New She-Ra Series Coming From Dreamworks

[sdp]

This show is for little girls so any toyline would be mass retail, I'm also guessing it's not going to be based on toys. Netflix shows don't seem to be based on that but both Voltron and Stretch Armstrong had a toyline, I'm unsure how the toylines did though. Voltron actually had a special order where Netflix was comitted to 78 episodes from the getgo, I doubt She-Ra would have that but who knows, Paramount and Netflix seem to be good buddies.

[Candy Kappa]

We did see that Mattel are toying with the idea of Barbie and Monster High styled MOTU figures, while the test dolls was vintage style it's possible a modern She-Ra line could form from it.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

But then, I'm the one who grew up with these cartoons, and who internalized the messages they were selling to the point where I became for many years that followed I was a raging misogynist.

I am sorry about your situation, but it looks like people who surrounded you failed to properly explain what is what.
Also, I don't think female superheroines could make you hate all things girly.

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

The character designs on the new one aren't for everyone.
And that's fine, but if one's objections to them are due to the fact that the character doesn't look 'female' enough for you...I have to question if that's a problem with the art or the person viewing the art.

There are some universal biological codifiers, when it comes to sex, which are not (SURPRISE!!) tied to sexism.
Most people have no problems to tell women from men and vice versa.

[Spike Spiegel]

Originally Posted by Sumac

There are some universal biological codifiers, when it comes to sex, which are not (SURPRISE!!) tied to sexism.
Most people have no problems to tell women from men and vice versa.

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

I don't think this show will rely on toys, it'll be like Voltron. But if they did make toys I'd be all over that. But I wonder who'd make them, Mattel or Super7 who currently license MOTU from Mattel, probably depends on specialty figures or mass retail

Voltron only recently got a home video release...and unfortunately it was only a barebones DVD rather than Blu-ray. I have to wonder if the home video market has changed to where we won't see home releases of streaming shows after a point. I'm too cheap to have Netflix, but there are a lot of animated projects they've done that I'd like to see.

I'd imagine there will be a "She-Ra Classics" line if there isn't already.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Spike Spiegel

This is not what I've meant, but thanks for posting one of the my favorite moments in the movies ever.
Also, this statement is no longer approved by your friendly progressive Big Brother.

[PApagreg]

Originally Posted by Sumac

I've spent two posts to explain why I have answered like I did and you still didn't get it.

In my defense your explanation was total nonsense.

Originally Posted by Sumac

I've pointed out that you are literally parroting my points and now you full of indignant displeasure about that I've pointed it out.
Cool. What else can I say? Do you always argue when people pointing out your actions? Like if you go to the shop, do you lecture manager when they say that you've taken milk from the shelf or something?

What points, all I did was put Manchuldren in quotation marks, thats not parroting your points, going by that logic you are parroting my points when you quote me.

Originally Posted by Sumac

I've meant that if her story will be criticized it doesn't make all critics sexists.
I've provided an idea how this situation can (and most likely will) develop in the future. What is so hard to understand about it?

Its hard because you word it weird. The word "if" is a very useful word especially if you want to make a hypothetical scenario and not commenting current events.

Originally Posted by Sumac

Do you need me to literally explain every single point I make in the tiniest detail to figure out what do I mean?

Maybe not in the tiniest detail but enough where I don't have to be a mind reader to understand what you are saying.

Originally Posted by Sumac

My English might not be the best, but at this point I think the problem is with something else.

I feel as if the former is the problem.

Originally Posted by Sumac

Do you always have a penchant to answer rhetorical questions?

How was that a rhetorical question, the function of a rhetorical question is to make a point so what point? Like I said I'm not a mind reader also seeing how you don't know what "Context" is maybe should learn English better before you dip your toe into rhetorical devices.

Originally Posted by Sumac

They have turned grown up woman into teenager.
Such creativity.
For your literal mind I'll explain: it's not about clothes. It's about concept.

So for creativity you complain they only changed a woman to a teenager but in your next sentence you complain they changed to concept so which is it did they change too much or too little.

Originally Posted by Sumac

Most of those examples look like an abstract designs and it's hard to figure out their age by looking at them.

Its almost you like you have to watch the show and find out, suuuuuupppppppeeeeer crazy

Originally Posted by Sumac

But at least now I know that you like cartoons.

My animated avatars and signatures didn't tip you off or how I comment on the Voltron thread. I guess nothing goes by you huh champ?

Originally Posted by Sumac

And I don't think ponies are valid to anything.

The topic is "Mature Female Characters" not "What Sumac thinks is Valid"

Originally Posted by Sumac

"I've never said that She-Ra is a modern example.
That takes us back to the "literal mind" thing.

I just said it lasted for two years, how on Earth did you take that as "Modern Example". I wanna call you literal minded but to be literal minded you have to follow some sort of logic.

Originally Posted by Sumac

Doesn't make her look less like a LSD trip glitch.

Your dealer must be giving you bunk drugs if you think THAT was a LSD trip glitch.

Originally Posted by Sumac

Please, into English translate it.

There are no words in the human language to help me describe the level dumb that starement is. I just asked how many positive child/teen characters were there in the 80s, I thought you can understand a simple question but apparently I overestimated your intelligence

[plastroncafe]

I am really curious to see what kind of dolls get produced for the new cartoon.
My hope Is that there will be both action figure and fashion figure versions.

The former for kids like I was growing up, and the latter for those who prefer something a little more in the Barbie-style.

That said, should this get cancelled due to poor toy sales it will literally be because toy companies don't know how to Market dolls to little girls.

[Machias Banshee]

Papagreg, Sumac, knock it off...

Jeezum, this is a thread about a cartoon. Nobody wants to flip through pages of political bickering.

[TurtleTitan97]

[Vegita-San]

god, it still looks horrible.

and some comments by the writers of this new she ra don't exactly have me inspired for hope either.

[drgon78]

Wow, it looks even worse animated.

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97

looks good

[ABrown]

Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97

My curiosity is peaked. It's definitely the only series that I'm looking forward to out of the next wave of cartoons with Transformers Cyberverse, Rise of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Star Wars Resistance, and Thundercats Go. Whoops, I mean Thundercats Roar.

[Sumac]

Looks inoffensively generic.

[CyberCubed]

The animation really does look like that cheap looking flash animation from the early 2000's. Hard to describe really, but I always dislike when animation looks like that. I understand these shows don't have a big budget, but I miss watching cartoons that looked heavily detailed and were nice to look at.

[Andrew NDB]

It looks definitely like it could be a very "important" series.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

It looks definitely like it could be a very "important" series.

At this point, it seems unthinkable it would be anything else.

[Coola Yagami]

IDK... the voice acting sounds a little too 'intense' for such a simplistic artistic design. She looks literally lifeless in that thumbnail pic.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

It looks definitely like it could be a very "important" series.

I didn't even think of that, but I wouldn't be surprised if She-Ra is a lesbian in this series. Isn't the showrunner/director a lesbian in real life?

[ZariusTwo]

Seahawk is apparently in this reboot also, and while he didn't appear much in the Filmation series, he was always intended as Adora's love interest. In fact, the old Son of He-Man series bible specifically cited them as raising Adam and Teela's son together. Things could change of course.