The Sony Thread - Page 9

Peanut · 02-01-2007, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ecto Jedi

What's pathetic, my dear friends, is people not being able to accept opinions that differ from their own. No offense intended, of course.

No, man. That's just a load of fanboy bullsh*t. The group of games he goes on to list for the PS3 is pathetic. I'd like to know what all these huge exclusive games are? He lists the 360 as the one with two games, Gears and Halo 3, but it's pretty f*cking fair to say that the PS3 only has two, Final Fantasy and Metal Gear, neither of which are even first-party titles, and may not even be exclusive. He neglects to mention stuff exclusive titles like Mass Effect, Crackdown, Too Human and Halo Wars, yet mentions sh*t like Killzone as a plus for the PS3? Last time I checked, Killzone was mediocre and given a universal 'meh'. Since when does one fake trailer equal to a best selling game?

What's really funny is that he bashes Nintendo for not trying new things? WTF!?! What the hell is Sony pulling out? Every game he listed for the PS3 is a sequel! There's a difference between smart opinions and fanboy bullsh*t. This article is the latter.

*Ecto Jedi* · 02-01-2007, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Peanut

What's really funny is that he bashes Nintendo for not trying new things? WTF!?! What the hell is Sony pulling out? Every game he listed for the PS3 is a sequel! There's a difference between smart opinions and fanboy bullsh*t. This article is the latter.

All a matter of personal opinion, my dear man. Opinions -- they're great, aren't they?

Peanut · 02-01-2007, 11:13 PM

But that's what I'm getting at. That isn't an opinion. It's just nonsense. You can't say Nintendo is just doing the same old thing. You can't, because it's just not true. You can't call out one company for doing one thing, then praise another for doing that exact same thing! That's fanboy bias, and it doesn't belong on a professional gaming website. No wonder no one reads Gamepro.

~~LogicDonny~~ · 02-02-2007, 12:52 AM

well i heard that sony has always had success for the last 2 generation they will win again.

nintendo will have the power for the first year until the bigs hits comes out on the ps3 then the tabels will turn.

About castlevania, it's about time.. I already have sotn for the ps1 but rondo of blood 2d and updated with sotn in 1 umd is awesome!

*Mr. Snackpants* · 02-02-2007, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by LogicDonny

well i heard that sony has always had success for the last 2 generation they will win again.

nintendo will have the power for the first year until the bigs hits comes out on the ps3 then the tabels will turn.

About castlevania, it's about time.. I already have sotn for the ps1 but rondo of blood 2d and updated with sotn in 1 umd is awesome!

And these "Big Hits" are.......?

~~LogicDonny~~ · 02-02-2007, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Snackpants

And these "Big Hits" are.......?

Well take the final fantasies, metal gear solid 4, MotorStorm, Heavenly Sword, Resident evil 5, Devil may cry 4.

well these are just a bunch.

u may not think they are big hits but I believe they will do good.

Ra · 02-02-2007, 05:54 AM

You are pretty much right Donny. The games will be hits, but because they are pretty much over rated by the general public. Final Fantasy is usually a good seller, no matter what happens. (You can practically hear some girls from across town screaming "OMG! CLOUD! SQUALL! EEEEEEE!!!!11!1" -_-; ) The same goes with everything else with a number after the title. They have high expectations. After all, these are sequels to highly successful games. I mean, they didn't just make Kingdom Hearts II for the hell of it. They did it because the first game was a huge hit.

Anyway, I'm not one to judge. We'll just have to wait and see how the sales do

**Barkworm** · 02-02-2007, 06:04 AM

A potential system seller we tend to forget is Gran Turismo. Sure, none of us cares about it but it is an EXTREMELY successful franchise (as in GTA/Halo successful). Anyway, there's no way PS3 will win this gen. I even dare say none of the three consoles will repeat the first two Playstations success, this gen will be more balanced.

~~LogicDonny~~ · 02-02-2007, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Barkworm

A potential system seller we tend to forget is Gran Turismo. Sure, none of us cares about it but it is an EXTREMELY successful franchise (as in GTA/Halo successful). Anyway, there's no way PS3 will win this gen. I even dare say none of the three consoles will repeat the first two Playstations success, this gen will be more balanced.

Lol ya that one too and me and other people been expecting Gt4 mobile on the psp..

Peanut · 02-02-2007, 12:51 PM

People need to realize there is one huge reason the PS2 mopped up last-gen. It was out, unopposed, when there was nothing else on the market. At all. There was nothing. The N64 was dead, Playstation was getting nothing but sports games, and the Dreamcast was a disaster. It was the only thing to own, that's what lead to so many of those fantastic games. How many of the truly terrific PS2 games were made by Sony? And I'm not even talking in terms of sales.

4 of the top 5 selling PS2 games were third-party. Out of the top 20, how many were actual Sony games? TWO! Two games out of twenty. The rest of those games are all third-party and most, if not all of those games will/have become multi-platform affairs. The actual amazing stuff sold very little on the PS2. God of War and Shadow of the Colossus sold just over a million copies, and Okami hasn't even gotten half that far.

And those hits you listed, LogiclessDonny? Who's to say if Motorstorm and Heavenly Sword will be huge success stories? You can never count on a new IP. Then you also mention a multi-platform game and a potential one in DMC4. And might I add that after selling 4 million copies in the first go, the rest of the DMC series hasn't even broken a million copies. Hardly what I call a system seller.

GTA and Madden MADE the PS2. They were so popular there because the PS2 went without competition in the market for so long. And no one say the Xbox was fair competition, because it was a new console from a company who's video game history is based entirely on a flight simulator, while Sony and the Playstation had brand recognition.

Bottom line, whoever has the biggest installed base by this holiday season will walk away with this generation. Sony has to step up and put out some truly worthwhile EXCLUSIVE content or the PS3 is going to stumble for the next 6 years. Their price point is a barrier to entry for all those people who picked up a relatively cheap PS2, and all those top-selling games WILL BE on the Xbox360, day and date with the PS3 version, with superior online play to boot. Your Madden and GTA fiends aren't going to drop that kind of cash on a PS3 when they can get the exact same thing for cheaper on a 360. Period.

*Mr. Snackpants* · 02-02-2007, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by LogicDonny

Well take the final fantasies, metal gear solid 4, MotorStorm, Heavenly Sword, Resident evil 5, Devil may cry 4.

well these are just a bunch.

u may not think they are big hits but I believe they will do good.

Then the PS3 is in some trouble. While those are good games some of those may be on the 360, as Peanut has already stated.

*Spitfire* · 02-02-2007, 02:58 PM

The DMC series makes me cry. 2 and 3 can never surpass the greatness of 1. 1 needs to be re-done though. The controls get annoying at times. Honestly 4 million is nuts and it deserves it 2 and 3 just don't. 2 sucks and 3 has the combat but everything else sucks. "WOOOOO IM RIDING A MISSLE" No Dante...no.

Anyways E 5 is multiplatform so that doesn't count. And you all failed to mention Silent Hill 5 for 360 and the maker of ZOE 3 said when he's done with MGS 4 he wanted to make ZOE 3 for PS3 and 360.

Point being that article is full of it. Like Peanut said opinions are fine when their not formulated with false info and further more when their not being told in a gaming magazine that many people read and believe.

~~LogicDonny~~ · 02-03-2007, 02:01 PM

If i had a camera, I could show u doom on psp! HAHAHA my friend showed me anotehr fantastic homebrew game.

u of course need to own the copies of doom on pc in order to make it work..

*Mr. Snackpants* · 02-03-2007, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by LogicDonny

If i had a camera, I could show u doom on psp! HAHAHA my friend showed me anotehr fantastic homebrew game.

u of course need to own the copies of doom on pc in order to make it work..

Why do you need a copy of the PC game? My friends brother had Doom on his PSP without it. Something to do with updated firmware?

That's basically all I used my PSP for. I just had an emulator with bunch of roms on it. It was basically a portable NES/SNES.

~~LogicDonny~~ · 02-04-2007, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Snackpants

Why do you need a copy of the PC game? My friends brother had Doom on his PSP without it. Something to do with updated firmware?

That's basically all I used my PSP for. I just had an emulator with bunch of roms on it. It was basically a portable NES/SNES.

uh you need the wads file from the actual game in order to play it. The devlopers didn't provide a wad of it due to the fact the game still sells.

I heard hexen and heretic can be played on the psp but I am not too sure baout that. I have to ask my friend..

So you have a homebrew psp, Mr. Snackpants?

*Mr. Snackpants* · 02-04-2007, 02:26 PM

I had a PSP when it first came out and kept it for about 6 months. I couldnt find a decent game and my PSP essentially became a portable NES/SNES, but it wasnt worth $250 so I sold it for an iPod. So no, I don't.

*Ecto Jedi* · 02-04-2007, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Snackpants

I had a PSP when it first came out and kept it for about 6 months. I couldnt find a decent game and my PSP essentially became a portable NES/SNES, but it wasnt worth $250 so I sold it for an iPod. So no, I don't.

I'm feeling some pent-up aggression, Mr. Snackpants. Would you like to talk about it?

*Mr. Snackpants* · 02-04-2007, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ecto Jedi

I'm feeling some pent-up aggression, Mr. Snackpants. Would you like to talk about it?

Ummm, he asked me if I had a PSP. What the hell does it matter to you?

And I'm pretty sure my aggression towards the PSP was just openly expressed, so....nothing "pent-up" here.

*Ecto Jedi* · 02-04-2007, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Snackpants

Ummm, he asked me if I had a PSP. What the hell does it matter to you?

'Tis a light-hearted jab, my friend. Down boy...

*Mr. Snackpants* · 02-04-2007, 05:06 PM

Oh alright, your rolly eyes came off the wrong way I guess.

02-02-2007, 05:54 AM	#167
Ra It's my desire? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In your pants. Posts: 4,441	You are pretty much right Donny. The games will be hits, but because they are pretty much over rated by the general public. Final Fantasy is usually a good seller, no matter what happens. (You can practically hear some girls from across town screaming "OMG! CLOUD! SQUALL! EEEEEEE!!!!11!1" -_-; ) The same goes with everything else with a number after the title. They have high expectations. After all, these are sequels to highly successful games. I mean, they didn't just make Kingdom Hearts II for the hell of it. They did it because the first game was a huge hit. Anyway, I'm not one to judge. We'll just have to wait and see how the sales do __________________ "So. The whole lot of you against little old me? How retarded."

02-02-2007, 06:04 AM	#168
Barkworm Draconian leftist ruler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 6,761	A potential system seller we tend to forget is Gran Turismo. Sure, none of us cares about it but it is an EXTREMELY successful franchise (as in GTA/Halo successful). Anyway, there's no way PS3 will win this gen. I even dare say none of the three consoles will repeat the first two Playstations success, this gen will be more balanced. __________________ Make ****, not kill!

02-02-2007, 02:58 PM	#172
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	The DMC series makes me cry. 2 and 3 can never surpass the greatness of 1. 1 needs to be re-done though. The controls get annoying at times. Honestly 4 million is nuts and it deserves it 2 and 3 just don't. 2 sucks and 3 has the combat but everything else sucks. "WOOOOO IM RIDING A MISSLE" No Dante...no. Anyways E 5 is multiplatform so that doesn't count. And you all failed to mention Silent Hill 5 for 360 and the maker of ZOE 3 said when he's done with MGS 4 he wanted to make ZOE 3 for PS3 and 360. Point being that article is full of it. Like Peanut said opinions are fine when their not formulated with false info and further more when their not being told in a gaming magazine that many people read and believe. __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

02-01-2007, 11:13 PM	#163
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	But that's what I'm getting at. That isn't an opinion. It's just nonsense. You can't say Nintendo is just doing the same old thing. You can't, because it's just not true. You can't call out one company for doing one thing, then praise another for doing that exact same thing! That's fanboy bias, and it doesn't belong on a professional gaming website. No wonder no one reads Gamepro.

02-02-2007, 12:52 AM	#164
~~LogicDonny~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,643	well i heard that sony has always had success for the last 2 generation they will win again. nintendo will have the power for the first year until the bigs hits comes out on the ps3 then the tabels will turn. About castlevania, it's about time.. I already have sotn for the ps1 but rondo of blood 2d and updated with sotn in 1 umd is awesome!

02-02-2007, 12:51 PM	#170
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	People need to realize there is one huge reason the PS2 mopped up last-gen. It was out, unopposed, when there was nothing else on the market. At all. There was nothing. The N64 was dead, Playstation was getting nothing but sports games, and the Dreamcast was a disaster. It was the only thing to own, that's what lead to so many of those fantastic games. How many of the truly terrific PS2 games were made by Sony? And I'm not even talking in terms of sales. 4 of the top 5 selling PS2 games were third-party. Out of the top 20, how many were actual Sony games? TWO! Two games out of twenty. The rest of those games are all third-party and most, if not all of those games will/have become multi-platform affairs. The actual amazing stuff sold very little on the PS2. God of War and Shadow of the Colossus sold just over a million copies, and Okami hasn't even gotten half that far. And those hits you listed, LogiclessDonny? Who's to say if Motorstorm and Heavenly Sword will be huge success stories? You can never count on a new IP. Then you also mention a multi-platform game and a potential one in DMC4. And might I add that after selling 4 million copies in the first go, the rest of the DMC series hasn't even broken a million copies. Hardly what I call a system seller. GTA and Madden MADE the PS2. They were so popular there because the PS2 went without competition in the market for so long. And no one say the Xbox was fair competition, because it was a new console from a company who's video game history is based entirely on a flight simulator, while Sony and the Playstation had brand recognition. Bottom line, whoever has the biggest installed base by this holiday season will walk away with this generation. Sony has to step up and put out some truly worthwhile EXCLUSIVE content or the PS3 is going to stumble for the next 6 years. Their price point is a barrier to entry for all those people who picked up a relatively cheap PS2, and all those top-selling games WILL BE on the Xbox360, day and date with the PS3 version, with superior online play to boot. Your Madden and GTA fiends aren't going to drop that kind of cash on a PS3 when they can get the exact same thing for cheaper on a 360. Period.

02-03-2007, 02:01 PM	#173
~~LogicDonny~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,643	If i had a camera, I could show u doom on psp! HAHAHA my friend showed me anotehr fantastic homebrew game. u of course need to own the copies of doom on pc in order to make it work..

02-04-2007, 02:26 PM	#176
Mr. Snackpants Keep cool my babies! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mount Pleasant Posts: 2,239	I had a PSP when it first came out and kept it for about 6 months. I couldnt find a decent game and my PSP essentially became a portable NES/SNES, but it wasnt worth $250 so I sold it for an iPod. So no, I don't.

02-04-2007, 05:06 PM	#180
Mr. Snackpants Keep cool my babies! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mount Pleasant Posts: 2,239	Oh alright, your rolly eyes came off the wrong way I guess.