Your honest opinion of the 1987 cartoon - Then and Now - Page 7

Konchadunga · 08-20-2014, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Hannurdock

Now, it is ... what it is. It's a kids TV show from the 80's, nostalgia aside, no worse or better than others of it's day.

I couldn't disagree more. Many of the classic cartoons of the 1980s, such as both MOTU shows, Thundercats, The Scooby and Scrappy Doo Show, and especially the shows intended for girls, are close to unwatchable to me as an adult because of their glaring lack of self-awareness. TMNT managed to tick the boxes of their formula while also having jokes that were still funny to the adults. I will grant it had some competition, such as The Real Ghostbusters, but that had the benefit of being based on a comedy movie not intended for kids.

*THGhost* · 08-20-2014, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Fast Forward didn't suck at all, many of its episodes were just as good as the other seasons.

Oh you do amuse.

I was talking about the theme, not the show.

You have to admit though, the show was pretty cringe-worthy.

*Powder* · 08-20-2014, 06:30 PM

Fast Forward was great. Opinions.

~~Davetello~~ · 08-20-2014, 10:33 PM

Agree with Powder, CC and others. FF is actually really quite good and gets better on rewatches - it's just the animation style which is off-putting. I rewatch this season over a few days and it was excellent. There were some solid stories there. I still prefer Ninja Tribunal but FF was good.

Lisardo · 08-20-2014, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Konchadunga

I couldn't disagree more. Many of the classic cartoons of the 1980s, such as both MOTU shows, Thundercats, The Scooby and Scrappy Doo Show, and especially the shows intended for girls, are close to unwatchable to me as an adult because of their glaring lack of self-awareness. TMNT managed to tick the boxes of their formula while also having jokes that were still funny to the adults. I will grant it had some competition, such as The Real Ghostbusters, but that had the benefit of being based on a comedy movie not intended for kids.

As I'm rewatching the OS, I can't help but get a feel for satire, like so many comical shows/toons have these days. Seems there's a bit of light humor/poking fun of pop culture and stuff. Just not as much as shows like South Park or Family Guy. Either way, this kind of humor made grown-ups giggle.

*plastroncafe* · 08-20-2014, 11:28 PM

Fast Forward will always be tainted for my by the fact that they created Cody rather than just using Shadow.

That said, I can just imagine the glee in the writers' room when writing Turtles in Tron.

*THGhost* · 08-21-2014, 11:23 AM

"FF is good" as "TMNT III has a certain charm to its story" and is "better than The Secret of the Ooze". This place is really diverse.

cammy85 · 08-21-2014, 04:37 PM

Every season has a different feel to it. The early Saturday seasons were goofier and of course there are the hit-or-miss solo adventures but they got better. It's ard to wach random episodes anymore. Just depends on the mood, I guess.

*Jephael* · 08-21-2014, 05:11 PM

I love showing episodes to my little nephew. He really enjoys watching it, though he still hasn't quite grasped the aspect of the characters.

*LeotheLateBloomer* · 08-22-2014, 12:20 AM

FF is a fine season. Not as good as the first five seasons of course but interesting. Same for BttS.

*neatoman* · 08-22-2014, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Powder

Fast Forward was great. Opinions.

Tom Waltz agrees, no really, Tom Waltz like Fast Forward a lot.

Hannurdock · 08-24-2014, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by THGhost

"FF is good" as "TMNT III has a certain charm to its story" and is "better than The Secret of the Ooze". This place is really diverse.

I know. I like it.

If we all had the same opinions, it would be a boring place.

*CyberCubed* · 08-24-2014, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Davetello

Agree with Powder, CC and others. FF is actually really quite good and gets better on rewatches - it's just the animation style which is off-putting. I rewatch this season over a few days and it was excellent. There were some solid stories there. I still prefer Ninja Tribunal but FF was good.

Agreed. Had the animation of FF been the same as the first 5 seasons, and the stupid catch phrase, "It's Ninja Time!" not existed, the season would have been viewed as almost as good.

I also agree FF gets better upon rewatches. I don't know why but everytime I rewatch it I like it a bit more than before.

Cryomancer · 08-24-2014, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Fast Forward will always be tainted for my by the fact that they created Cody rather than just using Shadow.

This annoys me too.

But otherwise FF was decent to good depending on the episode. It was one of the few cartoon retools that actually felt like a good change of pace, and actually was almost nearly un-retooled back in the next season. So it actually is like getting a "break" from the ongoing show which is almost never a thing that happens.

TMNT_2010 · 08-24-2014, 08:49 PM

I remember loving the show back in the day and always going home after school to watch it.

A few years ago I rediscovered my love for the turtles and I decided to rewatch the show. To my surprise, it holds up very well. Especially compared to other shows of that time which are near impossible to watch anymore.

There is a lot of humour in there that only an adult would find dunny. My only rule when watching it is that I never watch any episode that doesn't have James Avery as the shredder. He brings the character to life and its hard to imagine the show without him. Once the show hits the vacation episodes I also don't bother watching it. The first 6 season are my favourite.

Mellie · 08-25-2014, 11:20 AM

I will forever love the show because it's what got me into Turtles, but re-watching a couple episodes recently.. it was hard to get through. The fact that they narrate everything that's going on ("It's gonna hit that building!", "I'll use my --- to knock out the ---!" etc) was annoying me, lol.

Still I'm planning on marathoning the whole series before the 2016 sequel. I was so young when it was on I don't remember much.

arkangel · 08-25-2014, 11:30 AM

At the risk of being deported, I'll say with honesty that I wasn't into the original cartoon at all and never will be. I appreciate the nostalgia it invokes for fans and it's not that I dislike it, but I was in Grade 10 when the series started and my fandom was already firmly placed in the Mirage series. Not really an age thing as I'm still collecting tmnt comics and customizing toys. I just think I would have been more taken by it had it been my first exposure to the TMNT universe. Most of us also have a "black period" where we move away from our childhood fandoms in our 20s only to come back to it with feverish intensity when we can spot middle age around the corner. lol

Ulisa · 08-25-2014, 12:23 PM

It's still my favorite of the TV series (though 2k3 is not far behind) and while not all the episodes are great, I think a majority of them are good, with a few being horrible and a few being excellent!

For me, I love the charterization on these turtles, especially Mikey. Still my favorite after all these years and I still say the Fred Wolf version is my favorite because he is likable, relatable yet still capable of holding his own. The other versions seem to push the "little brother" angle too much, making him come across as incompetent.

I like Leo in this version because he does have periods where he wants to goof off and isn't portrayed as the number 1 student all the time. I like 2k3 Leo, a lot actually, but in the later seasons I didn't see as much of his playful side.

Yes the adventures can be dumb; yes, they can far fetched but I loved the whole "anything goes" concept of this series. If the episode kept me entertained, it did its job. I like all the wacko characters they introduced. It actually made a great contrast once the series took on that darker tone. The scene where Shredder blows up Channel 6 stuck with me as a child and it still stands out to me now, probably because of the contrast to the lighter episodes prior.

*Wesley* · 10-20-2014, 01:39 PM

I loved the show as a child and thought it was the best thing ever. The cartoon seemed more serious to me when I was 12. I thought it was an action cartoon with some comedy in it. I don't love it as an adult. I don't mind that it was really a comedy with some action. A lot of episodes haven't aged well. I think seasons one, two, three, seven and eight were the best (I still like some episodes from other seasons, though). The cartoon was an inconscient show. There were too many episodes made and it could've been condensed into 5 seasons. It has aged better than other shows such as Sonic SatAM and Spider-Man, though.

I like its version of Raphael, Casey, Shredder, Rat King and Leatherhead. There are annoying catchphrases and too many pizza jokes. I don't like Zach or Carter. Dregg was an okay villain, but he seemed to be evil for the sake of being evil and didn't have much of a personality (I liked him better in season 10, though). I don't mind the other characters like Big Louie, Barney Stockman and Buffy Shellhammer.

I like that the show doesn't take itself too seriously. The 2003 cartoon did that too often. Krang and Shredder's banter is still funny (they really do act like a married couple). I think half of the episodes are still enjoyable to watch, but the good is far outweighed by the bad in seasons 4, 5, 6 and 9. I haven't watched most of the episodes for years, though, since only some DVDs are available in Ireland, but I thought a few episodes on the Cowabunga Classics dvd were somewhat boring to watch as an adult such as Planet of the Turtloids.

I prefer the 2003 cartoon. The OT was a product of its time, but parts of it still hold up well. I watched it every now and then from the early 1990s to late 2000s on RTE Two, so it's not down to nostalgia that I like the show. It's one of those guilty pleasure type shows like Charmed and 2 Broke Girls.

08-21-2014, 11:23 AM	#127
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08-21-2014, 05:11 PM	#129
Jephael That whack job behind you Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania Posts: 8,143	I love showing episodes to my little nephew. He really enjoys watching it, though he still hasn't quite grasped the aspect of the characters. __________________ "I like it. Simple, but effective!" Raphael; The Mean Machines - 1988

10-20-2014, 01:39 PM	#139
Wesley Mad Scientist Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Republic of Ireland Posts: 1,597	I loved the show as a child and thought it was the best thing ever. The cartoon seemed more serious to me when I was 12. I thought it was an action cartoon with some comedy in it. I don't love it as an adult. I don't mind that it was really a comedy with some action. A lot of episodes haven't aged well. I think seasons one, two, three, seven and eight were the best (I still like some episodes from other seasons, though). The cartoon was an inconscient show. There were too many episodes made and it could've been condensed into 5 seasons. It has aged better than other shows such as Sonic SatAM and Spider-Man, though. I like its version of Raphael, Casey, Shredder, Rat King and Leatherhead. There are annoying catchphrases and too many pizza jokes. I don't like Zach or Carter. Dregg was an okay villain, but he seemed to be evil for the sake of being evil and didn't have much of a personality (I liked him better in season 10, though). I don't mind the other characters like Big Louie, Barney Stockman and Buffy Shellhammer. I like that the show doesn't take itself too seriously. The 2003 cartoon did that too often. Krang and Shredder's banter is still funny (they really do act like a married couple). I think half of the episodes are still enjoyable to watch, but the good is far outweighed by the bad in seasons 4, 5, 6 and 9. I haven't watched most of the episodes for years, though, since only some DVDs are available in Ireland, but I thought a few episodes on the Cowabunga Classics dvd were somewhat boring to watch as an adult such as Planet of the Turtloids. I prefer the 2003 cartoon. The OT was a product of its time, but parts of it still hold up well. I watched it every now and then from the early 1990s to late 2000s on RTE Two, so it's not down to nostalgia that I like the show. It's one of those guilty pleasure type shows like Charmed and 2 Broke Girls. Last edited by Wesley; 10-20-2014 at 01:48 PM.

08-20-2014, 06:30 PM	#123
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,945	Fast Forward was great. Opinions.

08-20-2014, 10:33 PM	#124
~~Davetello~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Greater Glasgow, Scotland, The Ununited Kingdom Posts: 1,712	Agree with Powder, CC and others. FF is actually really quite good and gets better on rewatches - it's just the animation style which is off-putting. I rewatch this season over a few days and it was excellent. There were some solid stories there. I still prefer Ninja Tribunal but FF was good.

08-21-2014, 04:37 PM	#128
cammy85 Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Minnedosa, MB Canada Posts: 772	Every season has a different feel to it. The early Saturday seasons were goofier and of course there are the hit-or-miss solo adventures but they got better. It's ard to wach random episodes anymore. Just depends on the mood, I guess.

08-22-2014, 12:20 AM	#130
LeotheLateBloomer Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 3,117	FF is a fine season. Not as good as the first five seasons of course but interesting. Same for BttS.

08-24-2014, 08:49 PM	#135
TMNT_2010 Thug Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 73	I remember loving the show back in the day and always going home after school to watch it. A few years ago I rediscovered my love for the turtles and I decided to rewatch the show. To my surprise, it holds up very well. Especially compared to other shows of that time which are near impossible to watch anymore. There is a lot of humour in there that only an adult would find dunny. My only rule when watching it is that I never watch any episode that doesn't have James Avery as the shredder. He brings the character to life and its hard to imagine the show without him. Once the show hits the vacation episodes I also don't bother watching it. The first 6 season are my favourite.

08-25-2014, 11:20 AM	#136
Mellie Foot Soldier Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 184	I will forever love the show because it's what got me into Turtles, but re-watching a couple episodes recently.. it was hard to get through. The fact that they narrate everything that's going on ("It's gonna hit that building!", "I'll use my --- to knock out the ---!" etc) was annoying me, lol. Still I'm planning on marathoning the whole series before the 2016 sequel. I was so young when it was on I don't remember much.

08-25-2014, 11:30 AM	#137
arkangel Hench Mutant Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 444	At the risk of being deported, I'll say with honesty that I wasn't into the original cartoon at all and never will be. I appreciate the nostalgia it invokes for fans and it's not that I dislike it, but I was in Grade 10 when the series started and my fandom was already firmly placed in the Mirage series. Not really an age thing as I'm still collecting tmnt comics and customizing toys. I just think I would have been more taken by it had it been my first exposure to the TMNT universe. Most of us also have a "black period" where we move away from our childhood fandoms in our 20s only to come back to it with feverish intensity when we can spot middle age around the corner. lol

08-25-2014, 12:23 PM	#138
Ulisa Foot Soldier Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Various Fantasy Realms Posts: 145	It's still my favorite of the TV series (though 2k3 is not far behind) and while not all the episodes are great, I think a majority of them are good, with a few being horrible and a few being excellent! For me, I love the charterization on these turtles, especially Mikey. Still my favorite after all these years and I still say the Fred Wolf version is my favorite because he is likable, relatable yet still capable of holding his own. The other versions seem to push the "little brother" angle too much, making him come across as incompetent. I like Leo in this version because he does have periods where he wants to goof off and isn't portrayed as the number 1 student all the time. I like 2k3 Leo, a lot actually, but in the later seasons I didn't see as much of his playful side. Yes the adventures can be dumb; yes, they can far fetched but I loved the whole "anything goes" concept of this series. If the episode kept me entertained, it did its job. I like all the wacko characters they introduced. It actually made a great contrast once the series took on that darker tone. The scene where Shredder blows up Channel 6 stuck with me as a child and it still stands out to me now, probably because of the contrast to the lighter episodes prior.