New Episode Discussion: "Meet Casey Jones" - Page 7

**Kali** · 03-05-2003, 10:33 AM

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Speaking of Casey and his weapons...what happened to guns? At least in the old toon, Rocksteady and Behop have guns-look-alike. (Not saying the old toon's better than the new one though) How can the Purple Dragon be the most terrifying street gang in NY when all they're carrying are knives and metal pipes? Hate to say it, but I don't think Casey will be any match against Purple Dragons with hand-guns....heck, I'm not sure the Turtles would win either.

They're pushing it with all the violence in this series, the last thing they need is to add more fuel to the fire. They don't want to give the censors anything to hold against them, so I doubt we'll ever see a gun. And the Turtles have won against hand guns, and even more powerful firearms.

Modern weapons aren't all they're cracked up to be. I love looking at weapons, swords, guns, etc. and when push comes to shove, a hockey stick can do as much, if not more damage, plus you probably won't get thrown in jail for just carrying one around like you would a "real weapon".

*Jephael* · 03-05-2003, 11:16 AM

Hey everyone's aware of. Look at what they did to E.T., replacing the guns with walkie talkies, and I know they did something with a scantily clad woman in one of those James Bond films (of coarse, that's a different kind of censoring).

Ndoe · 03-05-2003, 02:38 PM

well i must say that u wacth too much South Park
"saving private rian , where all guns are replaced with walkie-talkies..."
lol

Vroomkid · 03-05-2003, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ndoe

well i must say that u wacth too much South Park
"saving private rian , where all guns are replaced with walkie-talkies..."
lol

Haha, yea, I guess you guys are all right about the gun issue (and no actually, I don't watch South Park at all

)...and speaking of the violence level, it sort of freaks me out with that shot of Casey's shadow beating up the Purple Dragons.

Don't get me wrong though, I'm just presenting the issue as a speculation, not some downer criticizing the new toon.

Sparvid · 03-06-2003, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Ndoe

well i must say that u wacth too much South Park
"saving private rian , where all guns are replaced with walkie-talkies..."
lol

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Coming this summer, it's the motion picture that changed America. Saving Private Ryan, the Re-re-release, where the word "nazi" has been changed to "persons with political differences", and all their guns have been replaced by walkie-talkies.

**HorseTechie** · 03-06-2003, 11:37 AM

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Phew! I'm glad to hear I'm not the only person eyeing every large truck and thinking...hmmmm...that looks like the Battle Shell...

It's bad, isn't it! I'm even thinking that the PT Cruiser looks like a smaller version of the Battle Shell too!

*will not go into what Autobots have done to her mind*

But.. on a slightly like note, the guns. I think there is some law that real bullet-firing guns are not to be associated with kids shows, and kids in general.

For example, in the reissue of ET, they edited out the guns in the cops hands and put in walkie talkies. With the first generation of Transformer, Megatron was turned into a tank since his gun mode was too realistic.

I forgot when this had happened, but I heard that some kids with realistic toy guys were playing around, when a cop droving by. He stopped and had to investigate the situation because he thought they really were playing with guns. Guns + kids =

Thus... guns kill too easy. It takes some toughness and training to know how to kill with anything else. *shrug*

*J Legault* · 03-06-2003, 06:18 PM

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"Cricket" HAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!

Speaking of Casey and his weapons...what happened to guns? At least in the old toon, Rocksteady and Behop have guns-look-alike. (Not saying the old toon's better than the new one though) How can the Purple Dragon be the most terrifying street gang in NY when all they're carrying are knives and metal pipes? Hate to say it, but I don't think Casey will be any match against Purple Dragons with hand-guns....heck, I'm not sure the Turtles would win either.

Anyway, back to Cricket and Casey, when you really think about it - exactly how meancing are baseball clubs, hockey stick and a golf club comparing to the array of modern weapons? But then, Casey's cool so I'll be quiet now before the Casey fans dish out their sporting equipment.

1. Guns would cause more violence. And then the show would be bound from the Fox Box forever. And boom no more TMNT. So it's good it doesn't have any gore at all.

2. I just like the sene in TMNT 1 with the Casey and Raph and the Cricket Bat.
Casey Jones would have a Sporting Good Store membership card. I always say this on the other posts, and here it goes: Casey Jones walking down the street saying" Anyone for a game of Cricket?"

*Eye of Sarnath* · 03-07-2003, 02:31 PM

I think it's only slightly obvious why there are no guns in the toon. Heck, that ep was violent enough without guns. The things that really stuck in my mind were when Raph came after Mike with that pipe, and when you see Casey's shadow in the alley, beating the Purple Dragons with his hockey sitck. It didn't bother me at all, just surprised to see that kinda stuff.

**HorseTechie** · 03-07-2003, 02:48 PM

But... what I liked about the Raph/Casey ep, is that while they displayed violent motives, the violent ACT itself was stopped (or trying to be stopped).

They were hoping to emphasize that violence of that nature is bad and shouldn't be encouraged. Thus, notice how they take many of the damaging hits off scene. Or the fight style between Raph and Casey at the end. Out of sight, with only glimpses of them to be seen.

Of course, after I had also seen a number of Asian gang focused films... guns are only used for the highest ranking members. All the others used their bare hands, knifes, and on the occasion, strange weapons (like ashtrays, wooden swords, sushi knives, etc)

Blades · 03-07-2003, 05:14 PM

*Blinks* Wait a second..... Did you just say they use ASHTRAYS as weapons?!

Okkkkaaaaaaayyyyy...

Edit: BTW, newbie here ^_^

*Raven* · 03-07-2003, 08:21 PM

I think that elevator is from the utroms they proubly built it and used to use that sewer area for somthing?
and wow it had the best actioon Ive seen in long time thats on regular channels

*J Legault* · 03-07-2003, 09:26 PM

No skin off my back. I know April will appear in tomorrow's episode.
And a chance to see her antique shop.

PanMan · 03-07-2003, 09:54 PM

i'd prefer hand-to-hand combat as opposed to guns firing at a distance . . . sword fights are especially awesome

Shadow · 03-07-2003, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by HorseTechie

But.. on a slightly like note, the guns. I think there is some law that real bullet-firing guns are not to be associated with kids shows, and kids in general.

Not so my friend, on a very old tv show for nickelodeon The Tomorrow People they had quite a few hand guns...that may have changed since the early 90's maybe its just cartoon or something???

*R-iZZy* · 03-08-2003, 12:58 AM

That was the 90's... times have changed now. Butts are no longer controversial... Ninja Turtles are back... and I'm actually halfway sane.

Sorry for going off-topic, but I truly think guns are being banned severely. I understand that censors are trying to protect the public... but maybe it's going too far? Eh... anyway, I truly think that guns should be on the new cartoon series. It was on the old series, at least let there b lasers.

**DarthRaphael** · 03-08-2003, 09:08 AM

This thread is complete.

03-05-2003, 11:16 AM	#122
Jephael That whack job behind you Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania Posts: 8,143	Hey everyone's aware of. Look at what they did to E.T., replacing the guns with walkie talkies, and I know they did something with a scantily clad woman in one of those James Bond films (of coarse, that's a different kind of censoring). __________________ "I like it. Simple, but effective!" Raphael; The Mean Machines - 1988

03-05-2003, 02:38 PM	#123
Ndoe Random Punk Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 16	well i must say that u wacth too much South Park "saving private rian , where all guns are replaced with walkie-talkies..." lol __________________ Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles !!!

03-07-2003, 02:31 PM	#128
Eye of Sarnath Mad Scientist Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NY Posts: 1,590	I think it's only slightly obvious why there are no guns in the toon. Heck, that ep was violent enough without guns. The things that really stuck in my mind were when Raph came after Mike with that pipe, and when you see Casey's shadow in the alley, beating the Purple Dragons with his hockey sitck. It didn't bother me at all, just surprised to see that kinda stuff. __________________ "When I was real small I heard about this thing called the decline of civilization... and I decided that it was something I would like to become involved in." -George Carlin

03-07-2003, 05:14 PM	#130
Blades Thug Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 95	Blinks Wait a second..... Did you just say they use ASHTRAYS as weapons?! Okkkkaaaaaaayyyyy... Edit: BTW, newbie here ^_^ __________________ In God we trust, all others we virus scan. ~Author Unknown

03-07-2003, 09:26 PM	#132
J Legault Mad Scientist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: West Coast Posts: 2,054	No skin off my back. I know April will appear in tomorrow's episode. And a chance to see her antique shop. __________________ I am a fan of TMNT and I'm still one today. I got into the habbit back in 1992 or 93' when I was little. I would like to thank my 2 year older cousin for getting me in the habbit. 2001 was when I revised my knowledge on TMNT. And today I'm a bigger fan than I was years ago. I have all 3 TMNT Movies, current Toon, and old school Toon on DVD.

03-07-2003, 02:48 PM	#129
HorseTechie Inactive Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Midwest Posts: 5,677	But... what I liked about the Raph/Casey ep, is that while they displayed violent motives, the violent ACT itself was stopped (or trying to be stopped). They were hoping to emphasize that violence of that nature is bad and shouldn't be encouraged. Thus, notice how they take many of the damaging hits off scene. Or the fight style between Raph and Casey at the end. Out of sight, with only glimpses of them to be seen. Of course, after I had also seen a number of Asian gang focused films... guns are only used for the highest ranking members. All the others used their bare hands, knifes, and on the occasion, strange weapons (like ashtrays, wooden swords, sushi knives, etc)

03-07-2003, 08:21 PM	#131
Raven follower of Jesus Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,212	I think that elevator is from the utroms they proubly built it and used to use that sewer area for somthing? and wow it had the best actioon Ive seen in long time thats on regular channels

03-07-2003, 09:54 PM	#133
PanMan Stone Warrior Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 728	i'd prefer hand-to-hand combat as opposed to guns firing at a distance . . . sword fights are especially awesome __________________ My name is Pan . . . and I am the Man! [February 19, 2005] I believe that The Shredder will appear in the New Cartoon past Season 3

03-08-2003, 12:58 AM	#135
R-iZZy The Long Con Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: G'ville, FL (Gator Country), USA Posts: 3,007	That was the 90's... times have changed now. Butts are no longer controversial... Ninja Turtles are back... and I'm actually halfway sane. Sorry for going off-topic, but I truly think guns are being banned severely. I understand that censors are trying to protect the public... but maybe it's going too far? Eh... anyway, I truly think that guns should be on the new cartoon series. It was on the old series, at least let there b lasers. __________________

03-08-2003, 09:08 AM	#136
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