"Supernatural" Discussion

[TheCanadiandrome]

Originally Posted by Machias Banshee

AHH!! Cannot Wait!! I am SO eager to see what happens with Castiel...

yeah me to!

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[Machias Banshee]

I Loved this season's opening!

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I'm surprised they kept the whole Smiting Castiel God was wrapped up in one episode. I thought this would be a long drawn out battle, maybe a god vs faux god smackdown. I think it would have been neat if the old non-christian gods from the previous seasons had shown up. Castiel was very Old testament Fire and Brimstone in what he was doing - But seeing him deteriorate so quickly was heartbreaking...

I cannot wait to see how they portray Leviathan...

[gobo]

Originally Posted by Machias Banshee

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seeing him deteriorate so quickly was heartbreaking...

Stupidly enough, this was a fact that hadn't dawned on me until a month ago.

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Since Lucifer's power couldn't be contained by any vessel other than Sam, it's reasonable that Jimmy wasn't expected to contain MEGA-Cas, and would similarly start falling apart.

I just wonder how The Leviathan were able to stay so sentient in soul-form when all the other Purgatorians weren't. In that case, it seems Cas only needed to get rid of those creeps and find a stronger vessel. Only time will tell if that would have been better than what actually went down.

[TheCanadiandrome]

Next weeks episode should be good. I'm looking forward to this season

[Turo602]

Originally Posted by TMNT_Canadian

Next weeks episode should be good. I'm looking forward to this season

Same here dude. The first episode was awesome.

[TheCanadiandrome]

I just hope nothing happens to Cas

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Don't blame me. The producers were late getting them posted.

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Don't look at me. The producers were late with it again.

[Volvagia]

I'm loving this season so far, way better start than the last one.

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I'll edit in the rest as it becomes available.

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[FearlessLeader]

Last episode:

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Dean singing while missing the Impala was one of the funniest things they have done on this show so far!

Fantastic episode!!

[TheCanadiandrome]

i've yet to watch last week's ep

[Volvagia]

The last episode was great except for the last scene.

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At least the Amy secret is finally out so they can deal with it but damn I hate when the brothers fight

[Mandi-chan]

I'm enjoying this season so far, although I do feel that the episodes after the two-part premier have been a little...underwhelming (story arc-wise) in comparison to how fast-paced and game changing 7.01/7.02 (deceptively) seemed to be.

The two-part premier made it look like things were going to be really different with the show, that the boys really would be isolated and have no allies whatsoever (with Cas being "dead" *I don't buy it for one second-because that was too lame/insulting to be the real send off for such a wonderful character*, and Bobby possibly being dead as well), and Misha's performance as the Levis made them look like they were going to be a blast to watch...but tease that things were going to be different was just that, a tease.

Bobby's not dead (thank god!) and he easily obtained a new home and copies of all his lore research, so losing Singer/Winchester Home Base wasn't really much of a blow to TFW (it's really just an emotional blow to poor Bobby, since he had a lot of memories there).

Aside from Misha's (sadly too-short) performance as the Levis, the new Big Bad has been proven to be rather dull. They're Uber Shapshifters that feel reminiscent of Hitosi Iwaaki's Parasytes...but lacking the impressive threat those aliens had posed, and the fun Misha's take on them had been promising us. They’re just kinda there, being incredibly boring and non-threatening while the writers sit back and expect us to be impressed. I’m hoping they up the ante a bit, and have the Levis live up to the horrors Death implied of them (something Castiel seemed honestly terrified of as he had tried to shoo Dean and Bobby away as he was being possessed again).

The brothers over-done and dull secrets/lies plot resurfaced again rather quickly, only this time it’s Dean who’s being deceptive (hypocritical as always, but he’s Dean Winchester so I guess that makes it okay…). Hopefully that overused plotline gets snuffed quickly so we can move forward with the story, even with the role reversal (well…not really, this is something Dean himself seems to do a lot now that I think about it) it’s tiresome and none of the fans seem to be too thrilled with its return.

Now that I’m done whining about my disappointments with the season so-far, I would like to remark on what I DO like about it:

1.) Bobby continuing his role as the boys “deus ex machine” (as some fans chose to see him), and even getting a little bit of his own storyline (which I hope they continue to do. I loved his side-storyline in Season 5!). Bobby Singer rocks, and I will never get tired of his screen time on the show (I want more of it!)

2.) Dean’s storyline (as long as they follow through, and don’t fall back on focusing on Sammy’s special problems…I’m honestly tired of that). I like how Dean’s falling apart this season, and it makes sense considering how much crap he’s gone through and how much he’s had to lose because of it (especially when he was given a taste of something much nicer due to his time with Lisa/Ben). It would be refreshing to see Dean continue his downward spiral, and have Sam (despite his understandable anger and frustration with Dean right now) be the one to help his brother through it for once. As Dean said in 7.02 “Come on, I’m the one with the broken leg (mind/heart), you’ve got to carry me!” The whole show has been about Dean taking care of his brother and “carrying” him through his hardships; it would be nice to see THAT role reversal for a change…which is what I’m hoping for from this season.

3.) Sam dealing with his Hell issues. I, for one, was thrilled when Sam admit to Dean that he was “over” his guilt for his role in the Apocalypse starting (and the things that lead up to that), that he felt he paid his dues for it when he was in Hell and isn’t going to let it eat him up (unlike Dean, who never stops stewing in his guilt-even if it’s not remotely his fault). I also love that he seems to be successfully dealing with his Hell memories, and is able to separate what’s real and what isn’t. I sincerely hope that this remains the case, that the writers stick to their guns on this decision, and that they don’t backtrack and have Sam lose his mind because of a betrayal of trust between him and Dean. Again, Dean’s long overdue to have his mental breakdown and get the support he desperately needs to survive it (Bobby and Cas have provided that for him in the past, but I don’t really feel Sam did-who Dean needs it from the most right now).

While I found 7.03 and 7.04 (to a much lesser extent, in this case I just felt it was kinda botched and thought a lot more could have been done with this particular ep) to be lacking/disappointing, I LOVED 7.05 and 7.06. So far, despite its redundancy with the Sam/Dean trust issues and how underwhelming the Levis are, I’m enjoying this season and feel it’s leaps and bounds better than the sloppy/inconsistent/often nonsensical mess that Season 6 was.

It’s still not quite on par w/Seasons 2-5, but so far it’s not a stinker either so that’s okay with me.

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Better than season 6 is all it needs to be. I'm already hating how they're handling the Amy thing. Seems pretty lame when they introduce a character and kill them off in the same season, but in the very same episode?? >_< Oh well... At least her death is important to the overall plot as opposed to the Campbell Clan's. But, so far, I've had a lot fewer complaints with this season than last.

[TheCanadiandrome]

I hope Cas comes back

[Mandi-chan]

Originally Posted by TMNT_Canadian

I hope Cas comes back

Same here, it's not the same without him (his scenes, even the OOC ones, where breathes of fresh air during Season 6). He's part of the Winchester/Singer clan, screw ups and all!

He deserves a redemption arc, just like Sam (and Dean...kinda) had, he deserves to earn forgiveness and be fully embraced into the family. He deserves to have the Winchesters go above and beyond to save him for once (I'm hoping, if his character returns, that the boys realize he's trapped in the Leviathan and do everything in their power to bring him back)!

Can I also add that he deserves a hug? Bobby, Sam, and Dean hug each other no problem!

Okay, I'm done now.