"Supernatural" Discussion

[TheCanadiandrome]

Originally Posted by FearlessLeader

It's official the show has been picked up for a 7th season!!!



Taken from:
http://www.spoilertv.com/2011/04/cw-...ssip-girl.html

this is good news

[Turo602]

Holy sh*t!!! Watch out! JEFFERSON STAR SHIPS!

[FearlessLeader]

Originally Posted by Turo602

Holy sh*t!!! Watch out! JEFFERSON STAR SHIPS!

Best reply ever!

Did everyone see how long Jefferson Starships was trending on Twitter?? And it was funny because fans of the band didn't know what was going on. Oh Dean!

[gobo]

[TheCanadiandrome]

Originally Posted by Turo602

Holy sh*t!!! Watch out! JEFFERSON STAR SHIPS!

lol! that was good

[gobo]

[TheCanadiandrome]

got my dvr set to record!

[Machias Banshee]

Supernatural. Two Hour Finale. Discuss NOW!!!

Spoiler:

Holy crap, the amount of stuff happening here... Ben and Lisa, Sam's mind wall...Castiel is trying to take over as GOD now?! I KNEW this whole soul hoarding was gonna end badly...

[FearlessLeader]

Spoiler:

I seriously cannot compute everything I just watched!

[gobo]

“Let It Bleed”

Spoiler:

Hate to see Lisa & Ben discarded like that, but at least they aren't dead. That improves their chances of being reinstated in the game. I really look forward to the ep(s) when Dean's luck runs out and his extremist ideas quit happening to be the right course of action. It's wearing rather thin. When Lovecraft's maid's son gave Bobby that photo at the end, getting Bobby all wide-eyed, I thought for sure it was going to be Eve. Boy, was I ever way off.

“The Man Who Knew Too Much”

Spoiler:

I loved seeing Joe Lupo from Syfy's awesomest original series, Eureka, as the barmaid, Robin. Loved the unspoken correlation between the three Sams and the ideals of mind, body & soul. Guess which one was which. ^_^ So, now Cas is a heavenly dictator. So very sad losing him to 'the dark side'... However, I'm confident that he will be brought back from the dark side eventually (though, hopefully, not Vader-style). It's just a matter of time. I wouldn't mind and would be kinda relieved if a certain antichrist named Jesse is enlisted to knock him down a few thousand notches. Actually, I'm thinking this would make a good explanation of god's character change between the old & new testaments. He had a similar ego-problem that was rectified by impregnating one of his own creations, thus giving him the human perspective.

Other, Random Musings

Spoiler:

While I don't think it's been touched on at all, we do know that reapers are charged with collecting the souls of decesed humans. Who do you think is responsible for the souls of monsters though? For that matter, why do you suppose Crowley didn't interrogate any reapers?

Also, since Ellie was all about dragon-killing, do you think it's safe to say that only dragons were able to open purgatory?

The end of this season, like the ep where Dean is Death, makes me think they're trying to circle back to the futility of what the hunters try to accomplish by saying they just further complicate things for the forces of nature. So, the end of the story will still be a violent end to humanity, just how much malicious intent is involved is the question.

[Krutch]

This show should have ended last year

Spoiler:

I love the show but this is what happens when the show goes past its shelf life. They always need to push things further and more extreme. Sometimes I think they go too far with pushing some characters.

Like Sam for example. Before this season, what was the worst thing he'd done? I'd probably say its team up with Ruby and kidnap that girl with the demon inside her to drink her blood. That was really pushing it then. Now? He's shooting hostages with no remorse. Soul or no soul, its still Sam.

Same with Castiel. Before this season, what was the worst thing he'd done? Probably betray the red-haired angel and sent her back to Heaven. He also kind of betrayed Dean a few times and sided with the angels, but thats a little understandable. Now he's teaming up with a Demon, straight up spying on the Winchesters, and claiming to be the new God? (After admitting to Dean in the season 5 finale that God was still alive considering how everything worked out).

I love the show, I really do... but I really wish they pulled the plug last year. It's gone too far for my tastes, personally.

[TheCanadiandrome]

Originally Posted by Krutch

This show should have ended last year
I love the show, I really do... but I really wish they pulled the plug last year. It's gone too far for my tastes, personally.

well i'm thinking next season will be the last

[Turo602]

How did you guys already watch it?

What the hell! This doesn't air until Sunday for me.

[TheCanadiandrome]

Originally Posted by Turo602

How did you guys already watch it?

What the hell! This doesn't air until Sunday for me.

i just watched it last night myself. had it dvr'd from Friday

[Mandi-chan]

While I enjoyed 6.21 ("Let It Bleed"), and esp. loved the Dean/Cas scenes in that episode, I pretty much hated 6.22 ("The Man Who Knew Too Much")

Spoiler:

Man oh man, was 6.22 a huge messy letdown!

First off, I HATED how OOC they made Cas before the twist at the end.

HATED IT!

How am I supposed to believe that he made the leap of remaining (from Season 4-Season 6, ep 6.21) the torn, fiercely protective/loyal, remorseful, depressed soldier who threatened Crowley to NOT harm the Winchesters (and was then furious when the demon went after the people they cared about instead)...to suddenly changing his mind a few hours later-with him randomly deciding to flip the switch in Sam's head, just to keep Dean busy while he opened up Purgatory?!

Sure, he said he would save Sam after the whole mess was over-and he sounded sincere about that and confident that he could do it (with the extra Purgatory juice probably)...but after proving time and again that he cares about Sam too, and threatening others who were planning on harming the boys...how on earth did the writers expect me to believe that he would pull a 180 in the span of a few measly hours for no reason at all?

The scene where he kills Balthazar bugged me too, but not as much because Balthazar has always come across as a wannabe Gabriel/Crowley who only really seemed to do things that would benefit him.

Yes, he showed some small concern for Cas when they had that final confrontation, but his self-preservation shined brighter than any sense of family the two may have had. He's just as bad at lying as Cas is...did he really think, after Cas made his stressed-out speech about being abandoned by his friends (who were now plotting to stop him from trying to save the world *again* and their sorry asses), that half-heartedly telling his brother that "you've always got me" was going to go over well? It was obvious he knew Cas suspected him, who else (besides Crowley maybe) would be the traitor that was plotting with the boys?

The reason why the scene bugged me so much, was because of Castiel's OOC behavior as he made the kill. He showed no remorse or regret when he killed Balthazar. Yet, in nearly every scene we've seen on this show (esp. this season) where he's had to face off and then kill his siblings, he always looked heartbroken to have to do it-never seeming thrilled about being put in that position in the first place.

I think the writer's were trying, in these two scenes, to show that Castiel had reached his breaking point and was being really desperate-with his goal being so close within his reach, and having so much go wrong (with his personal life) all at once...But they did a poor job of it if you ask me.

We should have seen his breaking point, we should have seen the thing that made him snap and do the horrible acts he committed prior to taking in the souls of Purgatory-it shouldn't have happened off screen! (Or, are we to assume that that last talk he had with Dean in 6.21 was said breaking point? If so, it should have been emphasized as it happened-so we weren't so blindsided by Castiel's OOC 180 decisions in the very next episode!

However, despite my fury over how random they had Cas act before he seemingly loses to Crowley/Raphael-I loved the super badass/creepy Cas that showed up at the end to save the day! The one who absorbed Purgatory (and didn't release the monsters like Bobby/Dean/Sam assumed it would). The eerie calm he displayed when he arrived, the ease in which he killed Raphael (I esp. loved that he used the archangel's favorite method of killing Cas from the last two finales), the threat that he had plans for Crowley...that was all great! His bragging that he was right (which, he partially was, while Dean was also kinda right-just not in the way he thought he would be) was pretty nice too, because we've never seen Castiel acting this way before.

I also loved that, despite what happened earlier in the episode, Dean still tried reaching out to Cas. Yeah, Cas was right when he said that Dean was clearly scared of him. But, I do honestly feel that Dean meant every word he said. He does view Castiel as a brother, and he doesn't want to lose him (for real).

The look on his face when Sam stabbed Cas in the back said it all, he looked upset (I thought Sam looked/sounded regretful of having to do what he did as well...but I do get why he did it. Their friend was talking crazy talk, is very dangerous right now if he's gone off the deep end, and he knew Dean wouldn't be able to bring himself to do it.)

Of course, the only good part about the disappointment-of-a-finale had to be ruined by the bad dialogue right after Cas pulled the blade out of his back and revealed that he wasn't an angel anymore. "Bow down and profess your love unto me, Your Lord, or I shall destroy you.".

Seriously writers...you just went there...?

And then, just to put salt on the wounds-any possibly seriousness in those lines was erased when they started doing the cheesy close up shots...and I was left staring at my screen in angry shock.

The show just took my favorite character, and made him Season 7's bad guy...

I just hope Dean remembers his asshole attitude to Cas all season (at least Cas had an excuse for his semi-distant/snippy behavior-he was fighting a war and trying to protect his friends from it), remembers that speech about family that he randomly announced to Bobby/Sam (neither of whom needed to hear the reassurance it offered), and remembers how much he himself stressed that Cas is family to him/a brother to him. Because, if Dean turns his back on Cas *again*, and spends the season trying to find a way to kill his best friend...then the show really will be dead to me.

Oh, and all that build up about Sam's wall and what would happen when it broke? That went nowhere, and in the end wasn't even worth the worry that all the characters made it out to be. All Sammy needed was confidence in himself and whammo! problem solved, and now he's just got a little on/off headache. (Unless we're just supposed to assume that little plot-hole will be fixed in Season 7...don't know how they're going to have Dean deal with TWO insane brothers...)

Sorry for the rant, but the final episode really got on my nerves. Aside from the final few minutes and the cliffhanger it gave us, it was an awful finale.

The whole season was pretty awful though. The first half was very boring, the whole season is full of holes and inconsistencies, and the writers dropped plotlines all over the place, and then they went and reused storylines from previous seasons (although, I can forgive them for that-because I loved the development Cas got this season from it...until 6.22 anyway.)

It had its gems, but it doesn't hold a candle anywhere close to Seasons 1-5 IMO. I just hope the writers and the new showrunner clean up their act, and do a better job with Season 7!

[gobo]

Kripke penned the finale, you know. However, you inspired a thought that would explain

Spoiler:

Cas's 180. Perhaps Sam's time in hell provided damning evidence against Cas, and that's why Sam was so ready to end Cas's existence and Cas wanted to sever ties with Dean before he got wind of it.

[TheCanadiandrome]

can't wait to see how next season goes

[gobo]

SDCC interview:


Season 7 premiere:

[Machias Banshee]

AHH!! Cannot Wait!! I am SO eager to see what happens with Castiel...

[Volvagia]

Oh god I can't wait for the new season to start, hope someone beats some sense into Cas.