Donald Trump Hush money trial

[TurtleManiac]

Originally Posted by Mayhem

Civil case found guilty, $5M. Probably not going to hurt him in any way.

Imagine focusing on Trump when the U.S. border is about to be invaded by 700,000 immigrants entering illegally. Oh wait, you’re in England, nevermind.

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

lets see. a 'totally impartial' judge and jury in woke new york city found him guilty. yep, not going too hurt him.

Democrats had to change the statue of limitations law so E. Jean Carroll could sue Trump. It’s a clown show. Jury finds that E. Jean Carroll lied about being raped by Trump, then holds Trump “liable” for defamation, for saying E. Jean Carroll lied about being raped by Trump.

[ChosenOne]

Well, they got him now for sure! This will in no way whatsoever backfire on the witch hunters!

[Bahamut810]

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

lets see. a 'totally impartial' judge and jury in woke new york city found him guilty. yep, not going too hurt him.

That's one of my big retorts if I ever talk to anyone about throwing him in jail. No where in the USA will he be able to get a fair jury. NO WHERE. Even if they can get a few people who don't care, any jury will still be loaded with people who love him and will vote him innocent or hate him and vote him guilty before he even walks in the court room. In any given case he has a constitutional appeal handed to him because he wouldn't be able to get a fair trial.

[Bahamut810]

Originally Posted by TurtleManiac

Imagine focusing on Trump when the U.S. border is about to be invaded by 700,000 immigrants entering illegally. Oh wait, you’re in England, nevermind.



Democrats had to change the statue of limitations law so E. Jean Carroll could sue Trump. It’s a clown show. Jury finds that E. Jean Carroll lied about being raped by Trump, then holds Trump “liable” for defamation, for saying E. Jean Carroll lied about being raped by Trump.

Its important to note...he was not found guilty of rape. He was found "may have more then not" of sexually abusing and defaming her.

[ChosenOne]

Originally Posted by Bahamut810

Its important to note...he was not found guilty of rape. He was found "may have more then not" of sexually abusing and defaming her.

A solid basis for a conviction if I ever saw one.

[IndigoErth]

Have his old media friends entirely turned their backs on him? A town hall with CNN is rather unexpected, almost bizarre. He did not help his cause at all with all that lying and bitching about everything still. World's biggest self-appointed victim.

But shame on that audience for actually laughing over sexual assault. No matter how anyone feels about him or their opinion on that court case... wtf. But they're prob the same kind of people voted in George Santos so I can't say I'm surprised.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Have his old media friends entirely turned their backs on him? A town hall with CNN is rather unexpected, almost bizarre.

I guess this is also thanks to Davis Zaslav. He wants equal coverage of republicans and democrats on CNN now going forward. So horrible and unthinkable, I know! If only the other side could be silenced!

https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/cnn...av-1235604489/

But shame on that audience for actually laughing over sexual assault.

It's because it is an imaginary one.

[Bahamut810]

Originally Posted by ChosenOne

A solid basis for a conviction if I ever saw one.

Thats the entire reason why its civil rather then criminal after all. Imagine how much you can roll your eyes knowing that he was suffering no threat of jail *at all* when people started going on about how he left the country to visit some of his other properties because he might get away.

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

So horrible and unthinkable, I know! If only the other side could be silenced!

Nothing to do with that. The weird part is Trump doing it.

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

It's because it is an imaginary one.

No, that isn't a funny subject, period. Despicable of anyone who acts like it is.

[Galactus]

I just can't believe a man who was caught on tape openly bragging about sexually assaulting women would actually sexually assault a woman. Clearly this is an establishment stitch up.

[ChosenOne]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

(...) all that lying and bitching about everything still. World's biggest self-appointed victim.

Keep it up, I'm sure you'll get the crown back.

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

But shame on that audience for actually laughing over sexual assault.

That's like being angry at the people who laughed at, say, Gennaro's death in Jurassic Park. It's not real.

Originally Posted by Bahamut810

Thats the entire reason why its civil rather then criminal after all. Imagine how much you can roll your eyes knowing that he was suffering no threat of jail *at all* when people started going on about how he left the country to visit some of his other properties because he might get away.

Hardly the only reason folks were rolling their eyes at this.

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Nothing to do with that. The weird part is Trump doing it.

Yeah, if only Trump could be silenced... How weird that people would want to go back to world peace, a strong economy and low gas prices. Sick f*cks, amirite?

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

No, that isn't a funny subject, period. Despicable of anyone who acts like it is.

Originally Posted by Galactus

I just can't believe a man who was caught on tape openly bragging about sexually assaulting women would actually sexually assault a woman. Clearly this is an establishment stitch up.

Not bragging that he did it. Bragging that they'd let him. There's a world of difference. And, you know, he's not wrong... The very fact that being, say, a footballer's wife is a career path unto itself speaks volumes. And the real rub...? There's nothing wrong with that. It’s just how the world works.

[Bahamut810]

Originally Posted by ChosenOne

Not bragging that he did it. Bragging that they'd let him. There's a world of difference. And, you know, he's not wrong... The very fact that being, say, a footballer's wife is a career path unto itself speaks volumes. And the real rub...? There's nothing wrong with that. It’s just how the world works.

Imagine being so anti-woman and anti-sex work that you would criticize someone for assisting them at their leisure for the decisions they make...

[Galactus]

You know, I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.

From that the least you could say he has kissed women without their consent. Does he not think that the power imbalance is why some of these women would let him kiss them. We know several contestants of his Miss Universe pageants were not okay with him just walking into their dressing room and touching them but felt they couldn't openly protest because he was in charge of the whole thing.

Don't you think that all this was a huge stitch up they would have gotten him on the worst charge? As it stands there was enough evidence for a jury to find that Trump assaulted E. Jean Carrol but not enough to say that he was able to penetrate her. Frankly he'd been better off with the Sideshow Bob defense..."Attempted murder," now honestly, did they ever give anyone a Nobel prize for "attempted chemistry"?

[ChosenOne]

Originally Posted by Bahamut810

Imagine being so anti-woman and anti-sex work that you would criticize someone for assisting them at their leisure for the decisions they make...

Do you mind rephrasing that, please? I'm confused at some of the wording.

Originally Posted by Galactus

From that the least you could say he has kissed women without their consent.

From that, what you get is an endlessly twisted fragment of normal locker room talk about the way women behave towards powerful men. I don't expect people who've never shot the sh*t with their friends to understand.

Originally Posted by Galactus

Don't you think that all this was a huge stitch up they would have gotten him on the worst charge?

Not when the plan was to get him on something, anything. Of course they couldn't find evidence of something that never happened but the biased jury still performed as expected. Not that anyone who matters cares.

Originally Posted by Galactus

(...) now honestly, did they ever give anyone a Nobel prize for "attempted chemistry"?

Ask Carroll, she's the one who claims her chemistry with Trump was immediate the moment she locked eyes with him at that store (you know, before she realized there was money to be made in a false rape charge), and she sure gave her best attempt at passing it off as the truth.

[Galactus]

Originally Posted by ChosenOne

From that, what you get is an endlessly twisted fragment of normal locker room talk about the way women behave towards powerful men. I don't expect people who've never shot the sh*t with their friends to understand.

From that, what you get is that he's kissed multiple women against their will. Bare in mind the wider context of that conversation is him describing how he tried to cheat on his current wife. Locker room talk is something like "that girl is so hot, the things I would do to her if I had the chance" that was a description of things he'd actially done with women.

Not when the plan was to get him on something, anything. Of course they couldn't find evidence of something that never happened but the biased jury still performed as expected. Not that anyone who matters cares.

If the jury was so biased and the whole thing a stitch up why not get him on all counts and forever brand him a rapist? That would clearly be them "performing as expected" but clearly there wasn't enough evidence that he penetrated her with his Toad penis but there was enough to show he tried to force himself on her.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Bahamut810

Imagine being so anti-woman and anti-sex work that you would criticize someone for assisting them at their leisure for the decisions they make...

Prostitution is not a work.

[ChosenOne]

Originally Posted by Galactus

From that, what you get is that he's kissed multiple women against their will.

That's what you wanted to hear, not what he said.

Originally Posted by Galactus

If the jury was so biased and the whole thing a stitch up why not get him on all counts and forever brand him a rapist?

What part of "It's not real, it didn't happen" don't you understand? There is no evidence of anything because nothing happened and the biased jury decided solely on hearsay.

Originally Posted by Galactus

(...) his Toad penis (...)

So glad you're able to remain rational and not at all hateful. Is that a description from memory? Gonna make up a claim and press charges too?

[TurtleManiac]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Have his old media friends entirely turned their backs on him? A town hall with CNN is rather unexpected, almost bizarre. He did not help his cause at all with all that lying and bitching about everything still. World's biggest self-appointed victim.

But shame on that audience for actually laughing over sexual assault. No matter how anyone feels about him or their opinion on that court case... wtf. But they're prob the same kind of people voted in George Santos so I can't say I'm surprised.

Originally Posted by Galactus

I just can't believe a man who was caught on tape openly bragging about sexually assaulting women would actually sexually assault a woman. Clearly this is an establishment stitch up.

I feel your pain, today we are all E. Jean Carroll.

Do you believe Ashley Biden?

[Bahamut810]

Originally Posted by Sumac

Prostitution is not a work.

Incorrect. Prositution is one person entering into a contract with another person to pay them for their labor at a pre-established rate. If contracting to roof a house is a job, prostitution is as well.

[ChosenOne]

Originally Posted by TurtleManiac

I feel your pain, today we are all E. Jean Carroll.

Do you believe Ashley Biden?

Odd, I don't feel like a lying gold digger today. Maybe tomorrow?

Do you believe Amber Heard?