Star Wars: The Book of Boba Fett

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by Mayhem

Dick move by Luke though

(slightly spoiled by talk of Grogu and his lightsaber colour online, but that doesn't mean we already know his choice)

I'm getting the vibe that Grogu will take the chain mail and go back to Mando. Later on, in a few seasons he will go back to Luke to finish training after he realizes that he has to for some reason.

Narratively then, this gives him the armor to survive Kylo Ren's massacre while he is being trained by Luke.

But quite frankly I wish they use some of the "force backdoor Universe" stuff from Rebels to just erase the sequel trilogy.

But ignoring the narrative action, if this was real life? Yeah that was a totally unnecessary and ridiculous "choose them or me" moment from Luke In real life it should be "yeah your buddy dropped off some indestructible armor for you. This will make you an incredibly powerful fighter. You are lucky to have it".

[sdp]

No matter how much they try to fix things, no matter how cool this period between Episode 6/7 becomes, it'll suck because we still end up with Episode 7. And I don't even think they're doing a great job. I still feel they're using our own goodwill as fans and abusing of nostalgia to carry these shows.

Having all these prequel characters alive post ROTJ is also a bit weird, it's cool seeing them but explanations on what they were doing during the OT is just weird.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by sdp

No matter how much they try to fix things, no matter how cool this period between Episode 6/7 becomes, it'll suck because we still end up with Episode 7. And I don't even think they're doing a great job. I still feel they're using our own goodwill as fans and abusing of nostalgia to carry these shows.

Having all these prequel characters alive post ROTJ is also a bit weird, it's cool seeing them but explanations on what they were doing during the OT is just weird.

They're just milking this **** for what it's worth. Shoulda just stayed as movies.

Kinds like the MCU, it should have stayed as the MCU. We didn't need shows based off the characters. Daredevil and such was fine cause they didn't get their own movies, but the actual movie characters? I don't want to watch a TV series to keep in track with what's going on in the movies.

Don't end Black Widow with lead-ins to TV shows. Stuff like Yelena going after Hawkeye should be saved for the next time Hawkeye is on screen. I shouldn't have to watch Wandavision to understand any references Wanda might bring up in the next Dr. Strange movie. Leave the movie stuff to the movie stuff. Like Agents of SHIELD, nothing they did affected the movies, the movies affected the show, so if you didn't care, you weren't forced to watch their show to understand what's happening in Civil War for example.

[sdp]

I don't trust Disney, they don't care about a vision, only to have a sanitized profitable product. They got lucky with the MCU having someone with a vision guiding things but Star Wars wasn't lucky. And even then MCU has become so sanitized over the years and it'll never be able to be more than that because of Disney's kid friendly reputation they need to cover.

TV shows definitely work for star wars and super heroes, in some ways by a lot since movies always need to up the stakes to keep audiences interest but with shows you can make smaller scale stories. I think the star wars shows are in a fine line between nostalgia and good content but it can very easily be tipped and they'll have nothing going for them like the sequels trilogy showed. It especially has it tough since they need to come up with explanations to make the sequel trilogy make more sense.

[CyberCubed]

I don't see the argument here when the whole Star Wars EU existed for like 30+ years already with comics, videogames, books, etc. which expanded the story beyond the original 3 movies.

So nowadays that TV show production has caught up to movies and they have the money to do it, it makes sense to do a lot of cartoons and live-action shows filling in the gaps. Hell that's why George Lucas made the Clone Wars cartoon which started way back in 2008 because he wanted to show how the whole Clone Wars actually played out that he didn't have time for in the movies.

[sdp]

Lucas worked on a live action tv show and they had like 100 episodes worth of scripts for "SWs Underworld" a show that was basically "done" and they were only waiting for effects to get cheaper for a tv budget to start doing it. A shame we'll never see that. He loved the SWs, the reason Clone Wars looked better than Rebels was because Lucas didn't care if he had to put his own money into it, he preferred the show to look better, Disney only cared to make it profitable.

The second Clone Wars cartoon is actually doesn't do a great job in showing how the Clone Wars happened, It's a cool show but I never understood how people praised it that it "fixed" the prequels, it doesn't really do much of that, it just tells cool stories that for the most part feel unrelated to the actual clone wars.

Now the Expanded Universe multimedia project of books/comics/video games that started when Episode II came out and finished before Episode III actually did great job in telling a "war" story over the course of those 3 years, it had a beginning, middle and felt more of a civil war than the CGi Clone Wars cartoon did.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by sdp

No matter how much they try to fix things, no matter how cool this period between Episode 6/7 becomes, it'll suck because we still end up with Episode 7. And I don't even think they're doing a great job. I still feel they're using our own goodwill as fans and abusing of nostalgia to carry these shows.

Having all these prequel characters alive post ROTJ is also a bit weird, it's cool seeing them but explanations on what they were doing during the OT is just weird.

Originally Posted by sdp

I don't trust Disney, they don't care about a vision,

I get it, man. But I think the possibility to truly retcon and "sanitize" the awful sequel trilogy is there with that "backdoor universe" comment I made just above your post.

I don't remember the canon name for it, but they basically invented this possibility in the Star Wars Rebels show where Ezra fights Palpatine in some kind of wormhole dimension of the Force.

Filoni could literally use the concept as the dues ex machina for the entire sequel trilogy.

[AquaParade]

Wasn't impressed with the finale. Only episodes 5 and 6 did anything for me, which is a bummer, considering they don't star Fett, who is my favorite Star Wars character. Or at least he was.

This finale was the same flavor of mediocre as most of the season, but with all the leftover budget splurging everywhere, which could have been utilized better throughout the show. This was a return to the quality of episodes 1-4, but I suspect fans will be a tad more lenient on it, because off all the crap they throw at the screen.

[Andrew NDB]

Eh... what a disappointment. Kind of a waste. Really, no twist at all to Boba Fett: redeemed good guy with heart of gold for no reason at all? It really was just the Pike Syndicate and nobody higher the whole time, even though they've been bottom-level grunts in everything else and they're like the least exciting threat ever?

Very bizarre choices in this show, and what a weak, weak first season.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Very bizarre choices in this show, and what a weak, weak first season.

From the get-go I looked at this show as a one-off spinoff that was filler for whatever reason for Mando Season 3.

So it's sort of off-putting to consider it a "first season" as opposed to a spin-off mini-series, you know? Like... Boba Fett didn't need an ongoing show in the first place and the Book of Boba Fett proved that maybe the character didn't need a show at all.

[AquaParade]

Overall, it feels like the show has de-valued the character, which is a shame. Hopefully they try to redeem him, in some sense, rather than toss him aside now. It has to be done the right way. Maybe in a more subtle way.

[Leo656]

Sounds like Disney still isn't being the least bit subtle about ruining everything anyone ever liked about Star Wars in favor of pushing their own characters.

Makes you wonder just how awful the Obi-Wan spinoff is gonna be.

[sdp]

Dave Filoni should totally be in charge of star wars, he is indeed the Kevin Feige of Star Wars. To be honest I don't care much for Dave Filoni's Star Wars, something about it just enver rubbed me the wrong way, but at least it's consistent.

Book of Boba Fett is kind of weird, The Mandalorian already took the look of Boba Fett and his attitude in other ways from the past so when he got a show it's underwhelming, then again Jango Fett was underwhelming, only the comics and books did Boba Fett justice. This also feels like part of The Mandalorian like a side season instead of a proper show, it doesn't feel like it works alone.

I think Obi Wan Kenobi should be a good show but man are they so uninspired when they come up with the titles to these shows and movies jeeze.