Viacom Registers New Trademark for New TMNT Project "TMNT: The Next Chapter"

[Roseangelo]

It sounds like you need to stop thinking of interests as being made for a specific gender.

And yes, the companies to make content could stand to stop targeting genders as well, but as consumers of content there's no reason to get hung up on who something is made for. If you like it, you like it. If you don't, you don't.

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by sdp

Are the girls/women buying merch and licensed material , if not they don't matter.

Edit:in the context of a show being made for them

Make it a good show with good looking merchandise I can't resist and I certainly will.

Anyone who walked into this room I'm sitting in and took one quick look around would immediately know what I'm a fan of and who most within that franchise. lol

[CyberCubed]

The Nick 2012 show had a active female following due to the Turtles looking more cute than usual, the anime aspects, or ships with April, Karai, etc. Plus the spread of social media and the internet now.

When 2k3 was airing most of the female fans just seemed to be the same old-school fans who grew up with the original cartoon, I don't recall many of them claiming the 4kids series was their first exposure to TMNT.

[srmff]

Growing up, my brother and I watched all the same shows and movies together. He'd watch the stereotypical female targeted shows with me like Barbie, Disney princesses, My Little Pony, etc. while I'd also watch the action cartoons, movies, etc. with him that are generally targeted towards boys rather than girls like TMNT, Yu-Gi-Oh! (we played the card game together and still both play on the app and with physical cards that he collects), Lord of the Rings, X-Men, Transformers, Digimon, etc.

The same situation applied to our toys. I liked to view it as a Shrek sort of universe where lots of different stories came together. We had Snow White's Kingdom and other characters like Barbie Anneliese, Erica and Dominick (who was a bigamist because they decided to make Julian and Dominick a 2-in-1 doll and I was not going to keep changing his clothes), Aladdin, Jasmine, the Bratz, Shrek, the Shredder, Marik, Yami Yugi, Gaia the Dragon Champion, various dragons, Digimon and various others. We'd often have random wars break out. The rule was that no character could die once they were inside the boundaries of the kingdom (the room) so we could happily have a massacre with them all back to life once the war ended. We played with the Lord of the Rings and Star Wars action figures separately since they were too small. It still amuses me how much we changed some of their personalities just because the toy version of the character would have a dopey look on their face (Aladdin) or look a bit evil (Snow White).

I'm not big into merchandise. However, all my brother bought was the Shredder action figure and a sticker book. I've bought 5 DVDs from the 1987 show, all the seasons of the 2012 show, the Ultimate Visual History book and The Art of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles book so I've bought more than my brother anyway. I'd like to get a ninja turtle action figure sometime. I imagine that the only reason that my brother didn't buy one when he was younger was that they didn't look very good as action figures at the time.

When I was in school, most girls wouldn't have watched Yu-Gi-Oh!, TMNT, etc. but the ones who did all had older brothers as far as I know. For some reason though, all the girls the class ahead of me all seemed to be very into Yu-Gi-Oh! with them bringing their cards to school and trading them. It was an all-girl school so it wasn't due to the influence of male classmates. It completely by-passed my class bar a few.

[superstaff]

Originally Posted by sdp

Are the girls/women buying merch and licensed material , if not they don't matter.

Edit:in the context of a show being made for them

Can't speak for other girls/women, but I've bought tons of figures, accessories, comics, DVDs, etc. I'm currently into TMNT, so I am buying more turtle merch than normal. I raided various Party Citys recently, trying to buy 2012 TMNT merch.

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

The Nick 2012 show had a active female following due to the Turtles looking more cute than usual, the anime aspects, or ships with April, Karai, etc. Plus the spread of social media and the internet now.

I figured.

When 2k3 was airing most of the female fans just seemed to be the same old-school fans who grew up with the original cartoon, I don't recall many of them claiming the 4kids series was their first exposure to TMNT.

From my experience, a lot of them were mildly acquainted with the 80s series, but allege that what got them into TMNT was 2003. Though, eh. Like, I was a part of a roleplaying game with other female fans, and I'd try to talk about the current arcs in 2003 TMNT, and they'd kind of...steer away from talking about that, and would mostly want to talk about how (insert turtle) was hot, and whatever pairings they liked. They didn't seem very interested in discussing the actual show most of the time.

[Powder]

Originally Posted by superstaff

From my experience, a lot of them were mildly acquainted with the 80s series, but allege that what got them into TMNT was 2003. Though, eh. Like, I was a part of a roleplaying game with other female fans, and I'd try to talk about the current arcs in 2003 TMNT, and they'd kind of...steer away from talking about that, and would mostly want to talk about how (insert turtle) was hot, and whatever pairings they liked. They didn't seem very interested in discussing the actual show most of the time.

The bulk of the female fanbase, for almost any iteration, seems to be like this. I know it's absolutely an obnoxious boys club, like many things, which makes it less accessible to take part in, but seriously, this is sooo prevalent. Happens with guys in female aimed or female character dominant properties, too, I'm not trying to make a subtle commentary or something.

The early days of internet fandom speak especially strong to this. I remember being online in the 90's & early 2000's, the amount of women peddling erotic fan-fics & roleplays, or just having general locker room talk about the turtles was overwhelming & put me off joining in any communities for maaad years. Even here, though it was better moderated, of course. More fluff than snuff.

In my experience, the women who actively collect merch or seek turtle talent at cons, are not like that. Obviously, there are plenty of real fans among ladies everywhere! But there's real thirst out there.

[CyberCubed]

I think it's so weird to look for shipping in the TMNT franchise. Other than the obvious April/Casey (which is usually kinda boring IMO in most versions), there's not much to say. Females shipping the Turtles with each other is just the same toxic nonsense males are accused of doing with females in other shows, but at least said females are humans.

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

but at least said females are humans.

Uh huh... pretty sure I recall more than one discussion here about a certain Thundercat, for example.


Some guys just don't seem to like it when girls do it too. lol I mean, I get it, most male fans aren't going to see what some female fans do and it prob makes most of ya uncomfortable to hear it, but can't really stop women from being women and seeing male characters like that sometimes, human or not.


edit: I almost kind of wish PD had brought back Venus, because knowing Bay they'd have tried to make her attractive, and it would have been kind of funny to see how uncomfortable some male viewers are with that... lol

[sdp]

I misread the discussion and though it was about tmnt not being targeted to girls, but it was more because some troll account so my post made no sense. What I thought the discussion was "how come they don't target to girls". Women can enjoy anything but there's data on who buys things and they cater to those since anything else means they might lose their jobs. Girls can like whatever they want and I welcome female fans in fandoms, but I agree most girl fans do tend to be the "shipping" variety which aren't the best but whatever.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Uh huh... pretty sure I recall more than one discussion here about a certain Thundercat, for example.

Cheetara... Pumyra... can't really go wrong with either one, says I.

Brings a whole new visual to mind when one hears the phrase "cat bath". "Meow", indeed.

[CyberCubed]

I just remembered this short from a few years ago, imagine if they made a series off of this concept:



^ This had great animation, but I don't like the idea of humans being main characters.

[superstaff]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I just remembered this short from a few years ago, imagine if they made a series off of this concept:



^ This had great animation, but I don't like the idea of humans being main characters.

I remember hating that while I was watching it, but then it gets to the end, and I was like, "OHHH! Okay! That was cute."

I think, if they ever did a TMNT series set in the future, I'd like to be similar to this, except maybe have some mutants mixed in with the humans.

Problem is, at that point, it's not really Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles anymore, is it? It's a whole different entity, even if one of the TMNT is still present.

[Sumac]

I'll play a Scarlet Witch for this and say: "No more mutants".

If there is an aspect of TMNT, which, IMO, should be excluded from future incarnations, is an abundance of mutants. Just keep TMNT and maybe occasional random mutant here and there, but no "mutant of the week" or "mutant town" nonsense. That just cheapens TMNT existence and quickly devolves "funny cartoon animals thing".

[superstaff]

Originally Posted by Sumac

I'll play a Scarlet Witch for this and say: "No more mutants".

If there is an aspect of TMNT, which, IMO, should be excluded from future incarnations, is an abundance of mutants. Just keep TMNT and maybe occasional random mutant here and there, but no "mutant of the week" or "mutant town" nonsense. That just cheapens TMNT existence and quickly devolves "funny cartoon animals thing".

On one hand, I agree. I like the idea of them just being 'freaks' in a cruel world with ruthless ninjas and other dangers around them. One of the worst aspects of the 2012 series was its 'mutation fetish'. Look, I loved 2012 TMNT, but they overdid it on the mutants and freaks (Casey was one of the few relevant humans in the entire series).

On the other hand, I do like some of the mutants and weirdness. This is also something the toy companies (ie Playmates) wants, so they can sell more merch.

I think a balance needs to be struck, and they try a 'best of both worlds' approach.

[Zachatello00]

Originally Posted by Sumac

no "mutant of the week" or "mutant town" nonsense. That just cheapens TMNT existence and quickly devolves "funny cartoon animals thing".

This, all day long. It's fun when you have a few storylines here and there where the turtles can walk around and be themselves, like the turtles in space arc, or something like that, but for the most part, yeah, keep that stuff to a minimum.

[sdp]

I found some information !

Inspired by the best selling TMNT comic by IDW we bring you TMNT The next chapter. A new 2D traditionally animated series based off the wildly popular comic book.

We all know the story of the turtles but not what happens next after the shredder is defeated! Mutagen has gotten everywhere and they're all restricted to a city called Mutant Town where they are discriminated against.

We are very excited to announce this new show based on the fan favorite arc as it will deal with all the contemporary issues society is facing and educate on what is expected from today so everyone no matter gender, race or species can feel safe!

[CyberCubed]

Kek, I know that's a joke

[Vegita-San]

good god I hope that's a joke. just what we need. SJW tmnt.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

good god I hope that's a joke. just what we need. SJW tmnt.

That's IDW TMNT's current story arc, so it is going on.

[Zachatello00]

what's the source of the info? I can't find that anywhere...