Official Episode Discussion S4 Ep 15: City At War

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by neatoman

This is actually a major problem I have with this episode.

Shredder has spent three whole seasons basically being invincible to the point of absolute absurdity, remember when he fought eight mutants at once without getting a scratch and only losing on a technicality? Turns out hitting a few pressure points will put him in a hospital bed for a few months...

Yeah, it just should have been so much more of an epic battle that led him to that state. I feel sorta cheated. Now Shredder's final showdown will be as some cheesy playmates mutant.

[Electric]

While it had flaws, my favorite episode of season 4 so far. Karais back to normal (though I wish they'd cure her mutation), Shinigami has an awesome design and personality, April as a kunoichi is great, and the episode felt even paced and like it progressed unlike the space arc

[NinjaPug]

Originally Posted by matteso586

Apparently, the guys at IGN didn't give this episode a review yet.

Max Nicholson no longer works for IGN

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

Max Nicholson no longer works for IGN

Really? What happened?

[NinjaPug]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Really? What happened?

He took on a full time role with CBS

[Casey]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Man, I really missed the show. It was gone too long.

But yeah, a lot of what Powder said. Mainly, why even call it City at War? It wasn't an offensive halfass adaption like the 4kids version, but it was just a waste of the namesake.

Shinigami was very cool. She looks like a Sophie Campbell drawing, and Yeo is a great VA for her.

Also very confused by Shredder's condition... I thought Splinter just nailed him in a couple of pressure points and pieced him up. Did we miss an episode?

Last gripe... Xever needs to go. He's making Dos Equis guy jokes and perving on April. The writers just need to sweep him under the rug if it's come to this.

Glad the show is back, let's hope it runs straight into season 5.

EDIT: Yeah Powder, that new foot hideout is a reference to another show/movie. But I'm currently blanking on it.

I don't even need to speak because you literally said exactly everything I was going to say pretty much verbatim. Weird.

[Vicky82]

I wonder if anyone is going to take over reviewing the episodes then as Max has left.

[srmff]

I'm actually really glad that it was named 'City at War.' It allows us to know what is going to happen in the following episodes. While with the 2003 series it could only be so long due to it being City at War part 1 etc. We know that the Nick series only does two part episodes so everything would have been crammed together and felt very rushed.

I really enjoyed this episode and I was entertained throughout. I like the addition of Shinigami. She provides a bit of stability for Karai at the moment anyway. As for people complaining about Shinigami's Gothic appearance. She's friends with Karai... Birds of a feather flock together.

[TigerClaw]

The TMNT Fansite has a review of the episode.
http://tinyurl.com/hwyl8cg

[evan2000]

Am I the only one who noticed the Simpsons reference? "Why you little" and "¡Ay, caramba!"

[CyberCubed]

I just really love how this episode has Shredder with all 6 of his henchmutants.

Tiger Claw and Rahzar/Fishface are still there, but now also Bebop/Rocksteady and Baxter Stockman. Funny thing is all these characters worked for Shredder in past continuities too aside from new characters like Tiger Claw and Fishface.

[Jephael]

Awesome episode, though what was the point of Casey Jones' cameo in the beginning? Like he was just there for April's initiation but then didn't stick around. That felt kinda weird. Maybe if someone said he had hockey practice that night so he couldn't stick around. Other than that, loved it!

[Vicky82]

Originally Posted by evan2000

Am I the only one who noticed the Simpsons reference? "Why you little" and "¡Ay, caramba!"

I think the killer dolphins (from Bradfords cartoon) was a reference to the Simpsons Halloween episode.

[victory_angel]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Yeah, it just should have been so much more of an epic battle that led him to that state. I feel sorta cheated. Now Shredder's final showdown will be as some cheesy playmates mutant.

I had pointed this out posts ago, but pressure points can do a lot of damage. The ones we've seen Splinter use mostly are the ones that disable temporarily.

And depending where the point is struck and the force behind it, it can cause permanent damage such as breaking bones or paralysis.

The only one that would be questionable is Dim Mak or the 'Death Touch' since that is more fictional.

[ranger_scout]

I thought that April really kicked major butt when attacked Tiger Claw with that Dragon move. Karai has been through a lot, but she really should give her father a chance. She's just always been a lost soul.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Actually it is quite real. I've watched some videos on it using those dummys that imitate how a body is affected by trauma, and it basically spider-fractures the sternum into the lungs causing a slow death from internal damage and bleeding. Nasty move which is why it is seldom taught and is illegal to use in most places and forbidden by most schools. Not a myth it is just very misunderstood.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by Casey

I don't even need to speak because you literally said exactly everything I was going to say pretty much verbatim. Weird.

I read your diary last night.

Originally Posted by victory_angel

I had pointed this out posts ago, but pressure points can do a lot of damage. The ones we've seen Splinter use mostly are the ones that disable temporarily.

And depending where the point is struck and the force behind it, it can cause permanent damage such as breaking bones or paralysis.

The only one that would be questionable is Dim Mak or the 'Death Touch' since that is more fictional.

Yeah, I'll take it. But it still wasn't as cool as Shredder's final fight as a human should have been. And it still does not explain the bandages.

[Mona_Lisa]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

I can understand were Powder was coming from, it seemed like the wrong title for this episode but it does looks like it's the start of the City At War arc, with episodes coming up like Broken Foot and Mutant Gangland. Also with things said in this episode that gangs and the super villains moving in on Shredders turf and Leo saying things will get worse and Karia said she's going to claim this city as well.

I loved this episode (my kids did too)! But I can see how someone who wanted a real "City At War" arc would be angry. Kind of like me and the whole Dark Raph thing! I pretty much knew not to expect anything and started watching the episode open mindedly...
Anyway, strangely enough before I watched this ep. my girls re-watched the episode with the "Aions?".... And at the end of the episode it said anyone could be corrupted by power and ended with Aprils picture....
Now we see the beginnings of dark April, pretty cool.
I'm so happy Karri is back, Its just good to have the turtles back in NYC! Can't wait for the next ep.
The only problem I had with this episode is what happened to Shredder anyway, and why would Baxter stockman help him? But maybe they will explain this in a later episode.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by Mona_Lisa

I loved this episode (my kids did too)! But I can see how someone who wanted a real "City At War" arc would be angry. Kind of like me and the whole Dark Raph thing! I pretty much knew not to expect anything and started watching the episode open mindedly...
Anyway, strangely enough before I watched this ep. my girls re-watched the episode with the "Aions?".... And at the end of the episode it said anyone could be corrupted by power and ended with Aprils picture....
Now we see the beginnings of dark April, pretty cool.
I'm so happy Karri is back, Its just good to have the turtles back in NYC! Can't wait for the next ep.
The only problem I had with this episode is what happened to Shredder anyway, and why would Baxter stockman help him? But maybe they will explain this in a later episode.

Regardless, I'm happy were getting new episodes, and most importantly, Mona Lisa will even appear in some since she's featured in the new opening intro.

[ssjup81]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

I'm kinda bummed that this episode retroactively made Splinter vs Shredder in Earth's Last Stand kinda lame. It should have been more brutal and ended with him being further burned. I just really can't understand why he's all bandaged.

Splinter probably hit a lot of vital pressure points causing the state he's in...although yeah...the bandages on his face are strange.