Batman V. Superman: Dawn Of Justice - Page 69

*snake* · 01-19-2016, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

How final, though? Looks like concept art.

I don't love it, but I haven't really loved any Flash suit in live-action. It seems like people over-think Flash's costume, in particular. I don't see why, should be easy. Maybe it's "too simple"?

Not enough tacticool lines and darker shade on the costume.

*TurtleTitan97* · 01-19-2016, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

It seems like people over-think Flash's costume, in particular. I don't see why, should be easy. Maybe it's "too simple"?

Wouldn't be surprised if that were the case.

Hopefully the final product will look better. At the moment the CW costume is probably the best live action Flash costume for now,imo.

~~Leo656~~ · 01-20-2016, 12:10 AM

Yeah, but I agree that one's got all the seams and stuff for no reason.

What a trend, I tellya. Ah well.

I mean, the 1990 show's costume was pretty spot-on, but... man, it's very much a 1990 super-hero costume, y'know?

~~Commenter 42~~ · 01-20-2016, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZIgnIDWEAAAmEj.jpg

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZIkCHmU8AAbpdz.jpg

Thanks!
lol, I think that's from Injustice (the first pic). Hated that skin in the game too, but hopefully we don't get that.

not sure about the second.

Would be great if we got something simple like this:

*TurtleTitan97* · 01-20-2016, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Commenter 42

Thanks!
lol, I think that's from Injustice (the first pic). Hated that skin in the game too, but hopefully we don't get that.

It's not from Injustice. It's legit concept art.

~~Commenter 42~~ · 01-20-2016, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97

It's not from Injustice. It's legit concept art.

Really?
This designer is trashing every costume except WW. What is his deal? He really doesn't get it.

Fingerless gloves? oh...how...fab.

EDIT:
Sorry - not Injustice - DC Universe online.
@2:28

He doesn't have those fingerless gloves though...so...

*MikeandRaph87* · 01-20-2016, 11:55 AM

Article on Aquaman and the fact DC is finally trying to move him past the joke he is to the public due in part to being one of the five key players in the long running Superfriends cartoon.

https://www.yahoo.com/movies/39-aqua...591200310.html

The character is the most natural fit to be chairman of the Justice League given his role. He never really got that chance as he left that post the only time he held it aftwr just one year our time since he was playing hypocrite to the new rule he established about full dedication to the League.

*Krutch* · 01-20-2016, 01:27 PM

Probably not going to be a popular opinion, but I think in order to make the Flash costume work it needs to be practical from the neck down and use tracking marks to map the mask part.

If its practical it bends and folds in all the wrong ways and it'd need to be looked at at just the right angles to work.

~~Commenter 42~~ · 01-20-2016, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Krutch

Probably not going to be a popular opinion, but I think in order to make the Flash costume work it needs to be practical from the neck down and use tracking marks to map the mask part.

If its practical it bends and folds in all the wrong ways and it'd need to be looked at at just the right angles to work.

What do you mean?

*Krutch* · 01-20-2016, 03:44 PM

For example, on the TV show, they've used a type of latex rubber to make the mask he wears. Which is flexible and looks good when still, but it tends to bend in awkward ways more times than not...

And thats literally from the first random episode I skimmed through. It's hard not to notice.

And spandex wouldn't work because its restrictive to the actors face and, if its too loose, it sags. If its too tight, it bridges around where the nose gaps and you're left with the opposite problem with what the above pic looks like. You can use a type of glue(which Grant Gustin used for the first nine episodes) to the material but it doesn't completely solve the problem and actually creates new ones.

So what I'm recommending is make the suit from the neck down, then put tracking markers around the neck collar and on his face. That way the CGI mask that you'd graph on him can always stick to his skin while matching the same texture consistency as the rest of the suit.

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 01-20-2016, 03:50 PM

Please, no. Then you end up with "animated suit" syndrome, a la Green Lantern.

*Krutch* · 01-20-2016, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

Please, no. Then you end up with "animated suit" syndrome, a la Green Lantern.

I knew that would come up

For all the faults of that movie(and there are so many), the unnatural glowing effect of the suit is actually intentional. Which makes sense, actually. I mean the suit is supposed to be made from energy, not fabric. It shouldn't look like anything we've seen before. It should look alien.

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 01-20-2016, 04:03 PM

I was referring more to his "mask". It looked so very "drawn on". I think that was most people's objection to the costume.

~~Commenter 42~~ · 01-20-2016, 04:24 PM

I think a full CGI suit could totally work. I'm not a fan of bulky, unless it makes sense for the character. I'm old school, and always vote for tights and flights.

The GL CG idea was good, the execution wasn't. Biggest problem with GL glowing in daylight, is that things don't glow in daylight.

This practical work was awesome though - CG can look this good, it just never does these days.

If this had been a full suit, it would have been very cool:

~~Leo656~~ · 01-20-2016, 10:49 PM

That reminds me about something neat they've done with the newest Batman costume, is try some new things to maximize Affleck's ability to actually move in the suit. They've put some hidden seams in the mask so he can actually turn his head, without the entire thing looking like Bale's stupid motorcycle helmet, so that's neat, but more specific to this conversation, is that for a lot of the action and fight scenes, he's actually not wearing sleeves on the costume. In every Batman movie, they've struggled with how to make the suit mobile enough to do action and fight scenes in, but in this one, they came up with the idea to just add the sleeves later using CGI, meaning this is the first onscreen Batman who can actually raise his arms.

Which explains why he looks so fluid in those shots where he's tearing into groups of guys all at once.

I would've never even thought of it, but it seems to have been a brilliantly simple idea. Imagine, using CGI as a little icing on top instead of the entire damn cake. Who'da thunk it?

~~Commenter 42~~ · 01-21-2016, 01:56 AM

Good CG is invisible. Good CG is magic. It can be great.

On a side not, I re-watched Star Wars on blu-ray the other day, and man...that CG has not aged well. He butchered those shots...

Also, SW:ANH is, kind of crappy and boring, tbh.

Robbie's costume is growing on me - It's nuts how much the camera loves her.

*Krutch* · 01-21-2016, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

I was referring more to his "mask". It looked so very "drawn on". I think that was most people's objection to the costume.

That's more of the same issue though. They wanted it to look unnatural, and most people just read it as "drawn on". Regardless of how it was received, it was still was an intentional decision. When making a mask for The Flash, they'd want it to look as natural as possible.

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Originally Posted by Commenter 42

Also, SW:ANH is, kind of crappy and boring, tbh.

Blasphemy.

*MikeandRaph87* · 01-21-2016, 09:25 AM

Danny Trejo known for humor and over the top violence would be perfect for the role of Lobo if reports are true. Where would Lobo fut into DC cinematic puzzle?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/danny-tre...225553770.html

~~Commenter 42~~ · 01-21-2016, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Krutch

Blasphemy.

By the time Vader kills Obi-Wan, I'm done.
And seriously, why is Obi-wan her only hope? Her ONLY hope?

Puh-lease!

~~Leo656~~ · 01-25-2016, 09:32 PM

Lots of new stuff.
New pics:

Two new TV spots (The second, Batman-centric one has more brand-new footage):

And this little doozy, from the "KnightMare Scene" (which I'm more and more convinced isn't actually Bruce's literal nightmare, but a vision given to Diana by the Oracle of Themyscira, as some of the rumors have persisted... but who knows?). Note the image scorched into the ground:

Spoiler:

Not a bad start to the week.

01-20-2016, 11:55 AM	#1367
MikeandRaph87 Jedi Master Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: JLA Satellite Headquarters Posts: 11,189	Article on Aquaman and the fact DC is finally trying to move him past the joke he is to the public due in part to being one of the five key players in the long running Superfriends cartoon. https://www.yahoo.com/movies/39-aqua...591200310.html The character is the most natural fit to be chairman of the Justice League given his role. He never really got that chance as he left that post the only time he held it aftwr just one year our time since he was playing hypocrite to the new rule he established about full dedication to the League. __________________ Michelangelo: This looks like a job for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Raphael: Sheesh, Mikey this ain't a cartoon! Last edited by MikeandRaph87; 01-20-2016 at 03:47 PM.

01-20-2016, 03:50 PM	#1371
MsMarvelDuckie I Married a Duck! Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: The bowels of Hell, Texas(otherwise known as Decatur) Posts: 8,773	Please, no. Then you end up with "animated suit" syndrome, a la Green Lantern. __________________ "You IDIOTS! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -from "Spaceballs" "Where Science ends, magic begins." -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491 My various stories and fan-fics are now here- https://m.fanfiction.net/u/4770494/#end

01-20-2016, 04:03 PM	#1373
MsMarvelDuckie I Married a Duck! Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: The bowels of Hell, Texas(otherwise known as Decatur) Posts: 8,773	I was referring more to his "mask". It looked so very "drawn on". I think that was most people's objection to the costume. __________________ "You IDIOTS! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -from "Spaceballs" "Where Science ends, magic begins." -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491 My various stories and fan-fics are now here- https://m.fanfiction.net/u/4770494/#end

01-21-2016, 09:25 AM	#1378
MikeandRaph87 Jedi Master Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: JLA Satellite Headquarters Posts: 11,189	Danny Trejo known for humor and over the top violence would be perfect for the role of Lobo if reports are true. Where would Lobo fut into DC cinematic puzzle? https://www.yahoo.com/news/danny-tre...225553770.html __________________ Michelangelo: This looks like a job for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Raphael: Sheesh, Mikey this ain't a cartoon!

01-25-2016, 09:32 PM	#1380
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Lots of new stuff. New pics: Two new TV spots (The second, Batman-centric one has more brand-new footage): And this little doozy, from the "KnightMare Scene" (which I'm more and more convinced isn't actually Bruce's literal nightmare, but a vision given to Diana by the Oracle of Themyscira, as some of the rumors have persisted... but who knows?). Note the image scorched into the ground: Spoiler: ALL IS ONE IN DARKSEID, BITCHES! Not a bad start to the week.

01-20-2016, 12:10 AM	#1363
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Yeah, but I agree that one's got all the seams and stuff for no reason. What a trend, I tellya. Ah well. I mean, the 1990 show's costume was pretty spot-on, but... man, it's very much a 1990 super-hero costume, y'know?

01-20-2016, 01:27 PM	#1368
Krutch Like, stupid rich. Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Rawkzone Posts: 2,808	Probably not going to be a popular opinion, but I think in order to make the Flash costume work it needs to be practical from the neck down and use tracking marks to map the mask part. If its practical it bends and folds in all the wrong ways and it'd need to be looked at at just the right angles to work.

01-20-2016, 03:44 PM	#1370
Krutch Like, stupid rich. Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Rawkzone Posts: 2,808	For example, on the TV show, they've used a type of latex rubber to make the mask he wears. Which is flexible and looks good when still, but it tends to bend in awkward ways more times than not... And thats literally from the first random episode I skimmed through. It's hard not to notice. And spandex wouldn't work because its restrictive to the actors face and, if its too loose, it sags. If its too tight, it bridges around where the nose gaps and you're left with the opposite problem with what the above pic looks like. You can use a type of glue(which Grant Gustin used for the first nine episodes) to the material but it doesn't completely solve the problem and actually creates new ones. So what I'm recommending is make the suit from the neck down, then put tracking markers around the neck collar and on his face. That way the CGI mask that you'd graph on him can always stick to his skin while matching the same texture consistency as the rest of the suit.

01-20-2016, 04:24 PM	#1374
~~Commenter 42~~ Banned Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 3,954	I think a full CGI suit could totally work. I'm not a fan of bulky, unless it makes sense for the character. I'm old school, and always vote for tights and flights. The GL CG idea was good, the execution wasn't. Biggest problem with GL glowing in daylight, is that things don't glow in daylight. This practical work was awesome though - CG can look this good, it just never does these days. If this had been a full suit, it would have been very cool:

01-20-2016, 10:49 PM	#1375
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	That reminds me about something neat they've done with the newest Batman costume, is try some new things to maximize Affleck's ability to actually move in the suit. They've put some hidden seams in the mask so he can actually turn his head, without the entire thing looking like Bale's stupid motorcycle helmet, so that's neat, but more specific to this conversation, is that for a lot of the action and fight scenes, he's actually not wearing sleeves on the costume. In every Batman movie, they've struggled with how to make the suit mobile enough to do action and fight scenes in, but in this one, they came up with the idea to just add the sleeves later using CGI, meaning this is the first onscreen Batman who can actually raise his arms. Which explains why he looks so fluid in those shots where he's tearing into groups of guys all at once. I would've never even thought of it, but it seems to have been a brilliantly simple idea. Imagine, using CGI as a little icing on top instead of the entire damn cake. Who'da thunk it?

01-21-2016, 01:56 AM	#1376
~~Commenter 42~~ Banned Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 3,954	Good CG is invisible. Good CG is magic. It can be great. On a side not, I re-watched Star Wars on blu-ray the other day, and man...that CG has not aged well. He butchered those shots... Also, SW:ANH is, kind of crappy and boring, tbh. Robbie's costume is growing on me - It's nuts how much the camera loves her.