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Old 12-21-2014, 02:58 PM   #121
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Yup, you've convinced me- it was solar wind. Definitely a studio on the moon. I guess all those "moon rocks" they brought back were faked, too? I've YET to see anyone explain THAT as a hoax!!
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Old 12-21-2014, 03:26 PM   #122
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Here's some stuff about the rocks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSIlgQhUi9A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AQQHTjeMkA
http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...Revisited&aq=f

What Happened on the Moon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W79mIGx9Ib4
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Old 12-21-2014, 03:32 PM   #123
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He's Jarrah if he's linking him. I don't even know who that is, but they sound the same from what I heard.
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I'd listen. Gorilla don't f*ck around.
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Old 12-21-2014, 05:15 PM   #125
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Yep, makes me think he's Jarrah under a new name.
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Old 12-22-2014, 03:03 AM   #126
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Do I dare ask who Jarrah is/was?
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Old 12-22-2014, 08:52 AM   #127
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A crazy guy who used to be a part of the forums who hated NASA and kept saying the moon landings were fake and things like that. He was also obsessed with Venus porn. I wasn't around when he was, but I've heard things, and he definitely sounds like a nutcase.
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Old 12-22-2014, 01:55 PM   #128
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Do I dare ask who Jarrah is/was?
Check out his work before you judge.

http://blog.happierabroad.com/2010/0...sie-whips.html
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=moonfaker
http://www.moonfaker.com/home.html

This is especially good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5ajIVmGiQE
MoonFaker: Phil Plait, Mythbusters & Dirty Tricks.

It gets really good in part 2.

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Old 12-22-2014, 02:38 PM   #129
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I love how this thread became a discussion about physics. Luckily I kept my physics college book incase anyone needs formulas or anything

I also found this and I love it!

http://www.askmen.com/top_10/enterta...-happened.html
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How the shell does this discussion keep continuing page after page?! Has this guy talked about anything other than how much he wants the moon mission to be fake?
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Can someone do a double-check on this guy's IP so we can verify if this he is or isn't Jarrah?
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Too bad there are rules, We could just post some Venus porn and gauge his reaction. That'd clinch it.
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Old 12-22-2014, 04:03 PM   #133
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Too bad there are rules, We could just post some Venus porn and gauge his reaction. That'd clinch it.
My mind would explode from hilarious moments that would follow lol
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A crazy guy who used to be a part of the forums who hated NASA and kept saying the moon landings were fake and things like that. He was also obsessed with Venus porn. I wasn't around when he was, but I've heard things, and he definitely sounds like a nutcase.
Oi.
Now, I can understand everything, but obsession with "Venus porn"?!
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Old 12-22-2014, 05:11 PM   #135
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Yep, this guy was apparently in love with it.

And I agree with Leo that if it weren't for rules, that would be the best way to gauge his reaction.
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Old 12-23-2014, 07:14 AM   #136
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Regarding this-
http://uk.askmen.com/top_10/entertai...-happened.html

Here's some stuff about the Soviets.

https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...+cold+war&aq=f

http://www.nardwuar.com/vs/bill_kaysing/index.html
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Well, why did they keep faking the Apollo flights, I still don't understand. Did the Soviet Union know it was faked? Why did they keep shut up if they knew it was faked? 'Cause a lot of people would think they kept the moon race going to prove the U.S. was better than the Soviet Union. If the Soviet Union knew, why did they let the U.S. get away with this?
Well, I'll tell you - at the highest levels there is a coalition between governments. In other words, the Soviets said, if you won't tell on us - and they faked most of their space exploration flights - we won't tell on you. It's as simple as that. See, what Apollo is, is the beginning of the end of the ability of the government to hoodwink and bamboozle and manipulate the people. More and more people are becoming aware in the U.S. that the government is totally and completely public enemy number one.
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http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moon.htm
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The Soviets, with their own competing moon program and an intense economic and political and military rivalry with the USA, could be expected to have cried foul if the USA tried to fake a Moon landing. Theorist Ralph Rene responds that shortly after the alleged Moon landings, the USA silently started shipping hundreds of thousands of tons of grain as humanitarian aid to the allegedly starving USSR. He views this as evidence of a cover-up, the grain being the price of silence. (The Soviet Union in fact had its own Moon program).
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Everyone should read Chomsky's analysis of the cold war.
http://libcom.org/history/articles/c...?quicktabs_1=0
(excerpt)
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On the domestic front, the Cold War helped the Soviet Union entrench its military-bureaucratic ruling class in power, and it gave the US a way to compel its population to subsidise high-tech industry. It isn't easy to sell all that to the domestic populations. The technique used was the old stand-by-fear of a great enemy.
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The fact that there are lots of photographs doesn't prove that the photographs weren't taken in a studio.

I alread posted some info on the rocks.

The faact that we don't read that no one on the inside disputed it doesn't mean anything.

http://theconspiracyzone.podcastpeople.com/posts/27709
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Q: Why do prominent astronomers like Sir Bernard Lovell and Patrick Moore support the Moon landings if they were faked?

A: Scientists and astronomers around the globe know full well that the Moon missions were faked, but rely on NASA to gain access to the vital data beamed back to Earth from the Hubble space telescope. They cannot slag off NASA otherwise NASA would deprive them of this essential information, which they so much require.
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Q: What about the vast number of people involved in Apollo, wouldn’t someone have spoken out.

A: Pan’s claim there were half a million people involved in the Apollo program, but that includes all the humble engineers working on machine parts in many companies around the globe. So if someone is making a part in some engineering factory in Seattle, and his boss tells him it’s for the Apollo spacecraft, is that engineer proof the landings took place? No of course it is not proof, and even if that engineer knew they never made it to the Moon, he would still brag to his friends that he made a part that went to the Moon just to make him feel proud in some way or other. Parts for the Apollo program were made at many different factories around the globe. For example the laser reflector supposedly left on the Moon was manufactured in France. NASA collected the unit from the French company, and that was the last they saw of it. It’s probably stashed away in some archive at Langley, but one things for certain it’s not on the Moon. Are those French engineers proof they landed on the Moon? No of course not, as very few, (probably less than 200 people), were actually involved in bringing the whole lot together, so as to minimize what was actually taking place. No need for any of them to speak out because (A) They are 100% patriotic to the USA, and would say nothing that would go against America, even if it were true. (B) They do not need millions of dollars to safeguard their future, as they have already received substantial amounts from NASA just to “keep mum”. Read comments from people who worked on the Apollo program in the APOLLO FEEDBACK section.
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It could have been faked more than once. They could have used the same studio more than once. Anyway, nothing on that page makes the clear proof of a hoax go away.
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Old 12-23-2014, 08:16 AM   #137
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Regarding this-
http://uk.askmen.com/top_10/entertai...-happened.html

Here's some stuff about the Soviets.

https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...+cold+war&aq=f

http://www.nardwuar.com/vs/bill_kaysing/index.html
(excerpt)
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Well, why did they keep faking the Apollo flights, I still don't understand. Did the Soviet Union know it was faked? Why did they keep shut up if they knew it was faked? 'Cause a lot of people would think they kept the moon race going to prove the U.S. was better than the Soviet Union. If the Soviet Union knew, why did they let the U.S. get away with this?
Well, I'll tell you - at the highest levels there is a coalition between governments. In other words, the Soviets said, if you won't tell on us - and they faked most of their space exploration flights - we won't tell on you. It's as simple as that. See, what Apollo is, is the beginning of the end of the ability of the government to hoodwink and bamboozle and manipulate the people. More and more people are becoming aware in the U.S. that the government is totally and completely public enemy number one.
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http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moon.htm
(excerpt)
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The Soviets, with their own competing moon program and an intense economic and political and military rivalry with the USA, could be expected to have cried foul if the USA tried to fake a Moon landing. Theorist Ralph Rene responds that shortly after the alleged Moon landings, the USA silently started shipping hundreds of thousands of tons of grain as humanitarian aid to the allegedly starving USSR. He views this as evidence of a cover-up, the grain being the price of silence. (The Soviet Union in fact had its own Moon program).
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Everyone should read Chomsky's analysis of the cold war.
http://libcom.org/history/articles/c...?quicktabs_1=0
(excerpt)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
On the domestic front, the Cold War helped the Soviet Union entrench its military-bureaucratic ruling class in power, and it gave the US a way to compel its population to subsidise high-tech industry. It isn't easy to sell all that to the domestic populations. The technique used was the old stand-by-fear of a great enemy.
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The fact that there are lots of photographs doesn't prove that the photographs weren't taken in a studio.

I alread posted some info on the rocks.

The faact that we don't read that no one on the inside disputed it doesn't mean anything.

http://theconspiracyzone.podcastpeople.com/posts/27709
(excerpts)
---------------------------------------------
Q: Why do prominent astronomers like Sir Bernard Lovell and Patrick Moore support the Moon landings if they were faked?

A: Scientists and astronomers around the globe know full well that the Moon missions were faked, but rely on NASA to gain access to the vital data beamed back to Earth from the Hubble space telescope. They cannot slag off NASA otherwise NASA would deprive them of this essential information, which they so much require.
---------------------------------------------
Q: What about the vast number of people involved in Apollo, wouldn’t someone have spoken out.

A: Pan’s claim there were half a million people involved in the Apollo program, but that includes all the humble engineers working on machine parts in many companies around the globe. So if someone is making a part in some engineering factory in Seattle, and his boss tells him it’s for the Apollo spacecraft, is that engineer proof the landings took place? No of course it is not proof, and even if that engineer knew they never made it to the Moon, he would still brag to his friends that he made a part that went to the Moon just to make him feel proud in some way or other. Parts for the Apollo program were made at many different factories around the globe. For example the laser reflector supposedly left on the Moon was manufactured in France. NASA collected the unit from the French company, and that was the last they saw of it. It’s probably stashed away in some archive at Langley, but one things for certain it’s not on the Moon. Are those French engineers proof they landed on the Moon? No of course not, as very few, (probably less than 200 people), were actually involved in bringing the whole lot together, so as to minimize what was actually taking place. No need for any of them to speak out because (A) They are 100% patriotic to the USA, and would say nothing that would go against America, even if it were true. (B) They do not need millions of dollars to safeguard their future, as they have already received substantial amounts from NASA just to “keep mum”. Read comments from people who worked on the Apollo program in the APOLLO FEEDBACK section.
---------------------------------------------

It could have been faked more than once. They could have used the same studio more than once. Anyway, nothing on that page makes the clear proof of a hoax go away.
O.k. I may be misunderstanding something. It seems to me that you are claiming that the Soviets had this mega secret illuminati pack with the U.S. to not rat about the moon landings being fake? That just sounds absurd. I know my cold war drama pretty well because I was a history major and I doubt the Soviets would have this illuminati pack just to get some grain.
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How many Dead Baby jokes will it take to get you to bail? Is it six? I have more than six. Most people bail after about two, but you seem to be of sterner stuff than most.
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O.k. I may be misunderstanding something. It seems to me that you are claiming that the Soviets had this mega secret illuminati pack with the U.S. to not rat about the moon landings being fake? That just sounds absurd. I know my cold war drama pretty well because I was a history major and I doubt the Soviets would have this illuminati pack just to get some grain.
You've been schooled in mainstream American information. Mainstream American info gives an upside-down picture of what's really happening. Start getting your info from alternative sources such as these.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/
http://www.ihr.org/

You should read Noam Chomsky's analyses of the American media...
http://www.chomsky.info/
https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...sky+media&aq=f

...and those of other anti-establishment pundits.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=ES&hl=es&v=Wi5h3vZl6uo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbnxsPgcsH0

Mainstream American historians are propogandists. Start reading the works of revisionist historians such as Mark Weber.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Qx6sIReMcA

Get informed on what the US really does in the world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Qx6sIReMcA
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You've been schooled in mainstream American information. Mainstream American info gives an upside-down picture of what's really happening. Start getting your info from alternative sources such as these.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/
http://www.ihr.org/

You should read Noam Chomsky's analyses of the American media...
http://www.chomsky.info/
https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...sky+media&aq=f

...and those of other anti-establishment pundits.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=ES&hl=es&v=Wi5h3vZl6uo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbnxsPgcsH0

Mainstream American historians are propogandists. Start reading the works of revisionist historians such as Mark Weber.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Qx6sIReMcA

Get informed on what the US really does in the world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Qx6sIReMcA
O.k. I am going to let that slide because you are an English teacher and are not that educated on these topics. I said I was a history major. I am not an "American" history major. I studied world history. I research Roman culture for fun dude. You can't pull the conspiracy theory concept on someone who reads history for enjoyment. If I was in high school or something, then I can understand the idea that the books may be biased. That is not the case. The case is that your theory is flawed with a world power not speaking out. If the grain is what bought the Russian's commitment, then what stopped them from spilling the beans after the grain was shipped or after the Union dissolved? Oh and please have a good excuse because I research things and I will look into your reasoning.
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