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[Metalwolf]

Originally Posted by ssjup81

Negative: I know some are looking forward to them....but I'm not. Bebop and Rocksteady. I dunno, I just can't get excited about them, and since they are OT specific, this does feel like OT pandering, but it'll be interesting to see how they'll become mutated and if they'll actually work for Shredder or on their on or with Karai, etc.

I think a lot of it was fans pushing to have them come in, Ciro and Co. admitting as much.

I think for me I hope they aren't added just to add more bad guys to Shredder's roster but to add some drama. Without some conflict the bad guys come off as a bit boring to me as they seem to get along a little bit too well. Dogpound and Xever bickering was fun, but they got rid of that as soon as Dogpound got turned into Rahzar. Xever was spreading rumors about some conflict between Tigerclaw and Rahzar, but as soon as those two team up, they get over their differences quickly just through talking and then liking each other.

So I'm hoping B+R are there to break up that dynamic. I want them to work in grudges and up-end that happy little family. They take Xever under their wing and feed his resentment (since he seems to show some already by spreading rumors) as they themselves are resentful to Shredder for ruining their lives. Sterenko buys Xever's loyalty by saying he has money and his men are already working on a cure, and also that he will have his connections in Brazil bribe the corrupt authorities there to exonerate him.

That's how I'd do it, to keep them from being straight up OT clones and making them something they weren't in the OT, a means to eventually destabilize the Foot from the inside. Otherwise the Foot have no internal drama anymore, and will just get along fine and raise havoc on the city once the Turtles are away.

[Papenbrook]

Positives:
- I like that they are giving Mikey a more serious role.
- I like where the tone is going within the show so far.

Negatives:

- There are too many OT elements.
- They aren't using Mutagen Man like they said they would.

[Shadow Canuck]

First post.

Positive:
The Karai/Miwa twist. This is the one story element that really makes the series stand out to me.
Call backs and Easter eggs galore, although having to explain to my nephew why I'm chuckling isn't always easy.

Negative:
Foot robots, I've always hated the idea of them.
Booyakasha, everytime I hear it is like a mix between standing next to a chalkboard with nails grinding down it, and a screaming child. I'm no cowabunga purist I just hate that word and have since I saw commercials for D Ali G Show.

[Warhorse]

Pros: I'm more excited for this than I am for the new movie coming out!


Neg: I don't want to say good -bye to the Shellraiser!

[RandomtasticFantasy]

Pros:

-The entire Yoshi/Saki storyline. At first, I thought it would be the same ole, simple story but it's interesting to see each layer getting peeled back. I didn't think I was originally going to like the whole Miwa/Kairi twist being added, but it ended up actually putting interesting twists on the affair.

-Mikey. He started out just being the goof and comedy relief, not generally being serious and having plots that were ignorable, breather episodes. The latter still persists, but he's been showing layers of intelligence and observance to situations in the main plots, and I enjoy that. Along with puppy smile.

Cons:
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Spoiler:

Kairi transforming...sorta. I don't mind so much that she did, and into a snake, which is cool and I'm sure that will be utilized in awesome ways for Kairi, but I liked having another badass without the mutation. Plus, it keeps her from the team longer (given how it was done and how it effected her), which sucks.

-The Krang storyline thus far. It feels stagnate and it's not as interesting to me as the Foot Clan story.

[ObiWanFan4life]

Pros: It seems as if the show is starting to gradually mature along with the characters.

Cons: The Villians (outside of Tiger Claw and Karai) are still arguably the weakest link of the show. Especially The Shredder, who though a bit more fleshed out seems to be nothing but a deranged savage.

Positive: Some of the humor can be witty when properly executed.

Negative: The show's tone is uneven sometimes.

[THGhost]

N: All those one-off mutants seems to have been completely forgotten about.
P: I love the show's animation, which is saying a lot because I usually hate CGI cartoons.

[ObiWanFan4life]

Cons: The second season is so eerily similar to the first, that the show has become a little formulaic.

Pros: Come the Season 2 finale, the show should gain a little more steam.

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

Pros: The voice Acting is good

Cons: Mutating Karai was a stupid decision

[ssjup81]

Originally Posted by Whatswiththeheadbands?

Pros: The voice Acting is good

Cons: Mutating Karai was a stupid decision

Why do you feel that it was a stupid decision? I personally wouldn't have wanted her mutated myself, but it was an interesting "karma" thing, given how she was regarding mutants, referring to them as freaks all the time, etc.

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

Originally Posted by ssjup81

Why do you feel that it was a stupid decision? I personally wouldn't have wanted her mutated myself, but it was an interesting "karma" thing, given how she was regarding mutants, referring to them as freaks all the time, etc.

I just feel that it's an excuse to get a Mutated Karai toy, and not to fit the Plot in anyway.

[ssjup81]

Originally Posted by Whatswiththeheadbands?

I just feel that it's an excuse to get a Mutated Karai toy, and not to fit the Plot in anyway.

I see what you mean. I do wonder what plot point this will form or fit into aside from intensifying the whole Splinter vs Shredder thing. One thing is for sure though, I do believe that it helps to show us that Shredder just isn't right in the head. Other than that, since her mutation was strangely done, it may play a point further down the road as far as maybe retromutagen is concerned.

[HayaMika]

N: Donnie's obsessive crush on April sometimes makes him seem really creepy...
P: When he's not focused on April, though, he is as sweet as can be and can be super awesome and adorable.

[TMNTmousers]

Positive- Lots of great mutants like Tiger Claw, Fishface, Slash
Negative-No where near enough mutants, by season 10 I hope there is 150

[Warhorse]

Pros-I like how I can actually see what's going on in the fights, and how they don't hold back Leo's and Raph's aggressiveness.

Cons-Waaaayyyyyy too much Donny or Leo centric story arcs.

[Konchadunga]

Originally Posted by TMNTmousers

Positive- Lots of great mutants like Tiger Claw, Fishface, Slash
Negative-No where near enough mutants, by season 10 I hope there is 150

Good God; I hope that Nieli doesn't hear that. This show has way too many MOTWs already, and the more of those it has, the less development for other characters.

[turtle1237]

Pros. Lots of pros imo.

Love the Shredder Splinter connection and storyline,
Like the Turtles for the most part.
Cant wait for Bebop and Rocksteady.
Loved Leatherhead, he rock.
The new Rat King is pretty scary in his own right.
Perhaps the best version of Shredder imo of the last 3 series.
Loved the comedy and action,
Space Heros rock lol.
Krang story lines are either hit or miss, the first season ender showdown was amazing.
Like Stockman, both as a human and fly.
Tiger Claw, yeah he pretty much makes every one's list.
I like the Owl, would loved to see him again.
Homage to Aliens.
Ice Cream Kitty
I do like the ideal of Karai getting turn into a snake though. Wonder were this will lead story wise.

Cons, and I have only a few of em.

Don's crush as said before.
I never did like the ideal of de ageing April and Casey Jones. Saying that I do like Casey Jones.
April's story line is just well out there. I think the weakness April we seen so far. She is almost like this series Venus and less April and that is a problem imo. First we think she is human, and than she is part Krang, and than she has powers. Its a hard pill to shallow in 2 seasons so far.
The Krang as said before are hit or miss imo, and when they miss, they really miss.
As of late the show has been doing April Butt jokes, from Worms feeling up on April to when she switch with Jones, and Jones starting feeling up on April.

[Kilowog]

N. These gaps in release are almost unforgivable for such a big tentpole series.

P. Characterization is pretty solid methinks

[The Vernon]

Welcome to the Technodrome Forums. I love you.

Negative: I really, really love you.

[Foombamaroom]

Positives:
-The Turtles act like teenagers.
-All of the villains are good fighters.
-Shredder whoops ass.
-The new backstories for characters such as Karai are really great.
-They portray Leo and Raph really well.
-This version of Casey works really well.
-Tiger Claw and Slash
-The non-filler episodes are almost always really good.
-The Splinter/Shredder rivalry is better than ever!
-The cast seems very dedicated to the Turtles.
-Voice cast is perfect.

Negatives:
-Way too much Kraang and not enough Foot Clan.
-Too many mutants and homages to the old cartoon.
-Donnie and Mikey are portrayed horribly, but do fit the show at the same time.
-Donnie and April.
-Shredder doesn't face off with the Turtles too often.
-Too much filler.
-Too many Donnie and Leo episodes.
-Mikey is an idiot.
-Splinter and Shredder can be a bit lazy at times.