michelangelo has repeatedly punched through the side of a barn wall during a training session as if it was paper as well as split a workbench in half with a kick, etc.)

Then, of course, there is their uncanny level of acrobatic skill, precision (Mike once shot nine apples of Don's head consecutively with a bow and arrow), stealth (they can "disappear" in less than 2 seconds' time), and martial arts.

Laterz.

[KROW]

Okay, enough. I think Deadpool wouldn't kill the TMNT. He'd most likely drink a few beers with Casey and joke around with Mikey. Don would analyze his weaponry and powers. Leo would like to know more about his past. I doubt they'd fight at all.

Can't we all just get along?

Originally Posted by heretic888

I refer you to this thread for clarification on how Ninpo treats "internal" work:

http://www.budoseek.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=5895

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Thanks for the link. There's alot of interesting information there.

Another "Internal" abillity that the TMNT can do is astral projection.

Anyway... Back on topic; what do you all think about the TMNT vs. the Sailor Scouts? The Sailor Scouts have impresive powers, but on the other hand, the TMNT are better fighters.

[Spitfire]

You can have every freaking super power on the planet but if someone can figure out your weakness your are screwed. A 5 year old could beat venom as long as he had a some form of super sonic sound. A retard could beat Superman as long as he had some K handy. It doesnt matter if you can shoot lasers out of your ass you can be defeated. Im saying the turtles have Ninja trainning. Therefore they can be stealthy, think quickly, fight until their last breath, and kick butt. The turtles could beat anyone really(except for people who are like 400 ft tall) and anyone could beat the turtles. Think about it lets take The Hulk for example hes big therefore hes slow the turtles could take him. They might get smack around alittle but they could beat him. But then again the Hulk could catch one off guard and get the upper hand. Furthermore super heros who cant die a lame stupid and not very fun

[KROW]

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Case closed!

[cqb101]

Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

You can have every freaking super power on the planet but if someone can figure out your weakness your are screwed. A 5 year old could beat venom as long as he had a some form of super sonic sound. A retard could beat Superman as long as he had some K handy. It doesnt matter if you can shoot lasers out of your ass you can be defeated. Im saying the turtles have Ninja trainning. Therefore they can be stealthy, think quickly, fight until their last breath, and kick butt. The turtles could beat anyone really(except for people who are like 400 ft tall) and anyone could beat the turtles. Think about it lets take The Hulk for example hes big therefore hes slow the turtles could take him. They might get smack around alittle but they could beat him. But then again the Hulk could catch one off guard and get the upper hand. Furthermore super heros who cant die a lame stupid and not very fun

Ok, tell me how the TMNT could be Juggernaut. Or Wolverine for that matter.

And you're right about Deadpool...He probably would just go hang out with Casey. But I still think he could be any ONE TMNT at one time.

[Spitfire]

Originally Posted by cqb101

Ok, tell me how the TMNT could be Juggernaut. Or Wolverine for that matter.

And you're right about Deadpool...He probably would just go hang out with Casey. But I still think he could be any ONE TMNT at one time.

Wolverine can be beaten hes been beaten before same as Juggernaut. Make them send themselves off a cliff. dump acid on themselves, shock themselves, set themselves on fire. A number of things. Dodgeing can be wonders. I mean someone SPiderman kicked Super-boys ass by making him dumb a vat of acid on himself hahaha

[ZariusTwo]

WRONG

Spidy blinded Superboy with Impact Webbing and tricked him into electrocuting himself.

[Spitfire]

What ever I havtn read thw crossover in awhile it still proves my point no matter what the scenerio is