"It sells less and less every month"

[hypered1]

Originally Posted by neatoman

Yes, this is very annoying and I wish the discussion would just stick to the comic itself. I really hate this culture war crap and I wish people could learn to be more mature about politics than that, realise how fruitless it is to constantly and blindly defend "their side" when the reality is much more complex than "My side, your side". Or at the very least learn to know when discussing politics is appropriate and when it's not to discuss politics, doing so when discussing a comic book with barely any explicit political content because it happens to feature a lesbian pig... I mean... Why don't people just feel stupid doing that? I mean let's be real here, how hard is it to discuss a comic book without feeling the need to discuss some tangentially related real life issue?

Well it would help if people didn't use gender/race nonsense and bigoted viewpoints as excuses for why the comic is supposedly bad.

[MattOnWheels]

Originally Posted by Leo656

I generalize as a rule. It saves time. Again, someone who's lurked here often for a long time would have been prepared for this.

They'd also know that I don't change my mind or behavior at all simply because someone asks nicely or says they disagree. A person is allowed to disagree, and I'm allowed to shake my head and sigh and hope they one day find enlightenment.

I think the mistake people so often make when they engage me in conversation, regardless of topic, is that they somehow think I respect their opinion. I don't know how anyone gets that idea; I think I make it pretty clear that I don't. I mean, we can talk, and that's fine, and I find the back-and-forth amusing or else I wouldn't bother.

But I think some people really feel like there's a chance they might somehow change my mind if they just keep trying, and I can assure You and They that simply isn't ever going to happen. Regardless of topic, it just isn't going to happen. And I feel like people need to know that upfront before they choose to engage. It'll save them a ton of heartburn and typing.

Talking is the most important thing two opposing sides can do though, Leo. It's the most necessary thing we can do as a species to evolve and learn to overcome the things that divide us. I think you may feel alone in your viewpoints a lot and thus express a lot of misery about that. You wish things were different. Well, in some ways I can agree and in some ways I can't, but it seems like you might actually think that I'm part of a side that's trying to ruin your world. The world that made sense to you, and that anything that dare challenge that is "Crazy" - I also understand that you must think that I see YOU as an enemy to my ideals, but the truth is I really don't. I think you genuinely don't want to hurt anyone with your opinions or the way you conduct yourself, and I think you think there's no reason anyone should be, and if they are, it's there problem. You aren't the first person in this world to conduct themselves like that, and i wouldn't be surprised if you thought I was doing the same thing. Certainly there have been those that are more on my side regarding these issues that have been that way toward you, and for that I apologize on behalf of the importance of having civil discourse. Understand, though: Not all of us think you're some bully towards us, even if we disagree with you.

I do think, however, that just as you've confessed by your own admission there are times where you can be "Too much of a d*ck", I would say that from my own observations these subjects appear to bring that out of you, and some of it is your own fault. Not all of it, but some of it. I think you do bring it on yourself, and it shouldn't be our responsibility to merely "Like it or lump it" when you come forth with things that are at times unnecessarily confrontational.

But hey, it's just my own two cents and besides: No one is perfect, man. All Im saying is, I wish sometimes you'd try to build more bridges instead of walls. Then again, you aren't the only person on either side of this debate I find myself wishing that about right now. This thread is starting to get rather absurd in my view. I think we can all do well to chill, myself.

Edit: I think your other post serves as a confirmation to what I'm saying here as well, coincidentally. The fact of the matter is we can all stand to treat each other better.

Originally Posted by hypered1

Well it would help if people didn't use gender/race nonsense and bigoted viewpoints as excuses for why the comic is supposedly bad.

See, this is what Leo doesn't like, and I don't blame him. You can be a little more understanding on your end in the same way he can.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by hypered1

That's because you're a brain-dead dipsh1t.

Awwwwwww, wittle baby dwopped their bottle again.

If I were you I'd sue the doctor who handled your transition; you claim you identify as "a man" but you project nothing but estrogen constantly.

Make no mistake; no matter what you claim to be, you are NOT "a man", never were, and never will be. You're a life-loser throwing a tantrum on a message board because people have dissenting taste in comic books, and the world will be better off once you finally take to heart just how completely worthless you really are and do what comes naturally in such situations.

You contribute nothing, you are nothing, and we'd all be better off without you. So if you're at all on the fence, don't be: Do The Right Thing.

I'd hate for you to screw it up, so here: 25g Sodium Nitrate in 50ml of water, mix well and take a nap. Have fun!

[hypered1]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Awwwwwww, wittle baby dwopped their bottle again.

If I were you I'd sue the doctor who handled your transition; you claim you identify as "a man" but you project nothing but estrogen constantly.

Make no mistake; no matter what you claim to be, you are NOT "a man", never were, and never will be. You're a life-loser throwing a tantrum on a message board because people have dissenting taste in comic books, and the world will be better off once you finally take to heart just how completely worthless you really are and do what comes naturally in such situations.

You contribute nothing, you are nothing, and we'd all be better off without you. So if you're at all on the fence, don't be: Do The Right Thing.

I'd hate for you to screw it up, so here: 25g Sodium Nitrate in 50ml of water, mix well and take a nap. Have fun!

Go fvck yourself. I've contributed more to this board in four years than you ever have or ever will.
Please just throw yourself under a bus for all our sakes.

[MattOnWheels]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Awwwwwww, wittle baby dwopped their bottle again.

If I were you I'd sue the doctor who handled your transition; you claim you identify as "a man" but you project nothing but estrogen constantly.

Make no mistake; no matter what you claim to be, you are NOT "a man", never were, and never will be. You're a life-loser throwing a tantrum on a message board because people have dissenting taste in comic books, and the world will be better off once you finally take to heart just how completely worthless you really are and do what comes naturally in such situations.

You contribute nothing, you are nothing, and we'd all be better off without you. So if you're at all on the fence, don't be: Do The Right Thing.

I'd hate for you to screw it up, so here: 25g Sodium Nitrate in 50ml of water, mix well and take a nap. Have fun!

If it helps, I forgot to add his post under the other one i quoted. I don't endorse the way they're acting either.

Edit: But, BOTH OF YOU need to stop. I say that respectfully.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by MattOnWheels

Talking is the most important thing two opposing sides can do though, Leo.

I haven't made myself clear, apparently.

The "two sides" are My Side and The Wrong Side. I'm not concerned with what The Wrong Side has to say, and the more they push, the less I'm interested.

You and others seem to think I hold other people in some kind of regard. I don't.

I am a self-centered, self-absorbed, self-righteous narcissist with a strong sociopathic streak. I only engage with and surround myself with people who can handle that. Considering how low my regard for most people is, I have no interest at all in dragging myself down to their level. They're welcome to try and bring themselves up to mine, but it for certain is not going the other way.

I am not under any obligation whatsoever to be "nice", or "kind", or even polite if I don't see the value in it. I don't care about the feelings of other people. Other People do not pay my bills or enrich my life. They are simply toys for amusement, tools for engagement, or obstacles to be overcome.

You can ask me to "be nice". I'll only ever reply, "No, not ever." There's no reward in it, whereas at least talking down to people is amusing and fulfilling sometimes.

I'm shocked at how often people just don't seem to understand just who it is they're talking to, and try to reason with someone who's made it repeatedly and abundantly clear that they cannot be "reasoned with". It's bizarre.

I'm not here to be nice. I'm here to call stupid people Stupid and see how many of them I can talk into lighting themselves on fire. Because it amuses me.

If I wanted to have intelligent discourse with intelligent people, I wouldn't be on a message board with a bunch of middle-aged people who obsess about cartoons as if that makes them anything but f*cking tragic.

Again, take notes so as to be more prepared for future engagements.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by hypered1

Go fvck yourself. I've contributed more to this board in four years than you ever have or ever will.
Please just throw yourself under a bus for all our sakes.

What have you "contributed" besides release dates for the comics - which literally anyone with Google can do - and a bunch of "We Need Gay Stuff In Everything Because I Said So"? C'mon, SoyBoy.

I wrestle lions and I shadow-box in hurricanes. You cry in your almond milk because not everyone wants Gay Ninja Turtle Comics. Every time you come at me I feel like Mike Tyson trying to spar with a two-legged dog.

Seriously, Man-Bun... your parents failed, your teachers failed, your doctors failed, your therapist failed, and YOU have failed. Your single greatest "contribution" to the entire human race will be the day you remove yourself from it once and for all.

Don't make us wait! I'm infamously short on patience, and I've already got my outfit picked out for the parade I'm gonna throw.

[MattOnWheels]

Originally Posted by Leo656

I haven't made myself clear, apparently.

The "two sides" are My Side and The Wrong Side. I'm not concerned with what The Wrong Side has to say, and the more they push, the less I'm interested.

You and others seem to think I hold other people in some kind of regard. I don't.

I am a self-centered, self-absorbed, self-righteous narcissist with a strong sociopathic streak. I only engage with and surround myself with people who can handle that. Considering how low my regard for most people is, I have no interest at all in dragging myself down to their level. They're welcome to try and bring themselves up to mine, but it for certain is not going the other way.

I am not under any obligation whatsoever to be "nice", or "kind", or even polite if I don't see the value in it. I don't care about the feelings of other people. Other People do not pay my bills or enrich my life. They are simply toys for amusement, tools for engagement, or obstacles to be overcome.

You can ask me to "be nice". I'll only ever reply, "No, not ever." There's no reward in it, whereas at least talking down to people is amusing and fulfilling sometimes.

I'm shocked at how often people just don't seem to understand just who it is they're talking to, and try to reason with someone who's made it repeatedly and abundantly clear that they cannot be "reasoned with". It's bizarre.

I'm not here to be nice. I'm here to call stupid people Stupid and see how many of them I can talk into lighting themselves on fire. Because it amuses me.

If I wanted to have intelligent discourse with intelligent people, I wouldn't be on a message board with a bunch of middle-aged people who obsess about cartoons as if that makes them anything but f*cking tragic.

Again, take notes so as to be more prepared for future engagements.

You're the one setting those conditiones when it isn't necessary though. The world isn't built in pure black and white, and even if it were, YOU YOURSELF said you can do better. If you believe that, well...be a little better. I know aren't a bad person, but to be honest this post is one of the worst I've seen from you. You're better than this. I know you are, because I've read it from you. You aren't some brooding heel character like this rather cartoonish post reads. You're a human being. You must know that or you wouldn't have acknowledged the very flaws you listed. So, maybe just take a step back and realize that yes, some of this IS in your power to make better.

[hypered1]

Originally Posted by Leo656

What have you "contributed" besides release dates for the comics - which literally anyone with Google can do - and a bunch of "We Need Gay Stuff In Everything Because I Said So"? C'mon, SoyBoy.

I wrestle lions and I shadow-box in hurricanes. You cry in your almond milk because not everyone wants Gay Ninja Turtle Comics. Every time you come at me I feel like Mike Tyson trying to spar with a two-legged dog.

Seriously, Man-Bun... your parents failed, your teachers failed, your doctors failed, your therapist failed, and YOU have failed. Your single greatest "contribution" to the entire human race will be the day you remove yourself from it once and for all.

Don't make us wait! I'm infamously short on patience, and I've already got my outfit picked out for the parade I'm gonna throw.

Useful information has a purpose unlike the antagonistic drivel that you spout. Not to mention I've actually been thanked for my contributions - not once have I ever seen you be thanked for anything.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by MattOnWheels

You're the one setting those conditiones when it isn't necessary though. The world isn't built in pure black and white, and even if it were, YOU YOURSELF said you can do better. If you believe that, well...be a little better. I know aren't a bad person, but to be honest this post is one of the worst I've seen from you. You're better than this. I know you are, because I've read it from you. You aren't some brooding heel character like this rather cartoonish post reads. You're a human being. You must know that or you wouldn't have acknowledged the very flaws you listed. So, maybe just take a step back and realize that yes, some of this IS in your power to make better.

They're not "flaws" if you love it, Champ. And make no mistake, I do LOVE it.

By "do better", I meant "I can be an even bigger dick with just the tiniest bit more effort." You thought I meant "be nicer"? Oh Jesus, God, no. No, no, we're not gonna be seeing any of That around here. Sorry if I gave out any mixed signals.

I assume you missed my New Year's Resolution post where I flat-out promised to be even more of a scumbag to everyone here because I'm completely fed up with their nonsense and terrible opinions. It's okay, it was in the General Discussion area and it seems like you don't get over there much. But yeah, I made a promise, and I try very hard to keep my promises.

You seem like a nice guy. That's okay, you can be "nice" for the both of us. I am very much NOT that, and I sincerely apologize if I gave you (or anyone) that impression somehow. It was not in any way my intent.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by hypered1

Useful information has a purpose unlike the antagonistic drivel that you spout. Not to mention I've actually been thanked for my contributions - not once have I ever seen you be thanked for anything.

Congratulations on your self-satisfaction at performing a meaningless task, as well as your low self-esteem and the constant craving for validation it creates within you.

If you want my "thanks", you know what you have to do.

[MattOnWheels]

Originally Posted by Leo656

They're not "flaws" if you love it, Champ. And make no mistake, I do LOVE it.

By "do better", I meant "I can be an even bigger dick with just the tiniest bit more effort." You thought I meant "be nicer"? Oh Jesus, God, no. No, no, we're not gonna be seeing any of That around here. Sorry if I gave out any mixed signals.

I assume you missed my New Year's Resolution post where I flat-out promised to be even more of a scumbag to everyone here because I'm completely fed up with their nonsense and terrible opinions. It's okay, it was in the General Discussion area and it seems like you don't get over there much. But yeah, I made a promise, and I try very hard to keep my promises.

You seem like a nice guy. That's okay, you can be "nice" for the both of us. I am very much NOT that, and I sincerely apologize if I gave you (or anyone) that impression somehow. It was not in any way my intent.

I know you're in your heel persona right now, but i'll bite: If you really are here to be nothing but antagonistic, then that would put you well within rights to be banned. Now, I don't believe you're serious at all about a single thing you said. I think you're just having fun and im sorry im not keeping the Kayfabe alive right now, but you really do need to stop either way. You've made better contributions than...er...whatever this is.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by hypered1

Well it would help if people didn't use gender/race nonsense and bigoted viewpoints

On that part we agree. Though I don't think we will agree on who is doing it.

[hypered1]

Originally Posted by MattOnWheels

I know you're in your heel persona right now, but i'll bite: If you really are here to be nothing but antagonistic, then that would put you well within rights to be banned. Now, I don't believe you're serious at all about a single thing you said. I think you're just having fun and im sorry im not keeping the Kayfabe alive right now, but you really do need to stop either way. You've made better contributions than...er...whatever this is.

By rights a lot of us should have been banned many times over, but unfortunately moderation on this board is basically non-existent. That's why some of us shout down those with poor attitudes even if it paints us in not much better light.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by MattOnWheels

I know you're in your heel persona right now, but i'll bite: If you really are here to be nothing but antagonistic, then that would put you well within rights to be banned. Now, I don't believe you're serious at all about a single thing you said. I think you're just having fun and im sorry im not keeping the Kayfabe alive right now, but you really do need to stop either way. You've made better contributions than...er...whatever this is.

"Persona".

"Person says flat-out, 'I Am Not A Nice Guy', Other Person Insists Otherwise."

No, man, I'm just Not A Nice Guy.

This is not the only avenue in which I've wished death upon people simply for inconveniencing me. I do it all the time, because it is my sincere belief that people only serve two functions: Ally or Obstacle. Allies are to be exploited for personal gain until they cease to be of further use, Obstacles are to be removed from the equation permanently. Ergo, whenever someone becomes an inconvenience, it is my sincere and heartfelt wish that they cease to be so that I am no longer inconvenienced by them ever again.

I believe strongly that Might Makes Right and that violence does indeed solve everything. I advocate strongly for eugenics because I seriously, REALLY feel like we need to start weeding the really stupid and defective people out of the gene pool.

Sociopaths exist, "friend". The difference between myself and most is that a lot of them secretly want to be liked, so they turn on the charm and cover it up. I'm not especially in need of favor, especially not from people I look down on such as the plebeians who congregate in this sh*thole.

I am very content being a "Bad Person". It's amusing, it's cathartic, and I never, ever have to lie to anyone. It's much, much easier this way.

My friendly advice to you would be, "when people tell you who they are, don't project, don't tell them who they 'really' are... just Listen."

Again, if I EVER somehow gave you the impression I was one of the "good guys"... well, I sincerely don't know how the hell that ever could have happened.
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As for the possibility of being Banned... guess it's a good thing that the Sherriff and the Deputy are both huge fans of mine, huh? And also that they have bigger concerns at present than "That guy's being nasty to people again."

[red1981]

you want to know why very few people use this forums, just look at the gatekeepers in this read what they say they dont like any idea that doesnt fit there world view, very sad

[Leo656]

EDIT: I didn't pay attention to whom I was speaking. I did not notice that you were the person with the brain issues and I retract my insult.

[MattOnWheels]

Originally Posted by Leo656

"Persona".

"Person says flat-out, 'I Am Not A Nice Guy', Other Person Insists Otherwise."

No, man, I'm just Not A Nice Guy.

This is not the only avenue in which I've wished death upon people simply for inconveniencing me. I do it all the time, because it is my sincere belief that people only serve two functions: Ally or Obstacle. Allies are to be exploited for personal gain until they cease to be of further use, Obstacles are to be removed from the equation permanently. Ergo, whenever someone becomes an inconvenience, it is my sincere and heartfelt wish that they cease to be so that I am no longer inconvenienced by them ever again.

I believe strongly that Might Makes Right and that violence does indeed solve everything. I advocate strongly for eugenics because I seriously, REALLY feel like we need to start weeding the really stupid and defective people out of the gene pool.

Sociopaths exist, "friend". The difference between myself and most is that a lot of them secretly want to be liked, so they turn on the charm and cover it up. I'm not especially in need of favor, especially not from people I look down on such as the plebeians who congregate in this sh*thole.

I am very content being a "Bad Person". It's amusing, it's cathartic, and I never, ever have to lie to anyone. It's much, much easier this way.

My friendly advice to you would be, "when people tell you who they are, don't project, don't tell them who they 'really' are... just Listen."

Again, if I EVER somehow gave you the impression I was one of the "good guys"... well, I sincerely don't know how the hell that ever could have happened.
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As for the possibility of being Banned... guess it's a good thing that the Sherriff and the Deputy are both huge fans of mine, huh? And also that they have bigger concerns at present than "That guy's being nasty to people again."

Well, you're funny to read like this, I admit. But you might risk not having your post being taken as seriously. If you're just trying to be as contrarian as you can for the sake of getting a rise out of people, well, then why should we respect you if you don't respect yourself? I mean, if you really have no desire to be good to people, what are you?

and don't get it twisted: I have nothing against you being how you are. I can't control you...but I also don't believe you. You had better viewpoints that were contradictory to these in this very thread for God's sake.

[Leo656]

so·ci·o·path
noun
a person with a personality disorder manifesting itself in extreme antisocial attitudes and behavior and a lack of conscience.


nar·cis·sist
noun
a person who has an excessive interest in or admiration of themselves

....Math checks out.

I'm also baffled as to how I can say out loud, "The only person whose opinions I hold in any esteem are my own" and you turn around and accuse me of "not respecting myself". How I can say "The only one I have any actual respect for is Me" and you can get the literal opposite meaning from that statement, I have no idea.

Do I need to make my wife reactivate her old account just so she can come in here and testify that I'm actually way worse in Real Life than I am here? Nobody, and I mean NOBODY wants that.

Look, Lefties and Libbies are somehow conditioned to think that deep down everybody is secretly a "good person". That's their prerogative.

But that simply isn't true. It just isn't.

Believe what you want, I guess. It's just... bizarre.

[Allio]

Originally Posted by Weapons@theready

I mean if it isn't mentioned and you throw in the fact that there are no context clues to hint at it then it absolutely stands to reason that it wasn't there.

Wasn’t one of the early complaints was that she had “Dyke hair?”