OFFICIAL NEW EPISODE DISCUSSION: "Clash of the Turtle Titans" - Page 7

*iris* · 11-01-2006, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by R-iZZy

I'm sorry, but there is just no way you could justify their over-usage of that damn phrase. Fast Forward wouldn't be so painful to watch if they didn't force that BS phrase in EVERY SINGLE EPISODE! I mean is it so hard for Leo to just say "Let's go guys" for once?

Was I trying to justify it? No. I was just saying it could be worse, but thank goodness for the TMNT writers we have. They probably are required to put a catch-phrase in by whoever has the money, and I'm not sure it could be downplayed much more than it already is.

*gobo* · 11-01-2006, 09:52 PM

Sounds like someone needs a nap...

*iris* · 11-01-2006, 10:25 PM

*Sewer Bull* · 11-02-2006, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by J Legault

Anyways I liked this one a lot. Was anyone else surprised that they got away with saying the word Nazis? Which you don't hear too often in a Y7 rated cartoon.

What's wrong with this word used in the show anyway? It was purely a historical reference in that context, not an insult.

The ep was fine. I liked the paranoid Mikey. No yawning this time.

Bevandera · 11-02-2006, 11:21 AM

It's weird, but I was a little surprised they said it too...I don't know what the exact rules are, but I think ratings-wise cartoons tend to stay away from it. Justice League had a time-travel episode that was shown at 10:30 at night, and while I *think* they said Nazi a few times, they mostly said "German forces" or "Germany", and they didn't use the swastika, but the iron cross instead.

If I had to guess, I'd say parents don't want their kids asking "what's a swastika" or "what's a Nazi".

*Raph's Girl* · 11-02-2006, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bevandera

If I had to guess, I'd say parents don't want their kids asking "what's a swastika" or "what's a Nazi".

Yea but in the TMNT Archie comics series Hitler's brain was one of their enemies and they even went back in time and faced Hitler himself (Raphael amusingly punched his lights out...then Hitler killed himself after they left.)

*Anarky* · 11-02-2006, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Raph's Girl

Yea but in the TMNT Archie comics series Hitler's brain was one of their enemies and they even went back in time and faced Hitler himself (Raphael amusingly punched his lights out...then Hitler killed himself after they left.)

Or maybe Hitler was a fascist commanding German forces into WWII. You never know with those wacky cartoon characters...

*Sage Ninja* · 11-02-2006, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by iris

It might be a good idea to actually see the episode before you make a call like that.

Mikey's fun-loving personality makes him seem on the whole more immature than the other guys. He takes a lot of questionable risks, especially in his fighting style, but where with Raph it's seen as "omigawd what a bad-boy!" with Mike it's seen as "omigawd what a baby!"

Was Mike immature in this episode? Youbetcha. That doesn't bug me, however, because I think all of them have the right be a bit immature. They're supposed to be teenagers.

But Mike has his moments.

I like how you take one sentence out of my entire post and just respond to that. What I was trying to say is that I wish this series wouldn't embelish his character and dumb him down and make him act more immature just to fit the more kidafied turn this franchise has taken. I just want to see Mikey take stepps foward not back, and as of last season it seemd that the writters had decided to make him less a victim of the all mighty laugh. But you are right. I ammaking a judgement based on what other people have said and I should make my own. its just other than you every one here has said Mikey was unforgivably selfish, jealous,and immature and that hasn't made me feel to uncouraged to go see this episode as a result. Its painful to a see a character you like written poorly, even it stays relatively true to his character flaws, and the impression I got was that the writting for Mikey's character wasn't given justice in this episode.

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I agre I'd watch it also if i hadn't seen it yet. I think if anything though Fast Forward now has added more to mikes Characters than the 2k3 series ever did. Well atleast in this episode anyways..I never once saw mike care so much about turtle titan as he did now. He always just acted like a moron before where as now he seems to have a passion for things he likes.

That sounds intersting. I've always wanted to see Mikey passinate about something and given a little more insight to what makes him tick.

The Big Bad · 11-02-2006, 06:16 PM

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Bevandera: It's weird, but I was a little surprised they said it too...I don't know what the exact rules are, but I think ratings-wise cartoons tend to stay away from it. Justice League had a time-travel episode that was shown at 10:30 at night, and while I *think* they said Nazi a few times, they mostly said "German forces" or "Germany", and they didn't use the swastika, but the iron cross instead.

They may not have used the word in that episode (I personally don't remember, although I'm pretty sure they didn't) but they did use it in episodes following it. If I remember correctly, they even managed to include the swastika in one of the later episodes of Justice League Unlimited.

As for the episode, it was the best episode (so far) of the season. Fast Foward is now safely back on track after some rocky initial episodes.

The characters, for once, were not annoying. Biggles and Serling have earned their keep here, Turtle Titan II is nice guest-star, and Triple Threat, while not the most complex character in the world, was fun here (I especially liked the sight gag of having its first two heads fighting among themselves while the third one just read the comic book)—he’s definitively one of the better “give the heroes someone to fight” antagonists (I especially liked the right head's suggestion that they use the Turtle Titans as Salt and Pepper Shakers).

Also, I guess we can all lay to rest the idea that this series will somehow disregard the events of the previous series; this episode was all about the continuity porn. It was a real treat seeing some of the characters from previous seasons in the “Fast Forward” style. While the Shredder, Foot Soldiers, and Silver Sentry came out of it looking okay, Hun and the Purple Dragons (did anybody spot Dragonface? First time we’ve seen him since Season 2)…didn’t. Still, I wonder if we’ll ever see “flashbacks” like that, perhaps of Casey and April. Also, from "Nobody: The Comic Book Series" to the statue of President Bishop at the Rockefeller Center, it was reference day today.

Speaking of the Rockefeller Center, I continue to be surprised at the way the creators have re-imagined New York. In re-designing the city, I think the creators have taken the most realistic approach possible. Manhattan will still be Manhattan--not even a hundred years will change that. Finding old and/or new versions of familiar NYC landmarks has been great.

*iris* · 11-02-2006, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sage Ninja

I like how you take one sentence out of my entire post and just respond to that. What I was trying to say is that I wish this series wouldn't embelish his character and dumb him down and make him act more immature just to fit the more kidafied turn this franchise has taken. I just want to see Mikey take stepps foward not back, and as of last season it seemd that the writters had decided to make him less a victim of the all mighty laugh. But you are right. I ammaking a judgement based on what other people have said and I should make my own. its just other than you every one here has said Mikey was unforgivably selfish, jealous,and immature and that hasn't made me feel to uncouraged to go see this episode as a result. Its painful to a see a character you like written poorly, even it stays relatively true to his character flaws, and the impression I got was that the writting for Mikey's character wasn't given justice in this episode.

I also said Mikey was a jerk.

But the episode is more nuanced than that, and I think it's worth seeing. Then again, I liked the ep, so maybe that colors my judgement.

I like Mikey too.

I'm sorry that pulling out the sentence made you feel that I was only responding to a tiny part of your statement. I only did that for clarity, because you presented many ideas in your post and that sentence represented the general idea to which I was trying to respond. And I'm kind of stupid so large blocks of text confuse my wee brain.

*Raph's Girl* · 11-02-2006, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Big Bad

Finding old and/or new versions of familiar NYC landmarks has been great.

Old: Broadway

New: Sidway

McDonald's is still around too appernatly (look at the top of the image below). Aaand.. so is The Lion King:

Just a couple things I've noticed.

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Bevandera Foot Soldier Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: California/Florida Posts: 140	It's weird, but I was a little surprised they said it too...I don't know what the exact rules are, but I think ratings-wise cartoons tend to stay away from it. Justice League had a time-travel episode that was shown at 10:30 at night, and while I think they said Nazi a few times, they mostly said "German forces" or "Germany", and they didn't use the swastika, but the iron cross instead. If I had to guess, I'd say parents don't want their kids asking "what's a swastika" or "what's a Nazi". __________________ TMNT Costume Gallery: (Casey Jones, Karai, April, Purple Dragon, Mobster) My Leonardo/Karai music video to "Pain" by Jimmy Eat World: