Leonardo? - Page 8

Spike The Xenomorph · 10-28-2002, 07:43 PM

what's stupid?

**Karpo_007** · 10-28-2002, 07:43 PM

The humanoid alien thing... And the whole movie.

Spike The Xenomorph · 10-28-2002, 07:44 PM

oh, agreed!

*Eye of Sarnath* · 10-28-2002, 07:47 PM

I like Leo the least (try saying that 5 times fast!) 'cause I can't relate to him. Raph's my fave, because he's the one I'm most similar to, personality wise. Yeah, I'm a hothead.

**Karpo_007** · 10-28-2002, 07:48 PM

Almost 4am and school day tomorrow... Gotta go to sleep. luckily my first classes are at 11.

Spike The Xenomorph · 10-28-2002, 07:49 PM

Mine are at 10

prowler4 · 10-28-2002, 08:10 PM

Leo and Mike are tied for first in my book.

Spike The Xenomorph · 10-28-2002, 08:12 PM

Some punk was harassing my gf!

*heretic888* · 10-29-2002, 12:22 PM

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Muscle power is neede in order to use a weapon. But it's not just muscles, Whwn you get older, your speed decreases. An old man is not as agile as young one. Of course we will never know what would happen if there were a fight...

Really? Well, allow me to introduce you to Dr. Masaaki Hatsumi, 34th Grandmaster of the Togakure-ryu Ninjutsu tradition. Yeah, you see, he's running about 70 now but he moves more gracefully, more quickly, and can produce more power than his students 30 years younger than him!

MOST old men are not as powerful or as fast as they once were because they have not learned to focus INNER strength (ki) and they neglected to stretch during their lives. Such is NOT the case with Dr. Hatsumi or Splinter!

Besides, ninpo utilizes flowing, full-body dynamism when fighting with OR without weaponry! Seventy-year old Hatsumi can still use a battlefield bisento (Japanese halberd) with the best of them!!! You'd be surpised how much power one can generate when you use the WHOLE body instead of just an arm or leg, especially when the inner power of ki is involved!!! Mucle, schmucle!!

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well... this is a tough one... on one hand we know that in old age, mitochondria deteriate, musscle mass goes away and such but on the other hand we have the idea of ninjitsu as the flowing relaxed movements of the body with precisness rather then utter strenghth....

Muscle mass does decrease with age, true, but then again ninpo taijutsu does not rely on muscular exertion to perform the movements. Seriously, there was once a man in his 80's that could perform ninjutsu quite skillfully!! Full-bodied, momentum-building, flowing, relaxed, natural movement is what characterizes the ninja fighting style not physical strength and speed. Like Dr. Hatsumi said, the older a ninja gets the stronger he gets. Taijutsu is what is important, not weight-lifting.

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Say whatever you want, I'd rather go up in a fight with one of the Turtles than Splinter. It only takes one, single blow to take someone out, and it doesn't even need to be a hard one. Bet Splinter knows all those pressure point tricks.

Yes, but the turtles know pressure point fighting as well. All strikes in ninjutsu are aimed a pressure point of some kind or another. Regardless, Splinter is undoubtedly much more agile and much more powerful than his students.....

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good thing Xenomorphs have no pressure points!

Unless they are robots, xenomorphs would have pressure points (praticularly with a humanoid anatomy). All living creatures have pressure points.

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Pulse rifle shmulse rifle! That is the weakest gun that any1 has ever used against me! I remember the last person who used 1 on me, used 3 chips & 2 gernades, didn' even scratch me!

If I recall correctly, a shotgun blast was capable of blowing a xenomorph's/alien's head off.....

*Kameko* · 10-29-2002, 12:28 PM

Heretic, does your train of thought have a caboose?

*heretic888* · 10-29-2002, 12:38 PM

depends on what i had for breakfast....

seriously though, just trying to prove a point against some really ignorant misconceptions.....

Spike The Xenomorph · 10-29-2002, 01:54 PM

Ignorant my eye! nothing is more painful then to allow there "humanoids" talk smack about my species!

1) Due to our thick exoskeleton, Xenomorphs HAVE NO PRESSURE POINTS!

2)I have been hit by friggin gernade rounds & they are a heck of alot more powerful than a shotgun round will EVER be!

3) What humanoid anatomy? Do I look like a human to you?

If yes: "Buy some bloody glasses for you need your vision checked!"

If no: "Good! And it had better stay that way!"

*heretic888* · 10-29-2002, 02:01 PM

1) Due to our thick exoskeleton, Xenomorphs HAVE NO PRESSURE POINTS!

how stupid. this may suprise you, but no creature is completely armored EVERYWHERE. if that were so, then there would be next to no mobility of movement. In the natural creases and folds of even the most powerful of armor, there is a weak point.

2)I have been hit by friggin gernade rounds & they are a heck of alot more powerful than a shotgun round will EVER be!

if you recall the movie "Aliens", a xenomorph which was trying to break into a marine transport (or something) had a shotgun put up to his face and when the trigger was pulled the face was no longer there. Of course, then there was the whole acid issue.........

3) What humanoid anatomy? Do I look like a human to you?

yes. bipedal posture, opposable thumbs, approximately five digits on both hands and feet, humanoid physique...... how much more do you need?

Spike The Xenomorph · 10-29-2002, 02:09 PM

how stupid. this may suprise you, but no creature is completely armored EVERYWHERE. if that were so, then there would be next to no mobility of movement. In the natural creases and folds of even the most powerful of armor, there is a weak point.

I think I would know for I am a Xenomorph buddy! Here *gives heretic a rocket launcher w/ 2 rounds.* Shoot me with this! If that doesn't convince you * hands him a flame thower w/ full feul* use this then!

if you recall the movie "Aliens", a xenomorph which was trying to break into a marine transport (or something) had a shotgun put up to his face and when the trigger was pulled the face was no longer there. Of course, then there was the whole acid issue.........

1) Acid? What acid?
2) Any movie that makes fun of my bretheren is not worth watching! *thinks to himself* <<I knew we should of signed our contracts with George Lucas!>>

yes. bipedal posture, opposable thumbs, approximately five digits on both hands and feet, humanoid physique...... how much more do you need?

So Oola the twi'lek, Watto the Toydarian, Sebulba, & those Reploids, eg. Megaman have those same abilities! Does that make THEM human?

*Kameko* · 10-29-2002, 02:15 PM

Heretic, do they ever shut-up on your planet?

Give the guy a break, it's his fantasy, not yours. It doesn't have to be perfect or logical. If logic were an issue, the turtles would have never come into 'existence' in the first place. I mean, think about it.

**Machias Banshee** · 10-29-2002, 02:18 PM

Yes, please....

Spike The Xenomorph · 10-29-2002, 02:18 PM

What fantasy, Kameko?

*Kameko* · 10-29-2002, 02:22 PM

Spike, you're scary. Don't make me sic my brothers on you. Raph! Leo!

(I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it!

)

**Machias Banshee** · 10-29-2002, 02:22 PM

Welcome to the club....

*Kameko* · 10-29-2002, 02:30 PM

10-28-2002, 07:43 PM	#141
Spike The Xenomorph Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Hive Posts: 517	? what's stupid? __________________ Pointless sayings: "If at first you don't succeed, hack and hack again!" - Cream The Rabbit

10-28-2002, 07:44 PM	#143
Spike The Xenomorph Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Hive Posts: 517	yup! oh, agreed! __________________ Pointless sayings: "If at first you don't succeed, hack and hack again!" - Cream The Rabbit

10-28-2002, 07:49 PM	#146
Spike The Xenomorph Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Hive Posts: 517	cool, huh? Mine are at 10 __________________ Pointless sayings: "If at first you don't succeed, hack and hack again!" - Cream The Rabbit

10-28-2002, 08:10 PM	#147
prowler4 Hench Mutant Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 297	Leo and Mike are tied for first in my book. __________________ GO GREEN MACHINE!

10-28-2002, 08:12 PM	#148
Spike The Xenomorph Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Hive Posts: 517	O\/O Some punk was harassing my gf! __________________ Pointless sayings: "If at first you don't succeed, hack and hack again!" - Cream The Rabbit

10-28-2002, 07:43 PM	#142
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	The humanoid alien thing... And the whole movie.

10-28-2002, 07:47 PM	#144
Eye of Sarnath Mad Scientist Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NY Posts: 1,590	I like Leo the least (try saying that 5 times fast!) 'cause I can't relate to him. Raph's my fave, because he's the one I'm most similar to, personality wise. Yeah, I'm a hothead.

10-28-2002, 07:48 PM	#145
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Almost 4am and school day tomorrow... Gotta go to sleep. luckily my first classes are at 11.

10-29-2002, 12:28 PM	#150
Kameko Sister to the TMNT Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Los Angeles, California, USA Posts: 2,756	Heretic, does your train of thought have a caboose?

10-29-2002, 12:38 PM	#151
heretic888 Foot Elite Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,344	hmmmm depends on what i had for breakfast.... seriously though, just trying to prove a point against some really ignorant misconceptions..... __________________ "Ninpo began as training to become a moral people and to learn to endure in whatever social condition one is in; to know and accept one's fate, and to live for human beings and all other creatures. The person who masters all of these is a Ninja." (Masaaki Hatsumi)

10-29-2002, 01:54 PM	#152
Spike The Xenomorph Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Hive Posts: 517	Humanoid! Ignorant my eye! nothing is more painful then to allow there "humanoids" talk smack about my species! 1) Due to our thick exoskeleton, Xenomorphs HAVE NO PRESSURE POINTS! 2)I have been hit by friggin gernade rounds & they are a heck of alot more powerful than a shotgun round will EVER be! 3) What humanoid anatomy? Do I look like a human to you? If yes: "Buy some bloody glasses for you need your vision checked!" If no: "Good! And it had better stay that way!" __________________ Pointless sayings: "If at first you don't succeed, hack and hack again!" - Cream The Rabbit

10-29-2002, 02:01 PM	#153
heretic888 Foot Elite Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,344	my answers 1) Due to our thick exoskeleton, Xenomorphs HAVE NO PRESSURE POINTS! how stupid. this may suprise you, but no creature is completely armored EVERYWHERE. if that were so, then there would be next to no mobility of movement. In the natural creases and folds of even the most powerful of armor, there is a weak point. 2)I have been hit by friggin gernade rounds & they are a heck of alot more powerful than a shotgun round will EVER be! if you recall the movie "Aliens", a xenomorph which was trying to break into a marine transport (or something) had a shotgun put up to his face and when the trigger was pulled the face was no longer there. Of course, then there was the whole acid issue......... 3) What humanoid anatomy? Do I look like a human to you? yes. bipedal posture, opposable thumbs, approximately five digits on both hands and feet, humanoid physique...... how much more do you need? __________________ "Ninpo began as training to become a moral people and to learn to endure in whatever social condition one is in; to know and accept one's fate, and to live for human beings and all other creatures. The person who masters all of these is a Ninja." (Masaaki Hatsumi)

10-29-2002, 02:09 PM	#154
Spike The Xenomorph Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Hive Posts: 517	Brace yourself how stupid. this may suprise you, but no creature is completely armored EVERYWHERE. if that were so, then there would be next to no mobility of movement. In the natural creases and folds of even the most powerful of armor, there is a weak point. I think I would know for I am a Xenomorph buddy! Here gives heretic a rocket launcher w/ 2 rounds. Shoot me with this! If that doesn't convince you * hands him a flame thower w/ full feul* use this then! if you recall the movie "Aliens", a xenomorph which was trying to break into a marine transport (or something) had a shotgun put up to his face and when the trigger was pulled the face was no longer there. Of course, then there was the whole acid issue......... 1) Acid? What acid? 2) Any movie that makes fun of my bretheren is not worth watching! thinks to himself <<I knew we should of signed our contracts with George Lucas!>> yes. bipedal posture, opposable thumbs, approximately five digits on both hands and feet, humanoid physique...... how much more do you need? So Oola the twi'lek, Watto the Toydarian, Sebulba, & those Reploids, eg. Megaman have those same abilities! Does that make THEM human? __________________ Pointless sayings: "If at first you don't succeed, hack and hack again!" - Cream The Rabbit

10-29-2002, 02:15 PM	#155
Kameko Sister to the TMNT Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Los Angeles, California, USA Posts: 2,756	Heretic, do they ever shut-up on your planet? Give the guy a break, it's *his* fantasy, not yours. It doesn't have to be perfect or logical. If logic were an issue, the turtles would have never come into 'existence' in the first place. I mean, think about it.

10-29-2002, 02:18 PM	#156
Machias Banshee Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 17,163	Yes, please....

10-29-2002, 02:18 PM	#157
Spike The Xenomorph Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Hive Posts: 517	This is REAL What fantasy, Kameko? __________________ Pointless sayings: "If at first you don't succeed, hack and hack again!" - Cream The Rabbit

10-29-2002, 02:22 PM	#158
Kameko Sister to the TMNT Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Los Angeles, California, USA Posts: 2,756	Spike, you're scary. Don't make me sic my brothers on you. Raph! Leo! (I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it! )

10-29-2002, 02:22 PM	#159
Machias Banshee Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 17,163	Welcome to the club....

10-29-2002, 02:30 PM	#160
Kameko Sister to the TMNT Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Los Angeles, California, USA Posts: 2,756