Steve Murphy on "The Forever War" - Page 7

*CyberCubed* · 11-05-2009, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TristanHuwJones

I don't think it would do any good. Unless we could get a writer that could do it over night, and an artist that could bang the whole thing out before December 15, then it would miss the End-of-Year Deadline.

Is there any reason it can't be worked on till May 2010?

Let me get this straight, Mirage isn't allowed to print comics outside the Mirage universe? Mirage can no longer do anything with the Archie universe?

That seems really strange to me. Its still a comic book.

TristanHuwJones · 11-05-2009, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Is there any reason it can't be worked on till May 2010?

Let me get this straight, Mirage isn't allowed to print comics outside the Mirage universe? Mirage can no longer do anything with the Archie universe?

That seems really strange to me. Its still a comic book.

Dude, it's been stated plenty of times now why this can't happen. Nick owns everything, but they've allowed Peter to continue publishing HIS stories to very specific guidelines. Tales is being allowed to run until #70, because that was something already in place, much like the other contracts Viacom are honoring until they need to be renewed.

*CyberCubed* · 11-05-2009, 10:59 PM

And if, for some reason, Peter wants to do another comic that is not part of Volume 4, a one-issue special if you will, it wouldn't be allowed?

*oldmanwinters* · 11-05-2009, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TristanHuwJones

I don't think it would do any good. Unless we could get a writer that could do it over night, and an artist that could bang the whole thing out before December 15, then it would miss the End-of-Year Deadline.

I was thinking more along the lines of a Nick/Viacom approved project, but it really wouldn't be the same without Chris Allan's art.

If nothing else, I'd just love to know where Murphy was intending to go with the plot.

TristanHuwJones · 11-05-2009, 11:02 PM

That I'm not so sure about. It might have to be something set exclusively in the Mirage U... I'll see what I can find out.

*Andrew NDB* · 11-06-2009, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

And if, for some reason, Peter wants to do another comic that is not part of Volume 4, a one-issue special if you will, it wouldn't be allowed?

As long as it's Mirage Universe and it meets the page # limit it would be allowed, from my understanding.

Though I do bet there's another layer to the clause that is something like, "Even though Peter Laird/Mirage can publish 18 Mirage TMNT books a year, they'll still kind of need to give us a rough, brief heads up as to what those contain and we'll need to skim'em over."

darthsmozers · 11-06-2009, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by TristanHuwJones

That I'm not so sure about. It might have to be something set exclusively in the Mirage U... I'll see what I can find out.

well, since that issue of Tales showed a sort of multiverse, then I guess all TMNT universes are fair game

I KID!!

darthsmozers · 11-06-2009, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

I was thinking more along the lines of a Nick/Viacom approved project, but it really wouldn't be the same without Chris Allan's art.

I dont know if he even knows, since he recently scrapped his ideas and wanted to start over again.

and i think if we go down the path of another writer and artist, it opens the door to heavy criticism, like "so and so wouldn't have done it that way", etc.

~~Lieutenant Granitor~~ · 11-06-2009, 12:51 PM

Is Forever War based on Turtles Forever, or is it some comics remix or something? I would love that to come out, if Murphy doesn't do it, I'll make him do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mythril_7 · 11-06-2009, 01:18 PM

Whether Murphy gets blamed or not, doesn't make me any less upset that I don't get to see an attempt at closure.

*Andrew NDB* · 11-06-2009, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Lieutenant Granitor

Is Forever War based on Turtles Forever

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

No.

*ZariusTwo* · 11-07-2009, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Lieutenant Granitor

Is Forever War based on Turtles Forever, or is it some comics remix or something? I would love that to come out, if Murphy doesn't do it, I'll make him do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Will you skip school on that occasion too?

*Powder* · 11-07-2009, 03:38 AM

ban ban ban

I'm done.

DMC362 · 11-07-2009, 06:42 AM

Correct me if I am wrong but I remembering reading an interview with Chris Allan (late 90s early 00s) that said the story was about Shredder going back in time stopping the turtles mutation. Before they were erased from time Future Don with his dying breath pulled the guys out of the time line. The rest of the story was about them fighting Shredder in the new time line that was created. Some part of this was implied when Murphy posted some old pages on his blog.

The interview also had the proposed cover art for the series also. Which has been re-posted many times since then.

I posted this because some asked what the orginal story was so I though I would share the little info I remember.

Tuxedo Moroboshi · 11-07-2009, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Lieutenant Granitor

Is Forever War based on Turtles Forever, or is it some comics remix or something?

What? Ugh, no. Not even close. The Forever War is the ending story to the Archie TMNT universe.

*CyberCubed* · 11-07-2009, 10:52 PM

I guess I will have to continue to use "Year of the Turtle" as the end of the Archie run.

Even though it was done by different people, it was more of an ending to the Archie run than anything else.

TristanHuwJones · 11-07-2009, 11:08 PM

That was actually written by one of my favourite comics writers.

*oldmanwinters* · 11-07-2009, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I guess I will have to continue to use "Year of the Turtle" as the end of the Archie run.

Even though it was done by different people, it was more of an ending to the Archie run than anything else.

I figured even back in the day that "Year of the Turtle" was Archie's Plan B for ending the series. Even still, it satisfied me as an ending to the series in spite of some discontinuity issues with the established canon up to that point.

I really liked Yoshi's line to Mikey at the end:
"That was the last Turtles story. Now you know them all."

Spoiler:

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Originally Posted by TristanHuwJones

That was actually written by one of my favourite comics writers.

I would also add: "well illustrated!"

*Roseangelo* · 11-07-2009, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

I figured even back in the day that "Year of the Turtle" was Archie's Plan B for ending the series.

No, it wasn't.

*oldmanwinters* · 11-07-2009, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Roseangelo

No, it wasn't.

Um, Plan C then?

Or were they looking to jumpstart a whole new continuity if the sales were good enough?

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Mythril_7 New Recruit Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 3	Whether Murphy gets blamed or not, doesn't make me any less upset that I don't get to see an attempt at closure. Last edited by Mythril_7; 11-06-2009 at 01:27 PM.

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TristanHuwJones Official TMNT Staff/Cast Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 1,419	That was actually written by one of my favourite comics writers. __________________ Still alive (somehow)... tristansbones.bsky.social and instagram @ instagram.com/tristans_bones

11-05-2009, 10:59 PM	#123
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,873	And if, for some reason, Peter wants to do another comic that is not part of Volume 4, a one-issue special if you will, it wouldn't be allowed?

11-06-2009, 12:51 PM	#129
~~Lieutenant Granitor~~ Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Dimension X, Michigan, Farmington Hills, Detroit Posts: 221	Is Forever War based on Turtles Forever, or is it some comics remix or something? I would love that to come out, if Murphy doesn't do it, I'll make him do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

11-07-2009, 03:38 AM	#133
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,955	ban ban ban I'm done.

11-07-2009, 06:42 AM	#134
DMC362 Foot Soldier Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Augusta, Ga Posts: 121	Correct me if I am wrong but I remembering reading an interview with Chris Allan (late 90s early 00s) that said the story was about Shredder going back in time stopping the turtles mutation. Before they were erased from time Future Don with his dying breath pulled the guys out of the time line. The rest of the story was about them fighting Shredder in the new time line that was created. Some part of this was implied when Murphy posted some old pages on his blog. The interview also had the proposed cover art for the series also. Which has been re-posted many times since then. I posted this because some asked what the orginal story was so I though I would share the little info I remember.

11-07-2009, 10:52 PM	#136
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,873	I guess I will have to continue to use "Year of the Turtle" as the end of the Archie run. Even though it was done by different people, it was more of an ending to the Archie run than anything else.