Star Wars: Episode IX - Page 64

*Allio* · 12-25-2019, 12:58 PM

Well since the Sith Troopers are named after past Siths, it could be that Anddedu is canon, and is the soul which is Sidious.

The problem with the EU characters of a long time a go, they could be canon or not but the problem is a lot (like Anddedu) are from at least 1000 years prior to The Pantom Menance, but are so far in the past that their influence really doesn't add much if they are canon or not (They hardly affected the old movies during the EU)

I always kind of imagined that Disney would do some more "Thrawn" in the new canon, adding old into the new. I guess we will see more now that the films are going on break.

*CyberCubed* · 12-25-2019, 05:57 PM

So Luke Skywalker never had any kids or love interest in the new canon? I wonder if they'll retcon in a wife for him at some point that passed away before Episode 7 started, and use that as another reason for him going into seclusion.

*Allio* · 12-25-2019, 09:42 PM

apparently to George Lucas, Luke marrying was one of the things he didn't like.

*Shark_Blade* · 12-25-2019, 11:57 PM

I like Luke being an asexual just like Elsa.

Anyway aren’t Jedis not supposed to be married?

*Andrew NDB* · 12-26-2019, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

I like Luke being an asexual just like Elsa.

Anyway aren’t Jedis not supposed to be married?

Luke was never really indoctrinated into the Jedi Order, or at least brought up to speed on their dead ways like that. There was no Jedi Council to tell him not to do any of that stuff, nor any obligation to do so.

The mystery surrounding Luke in 7 and 8 ("does he have a kid? Is Rey his daughter?") was voided in 9, I think, by the new and sudden idea (probably coming from up top) that 9 needed to be the "end of the Skywalker saga." In that all ties to the Skywalker lineage suddenly perish in it. That Rey takes the name is fairly meaningless to this end.

*CyberCubed* · 12-26-2019, 06:13 AM

The important question is knowing whether Luke died a virgin or not. At least we know he got at least 1 kiss (from his sister) in canon.

*Allio* · 12-26-2019, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Anyway aren’t Jedis not supposed to be married?

Jedi's aren't suppose to have emotional attachment. So yeah, typically marriage is off the table. Though sex isn't necessarily off the table.

I think Kit Fisto, since his race reproduces very slowly, is allowed to go to his planet to help repopulate.

~~Sumac~~ · 12-26-2019, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Allio

I think Kit Fisto, since his race reproduces very slowly, is allowed to go to his planet to help repopulate.

He just lied to get some action.

*frank_one* · 12-26-2019, 12:43 PM

That last scene with Rey telling the stranger she's a Skywalker was a bit weird. I mean, you're not a Skywalker and you will never be, deal with it.

*Allio* · 12-26-2019, 01:01 PM

I wouldn’t say that was bad, I mean the idea was clearly because she saw those two as parental figures. I mean still better than calling yourself Palpatine

*Andrew NDB* · 12-26-2019, 01:31 PM

It struck me as a consolation prize for fans. "We are wiping out the Skywalkers but... Rey is a FAKE Skywalker now."

*TigerClaw* · 12-26-2019, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Allio

I wouldn’t say that was bad, I mean the idea was clearly because she saw those two as parental figures. I mean still better than calling yourself Palpatine

Yeah. Calling yourself a Palpatine will leave a bad taste in the mouth for some people.

*CyberCubed* · 12-26-2019, 02:06 PM

She should of said just Rey. Calling herself a Skywalker doesn’t really make sense or fit at all.

A Palpatine saved the galaxy from a Palpatine. The Skywalkers were all failures after all.

~~Vegita-San~~ · 12-26-2019, 02:52 PM

if all the theaters are going to be as empty as mine seems to be tomorrow at a close to 11AM showing...I can't see this thing breaking 1 billion.

*Andrew NDB* · 12-26-2019, 02:54 PM

Whatever the box office will be after this weekend, that'll pretty much be it.

*MikeandRaph87* · 12-26-2019, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Whatever the box office will be after this weekend, that'll pretty much be it.

What makes you say that? I thought this was better received by fans than The Last Jedi unless the problem of The Last Jedi is causing an overall box office issue for Rise of Skywalker.

*Andrew NDB* · 12-26-2019, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

What makes you say that? I thought this was better received by fans than The Last Jedi unless the problem of The Last Jedi is causing an overall box office issue for Rise of Skywalker.

People just don't care about Star Wars like they did in 2017, before TLJ.

Also, more of this:

*MikeandRaph87* · 12-26-2019, 06:22 PM

The main thing that is hurting Rise of Skywalker is The Last Jedi. Cannot blame Abrams. This is on Johnson. There would be no detractors stating risks are needed or liberal themes are essential. Whatever happened to democracy dying with thunderous applause?

*IMJ* · 12-26-2019, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

The main thing that is hurting Rise of Skywalker is The Last Jedi. Cannot blame Abrams. This is on Johnson. There would be no detractors stating risks are needed or liberal themes are essential. Whatever happened to democracy dying with thunderous applause?

Agreed.

The Rise of Skywalker does feel like it tries to fix things, but it just can't do it. If any third act actually called for a parts one and two it would've been this. Appropriately done and fans could've quite literally just excised The Last Jedi and watched The Force Awakens and the hypothetical The Rise of Skywalker parts one and two.

This trilogy was a mess, but I'm vindicated completely - I've complained about the films but I haven't rewarded them with a dime for Star Wars since The Last Jedi took my money and goodwill on its opening night.

*CyberCubed* · 12-26-2019, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

The main thing that is hurting Rise of Skywalker is The Last Jedi. Cannot blame Abrams. This is on Johnson. There would be no detractors stating risks are needed or liberal themes are essential. Whatever happened to democracy dying with thunderous applause?

This movie is far worse received than TLJ everywhere I'm viewing online even by fans. I'm lurking all over forums, twitter, reddit, the usual places, it's not better received. (not counting movie critics)

Also I still don't understand what you think this movie undid over TLJ? J.J. did what you wanted and gave Rey a lame backstory making her a Palpatine instead of just leaving it be. Everything else stuck, and garbage like Snoke deserves to be forgotten.

I almost shudder to think of how the last act would play out if TLJ didn't kill Snoke, and they tried to play up Snoke as a major villain at the end. Palpatine would most likely not have been brought back, so I don't know what the hell J.J. was going to do with Snoke otherwise. In fact, I don't even think J.J. himself knew.

12-25-2019, 12:58 PM	#1261
Allio Foot Elite Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 4,208	Well since the Sith Troopers are named after past Siths, it could be that Anddedu is canon, and is the soul which is Sidious. The problem with the EU characters of a long time a go, they could be canon or not but the problem is a lot (like Anddedu) are from at least 1000 years prior to The Pantom Menance, but are so far in the past that their influence really doesn't add much if they are canon or not (They hardly affected the old movies during the EU) I always kind of imagined that Disney would do some more "Thrawn" in the new canon, adding old into the new. I guess we will see more now that the films are going on break. __________________

12-25-2019, 09:42 PM	#1263
Allio Foot Elite Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 4,208	apparently to George Lucas, Luke marrying was one of the things he didn't like. __________________

12-26-2019, 01:01 PM	#1270
Allio Foot Elite Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 4,208	I wouldn’t say that was bad, I mean the idea was clearly because she saw those two as parental figures. I mean still better than calling yourself Palpatine __________________

12-26-2019, 01:31 PM	#1271
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,565	It struck me as a consolation prize for fans. "We are wiping out the Skywalkers but... Rey is a FAKE Skywalker now." __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

12-26-2019, 02:54 PM	#1275
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,565	Whatever the box office will be after this weekend, that'll pretty much be it. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

12-25-2019, 05:57 PM	#1262
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,883	So Luke Skywalker never had any kids or love interest in the new canon? I wonder if they'll retcon in a wife for him at some point that passed away before Episode 7 started, and use that as another reason for him going into seclusion.

12-25-2019, 11:57 PM	#1264
Shark_Blade Emperor Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,909	I like Luke being an asexual just like Elsa. Anyway aren’t Jedis not supposed to be married?

12-26-2019, 06:13 AM	#1266
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,883	The important question is knowing whether Luke died a virgin or not. At least we know he got at least 1 kiss (from his sister) in canon.

12-26-2019, 12:43 PM	#1269
frank_one Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Southern Europe Posts: 2,253	That last scene with Rey telling the stranger she's a Skywalker was a bit weird. I mean, you're not a Skywalker and you will never be, deal with it.

12-26-2019, 02:06 PM	#1273
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,883	She should of said just Rey. Calling herself a Skywalker doesn’t really make sense or fit at all. A Palpatine saved the galaxy from a Palpatine. The Skywalkers were all failures after all.

12-26-2019, 02:52 PM	#1274
~~Vegita-San~~ Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 6,089	if all the theaters are going to be as empty as mine seems to be tomorrow at a close to 11AM showing...I can't see this thing breaking 1 billion.

12-26-2019, 06:22 PM	#1278
MikeandRaph87 Jedi Master Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: JLA Satellite Headquarters Posts: 11,189	The main thing that is hurting Rise of Skywalker is The Last Jedi. Cannot blame Abrams. This is on Johnson. There would be no detractors stating risks are needed or liberal themes are essential. Whatever happened to democracy dying with thunderous applause?