Official Episode Discussion: S2 #8 "The Good, The Bad, and Casey Jones" - Page 9

*CyberCubed* · 02-02-2014, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

I kinda like her, but I'm one of those people who isn't bothered by Darcy in Thor.

EDIT: I also hope we learn that Casey's sis is indeed this universes Shadow Jones.

I assume his sister would be Angel...

**Jester** · 02-03-2014, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I assume his sister would be Angel...

Why?

It'd be nice to finally see a universe outside for Mirage with Shadow. heck...as his kid sis it's perfect. She's called "Shadow" because she's always right behind Casey.

nimajneb · 02-03-2014, 01:58 AM

Loved the little Casey dialogue at the start.
loving this ep.

slingtheory · 02-03-2014, 02:04 AM

just finished watching the episode and its officially my favorite of the season so far. caseys vigilante debut did not disappoint. I was skeptical of a kid casey at first but now he's on his way to being my second favorite version of the character. he even looks badass in the theme song standing silently in the background. Even as a teen casey proved himself to be a capable fighter, almost too good at times but I guess that's what bravery and being (almost) fearless does for you. the fight scene with raph was very well done. I especially like how he seems to be a little more clever then usual here with all the gear he's made. the call backs and homages to past tmnt were awesome not only because they were unexpected but because it showed the obvious love the minds behind the show have for the characters and their history. overall the whole episode was really a well done updated version of rapheal # 1. also I'm very happy that they didn't waste anytime introducing casey to the rest of the guys. I was expecting them to stretch it out but glad to see they got it out of the way.
final thoughts
-loved seeing the whole team fight together for the first time.
-always great to see splinter show that he's a ninja master.
-the turtles brotherly interactions were great as always.
-thankfully they didn't bother with the love triangle at least for this episode
-this looks like the beginning of a beautiful bromance

thejlb · 02-03-2014, 02:32 AM

Casey was awesome.

Colonel Schrader · 02-03-2014, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Casey is a skilled fighter for a kid. Taking out street thugs, Foot robots and even Raph? I think he was a little too good a fighter, after all he's only like 16 or something right?

I think they made him 2 tough 2 fast.. That was my only problem with this episode. He held his own against raph who has been training his whole life..

*Allio* · 02-03-2014, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

How can anyone possibly hate Nick's Irma already given she's said one or two lines?

We have no clue what they'll do with her or if she'll become annoying or not.

I've seen people hate for less

*Powder* · 02-03-2014, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Colonel Schrader

I think they made him 2 tough 2 fast.. That was my only problem with this episode. He held his own against raph who has been training his whole life..

I completely agree with you on that point. That's all I was gonna say, but then I realized, you could kinda justify it. When Raph's angry like that, he's not at his best. Across the universes, this has been a constant. His anger clouds his judgement, slows him down, strips him of his focus, etc. Maybe we'll see him whip Casey's butt in a future episode (over taking issue with Donnie, perhaps?).

*Allio* · 02-03-2014, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I assume his sister would be Angel...

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Originally Posted by Jester

Why?

It'd be nice to finally see a universe outside for Mirage with Shadow. heck...as his kid sis it's perfect. She's called "Shadow" because she's always right behind Casey.

I've always seen Angel as the other universes' answer to "Shadow"

but why not let his sister be angel who would be attached to Casey in which case Casey nicknames "Shadow"

*Shark_Blade* · 02-03-2014, 04:14 AM

I just assume Casey's a natural fighter.

Though seeing his thinly shaped breadstick body being tossed and hammered savagely by Raph, I'm surprised he didn't break in two.

Not bad Jones.

*Zulithe* · 02-03-2014, 04:21 AM

Maybe derpril isn't a clone at all... it's a failed 'version' of her the Kraang made before they made April herself, a perfected version of... whatever it is they were working on.

That would be a little more horrific than a clone, at least IMO.

Desslok: I know you have had it for a while, but I never complimented you for your sig... I just love it so much, haha.

MiBs · 02-03-2014, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Colonel Schrader

I think they made him 2 tough 2 fast.. That was my only problem with this episode. He held his own against raph who has been training his whole life..

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Originally Posted by Powder

I completely agree with you on that point. That's all I was gonna say, but then I realized, you could kinda justify it. When Raph's angry like that, he's not at his best. Across the universes, this has been a constant. His anger clouds his judgement, slows him down, strips him of his focus, etc. Maybe we'll see him whip Casey's butt in a future episode (over taking issue with Donnie, perhaps?).

I agree with you, but I actually thought more about it during the subway chase/fight, he just seemed a bit to skilled. But the episode has far more on the plus side, though.

I don't know how much time has passed since "Target: April O'Neil", but I guess it makes sense if Casey has been training his fighting skills ever since, and first goes into vigilante-mode, when he feels ready.

*Candy Kappa* · 02-03-2014, 04:58 AM

Just because someone knows martial arts doesn't mean they can't lose a fight against a non-practitioner. There's been a lot of cocky karate Black Belts getting their asses whooped when deliberately looking for trouble on a Saturday night.

*Powder* · 02-03-2014, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Zulithe

Maybe derpril isn't a clone at all... it's a failed 'version' of her the Kraang made before they made April herself, a perfected version of... whatever it is they were working on.

Dude, that is an amazing theory. I bet you're right.

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Originally Posted by MiBs

I don't know how much time has passed since "Target: April O'Neil", but I guess it makes sense if Casey has been training his fighting skills ever since, and first goes into vigilante-mode, when he feels ready.

Well, on that note, Ciro said on Facebook that this aired 'out of order', so maybe there's a scene in a future episode intended to air prior to this one that shows him doing exactly that.

marcelangelo · 02-03-2014, 05:19 AM

just saw the episode and I was pretty amazed...I love this one!

..the homage to the first movie was great and watching it I immediatelly wondered if the animators would watch and rewatch that scene while working that one out.this show is animated for the most part in india, right?I think to remember that up to 20 or 30 per cent of an episode was animated in canada and the majority of the animated footage is done over in india...
but my mind immediatelly pointed out:aww they messed up the way raph is stopping his workout on the roof and touching the wall

hahaha..in the movie he goes one hand after another..you can sort of feel with the motion when watching the movie

but thats only nitpicking and doesn't impact at all how nice it was to see them palying off of that scene

all in all, I really liked how casey wound up with the turtles and how they fought along side...I only asked myself why it was important for them to catch that scanning footbot before he GIVES AWAY their location when he surely must have had the possibillity of emailing that info away or something along that line

...I mean they are ROBOTS...FIGHT ROBOTS even.hahaha..but of course it could be that they don't have coverage down in the sewers...
love that the toitles are back!
oh and I agree..raphs anger makes him a lesser skilled fighter.you could see that in the comics, in 2k3 and here

*Shark_Blade* · 02-03-2014, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by marcelangelo

raphs anger makes him a lesser skilled fighter.

But didn't he say "my anger makes me a better fighter!" in Turtle Temper? Guess he's just deluding himself.

*blindturtle02* · 02-03-2014, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Jester

Why?

It'd be nice to finally see a universe outside for Mirage with Shadow. heck...as his kid sis it's perfect. She's called "Shadow" because she's always right behind Casey.

Jester, lovin that notion. Can't just go out and read the comics, and I've always been interested in the Shadow character, so hoping you're on to something there. My first thought was that she could be Angel but seems like your Muse got more sac time than mine did the other night. Sucks that they aired this ep out of order. Next week's ep is listed as 208, at least on Wikipedia. Someone pointed out that the Kirtzmen sceen shown last year had some sort of caption during the preview identifying it as ep 8 of s2. Hoping we get to see a bit of Jones training in the following episode since I'm guessing the guys haven't met him yet in that one.

MiBs · 02-03-2014, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

But didn't he say "my anger makes me a better fighter!" in Turtle Temper? Guess he's just deluding himself.

Yes. Isn't it basically the lesson Splinter is trying to teach him

marcelangelo · 02-03-2014, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

But didn't he say "my anger makes me a better fighter!" in Turtle Temper? Guess he's just deluding himself.

haha, NICE catch, compadre!

I didn't really think of that line even though that is one of my favourite episodes from the entire show,)....
I guess he IS...ah, kids..they forget so soon...I guess now I KNOW why splinter's fur is often painted grey...he must be worrying about his forgetting sons all the time

**Jester** · 02-03-2014, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Allio

I've always seen Angel as the other universes' answer to "Shadow"

but why not let his sister be angel who would be attached to Casey in which case Casey nicknames "Shadow"

The thought crossed my mind of a merger as well.

View Poll Results: So, was this worth the wait?
Tributes Galore! Casey seeing Raph on the Rooftop, Casey's mirage sketch...	58	53.21%
Master Splinter and kids finally battled together!	17	15.60%
Purple-haired Irma's looks great!	9	8.26%
Anybody ask April what this week's powerball numbers are yet?	6	5.50%
Great, now we've got TWO Raphaels...	19	17.43%
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02-03-2014, 01:58 AM	#163
nimajneb Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: South Croydon Posts: 547	Loved the little Casey dialogue at the start. loving this ep. __________________ [SIZE="2"] MICHELANGELO I hear his bike turns into a plane, or like a jet pack. Hey Don, you're so smart, why don't we have jet packs? DONATELLO Yeah, that's good, Mikey. I don't even trust you with a driver's license.[/

02-03-2014, 04:21 AM	#171
Zulithe Ninjutsu Master Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 6,418	Maybe derpril isn't a clone at all... it's a failed 'version' of her the Kraang made before they made April herself, a perfected version of... whatever it is they were working on. That would be a little more horrific than a clone, at least IMO. Desslok: I know you have had it for a while, but I never complimented you for your sig... I just love it so much, haha. Last edited by Zulithe; 02-03-2014 at 04:36 AM.

02-03-2014, 04:58 AM	#173
Candy Kappa The Agenda of Existing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vikingland Posts: 14,596	Just because someone knows martial arts doesn't mean they can't lose a fight against a non-practitioner. There's been a lot of cocky karate Black Belts getting their asses whooped when deliberately looking for trouble on a Saturday night. __________________ devianArt Instagram Youtube Tumblr Art Blog Patreon

02-03-2014, 05:19 AM	#175
marcelangelo Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,471	just saw the episode and I was pretty amazed...I love this one!..the homage to the first movie was great and watching it I immediatelly wondered if the animators would watch and rewatch that scene while working that one out.this show is animated for the most part in india, right?I think to remember that up to 20 or 30 per cent of an episode was animated in canada and the majority of the animated footage is done over in india... but my mind immediatelly pointed out:aww they messed up the way raph is stopping his workout on the roof and touching the wallhahaha..in the movie he goes one hand after another..you can sort of feel with the motion when watching the moviebut thats only nitpicking and doesn't impact at all how nice it was to see them palying off of that scene all in all, I really liked how casey wound up with the turtles and how they fought along side...I only asked myself why it was important for them to catch that scanning footbot before he GIVES AWAY their location when he surely must have had the possibillity of emailing that info away or something along that line...I mean they are ROBOTS...FIGHT ROBOTS even.hahaha..but of course it could be that they don't have coverage down in the sewers... love that the toitles are back! oh and I agree..raphs anger makes him a lesser skilled fighter.you could see that in the comics, in 2k3 and here

02-03-2014, 02:04 AM	#164
slingtheory Stone Warrior Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Texas Posts: 580	just finished watching the episode and its officially my favorite of the season so far. caseys vigilante debut did not disappoint. I was skeptical of a kid casey at first but now he's on his way to being my second favorite version of the character. he even looks badass in the theme song standing silently in the background. Even as a teen casey proved himself to be a capable fighter, almost too good at times but I guess that's what bravery and being (almost) fearless does for you. the fight scene with raph was very well done. I especially like how he seems to be a little more clever then usual here with all the gear he's made. the call backs and homages to past tmnt were awesome not only because they were unexpected but because it showed the obvious love the minds behind the show have for the characters and their history. overall the whole episode was really a well done updated version of rapheal # 1. also I'm very happy that they didn't waste anytime introducing casey to the rest of the guys. I was expecting them to stretch it out but glad to see they got it out of the way. final thoughts -loved seeing the whole team fight together for the first time. -always great to see splinter show that he's a ninja master. -the turtles brotherly interactions were great as always. -thankfully they didn't bother with the love triangle at least for this episode -this looks like the beginning of a beautiful bromance

02-03-2014, 02:32 AM	#165
thejlb Random Punk Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Hermitage, TN Posts: 20	Casey was awesome.

02-03-2014, 04:14 AM	#170
Shark_Blade Emperor Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,909	I just assume Casey's a natural fighter. Though seeing his thinly shaped breadstick body being tossed and hammered savagely by Raph, I'm surprised he didn't break in two. Not bad Jones.