The Official TMNT 2 (2016) Set Photos/Videos Thread

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Originally Posted by Foombamaroom

Krang: Only a Leoprime can defeat me.

you know what i just realized..the autobots had more introduction and "development" in one meeting scene than the turtles did

[Technogeek29]

Originally Posted by Foombamaroom

I honestly think it's the hair and the fact that we haven't seen the mask except for one time. I feel like Stephen Amell is going to be great with what he has to work with. It's the writing that's got me concerned. But the hair? I feel like the hair should be just a bit longer. I don't expect him to have his usual long hair, but at least give him something (Nick Cartoon, for example) instead of just a short haircut. I dunno. I don't think the writers are going to do Casey much justice, but we'll pray for the best.

At least him not getting screen time isn't a problem, humans don't seem to have that problem in these movies. I wouldn't mind Casey being the focus if the Turtles or any of the characters from the last movie were established or fleshed out beyond their archetypes. Didn't like Leo was shelved in SOTO? That's ok in the first movie you already got a feel for his character so it hardly mattered.

[pennydreadful]

Originally Posted by Jester

But that's only the Mirage Casey. FW Casey was a complete sociopath who enforced even the smallest of crimes, movie Casey was just a NHL washout turned vigilante, 4Kids Casey was some dude who watched to much TV news...I guess...., and Nick and IDW Casey are just a kid who likes action.

Well hold onto your seats folks, cuz BayCasey drives an XTREME car to make up for his erectile dysfunction, and looks like he waxes his chest. Bet he manscapes too. Probably gets Raph to hold the hand-mirror while he tweezers the under-carriage.

[Powder]

Originally Posted by Jester

But that's only the original & thus single most important version of the character who serves as the foundation for virtually all that would follow up to this point.

Fixed that for you.

[Jester]

Originally Posted by Powder

Fixed that for you.

Doing that a lot lately, huh?

Just saying, of all the characters in the TMNT canon, Casey's fairly flexable....though to be fair the more of Amell I see as Casey the less I see Casey and the more I see Oliver Queen in a hockey mask.

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by Foombamaroom

I honestly think it's the hair and the fact that we haven't seen the mask except for one time. I feel like Stephen Amell is going to be great with what he has to work with. It's the writing that's got me concerned. But the hair? I feel like the hair should be just a bit longer. I don't expect him to have his usual long hair, but at least give him something (Nick Cartoon, for example) instead of just a short haircut. I dunno. I don't think the writers are going to do Casey much justice, but we'll pray for the best.

I'm really kind of hoping that, should this turn into several movies, they'll actually make his character turn crazier/unstable over time through films and grow the hair out to go along with it, adding more visual difference to a transformation of the character.

Do I trust that they possess the kind of creativity required to do something like that... No. (But I just did that part, film makers/writers, just take it if you want...)

[Powder]

Originally Posted by Jester

Doing that a lot lately, huh?

Just saying, of all the characters in the TMNT canon, Casey's fairly flexable....though to be fair the more of Amell I see as Casey the less I see Casey and the more I see Oliver Queen in a hockey mask.

Flexible, sure, but never to this extent, if only visually. There is not one thing CJ about this guy beyond the mask, & even that looks like utter dogsh*t.

[Jester]

Well, his dialogue could be very....

I can't even finish that sentence, cause it ain't happenin'.

[Bry]

Well, I think all of the TMNT characters have proven fairly flexible, but there's a pretty common take on Casey that makes him feel "right" - he's a violent, not-quite-stable kind of guy (at least at first) who has very grungy, blue-collar sensibilities and methods. The original is that perfect Mirage parody vision -- instead of being a vigilante motivated by personal tragedy, he's just a nutcase who watches too much violent TV -- but beyond that all of the versions that qualify as "real characters" stick pretty close to the original concept, though often modified or toned down a bit.

Either way, Casey's never been a clean-cut, crew cut-sporting dude who drives a $60,000 car.

Hell, with superhero movies being absolutely everywhere lately, this would be the perfect time to use that original version in a major motion picture -- turn the typical hero motivation on its head and be a bit clever and subversive, doing for movies what Mirage did for comics. But there's absolutely zero chance of that happening, because nobody involved in these movies knows or cares about context, history, or what makes these characters tick.

And yeah - Elias Koteas forever. Nobody's topped that in 25 years, and it looks like nobody's gonna come close any time soon either.

[Foombamaroom]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

I'm really kind of hoping that, should this turn into several movies, they'll actually make his character turn crazier/unstable over time through films and grow the hair out to go along with it, adding more visual difference to a transformation of the character.

Do I trust that they possess the kind of creativity required to do something like that... No. (But I just did that part, film makers/writers, just take it if you want...)

They most definitely do not have the creativity to write that. I think that's a huge problem with trilogies, though; when you map out a story for each movie. Each movie should have its own feel and should be different, but it should follow the same overarching plot. Think of the original Star Wars trilogy for example. It's basically the perfect formula. The first movie concludes on its own terms, but leaves plenty of room for a sequel. The second movie is where **** hits the fan, ends on a cliffhanger, and major twists happen. The third movie is where everything is resolved and you get your ending, whether its happy or sad.

[Leo656]

"Fast and Furious 295 made 80 billion dollars. Let's have that Joe Casey guy or whatever the hell his name is drive a muscle car. Kids dig that stupid sh*t."

Everything. Is. AWFUL. Not only is Casey a Dudebro sh*thead with a fancy muscle car, the stuff in those videos was pretty cheesy lookin', too. These guys are a traveling circus.

They're REALLY trying! They HAVE to be trying to be this silly and off-mark. Hoooooly SH*T. You can't be serious. You CAN'T be serious. Ohhhh maaaaaan. Oooof. Just OOF.

Originally Posted by pennydreadful

looks like he waxes his chest. Bet he manscapes too.

I gotta shave my chest to wrazzle. What of it? I seen you eyeballin' me, hambone... you wanna scrap?!

[pennydreadful]

Don't camel-clutch me, jabroni!

[Leo656]

Spoiler:

"EX-ZACK-LY, jabroni! You gotta smoke more kush, baba! VOT DE HELL IS WRONG VIT CHOO?!?"

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by Bry

Well, I think all of the TMNT characters have proven fairly flexible, but there's a pretty common take on Casey that makes him feel "right" - he's a violent, not-quite-stable kind of guy (at least at first) who has very grungy, blue-collar sensibilities and methods.

.........

Either way, Casey's never been a clean-cut, crew cut-sporting dude who drives a $60,000 car.

But you don't get it - a $60,000 dollar car IS a poor mans car, in Hollywood.

Don't you watch Entourage?

[Candy Kappa]

This Oliver Queen on Holliday crossover looks great, you guys.

[Leo656]

How much do you want to bet that they're going to cram in, just, the worst and cheesiest and most forced Green Arrow jokes ever imagined. Just to really nail it home. "Look, kids, it's the 'Arrow' guy!"

Instant classics like:

Michelangelo: "You comin' with us, dude?"
"Casey": "Nah, wouldn't feel right... I don't look good in green." (Pregnant pause for GUFFAWS of laughter)

And...

"Casey": "Well, I *used* to be a hockey player, but..."
Michelangelo: "Wait! Let me guess! You took an Arrow to the knee!"

See that? That last one doesn't even make any sense contextually! But it's an inside joke reference to that other thing he did you guys like when Verne ate that gross sandwich in the first one it was a reference to that other thing he was in and nobody remembered why it was funny until it was explained to them and isn't that so clever and neat and not at all stupid and unnecessary?!

You know they're gonna be all over it. Stop winking at me, movie.

[Technogeek29]

Originally Posted by Leo656

How much do you want to bet that they're going to cram in, just, the worst and cheesiest and most forced Green Arrow jokes ever imagined. Just to really nail it home. "Look, kids, it's the 'Arrow' guy!"

Instant classics like:

Michelangelo: "You comin' with us, dude?"
"Casey": "Nah, wouldn't feel right... I don't look good in green." (Pregnant pause for GUFFAWS of laughter)

And...

"Casey": "Well, I *used* to be a hockey player, but..."
Michelangelo: "Wait! Let me guess! You took an Arrow to the knee!"

See that? That last one doesn't even make any sense contextually! But it's an inside joke reference to that other thing he did you guys like when Verne ate that gross sandwich in the first one it was a reference to that other thing he was in and nobody remembered why it was funny until it was explained to them and isn't that so clever and neat and not at all stupid and unnecessary?!

You know they're gonna be all over it. Stop winking at me, movie.

Oh god I see it. More shoehorned pop culture jokes. At least The Turtles Band reference was a good one (even though no kid on earth would catch it) Or the Usagi one those I liked the others even the pizza gag from the first movie, not so much.

Unrelated note I wish this slang you dudes keep using was in circulation on the streets it's hilarious.

[Jester]

I'm still half expecting an "Eric Sacks, YOU HAVE FAILED THIS CITY!!!"

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by Jester

I'm still half expecting an "Eric Sacks, YOU HAVE FAILED THIS CITY!!!"

Ohhhhh gaaaaaaaaaawwwwwd...

OR how about this bullsh*t:

((Turtles see Casey from behind, standing rigid, enshrouded in shadow. His hood is pulled up.))

Mikey: "Woooooahh, you guys, is that...?!"
Donnie: "Naaah, couldn't be..."

((Casey whips around to face them, his face covered by that oversized Lord Zedd hockey mask of his. Turtles gasp. Casey waits all of 1.5 seconds and then pulls up his mask to show his face, because holy sh*t, they're paying the guy from Green Arrow and thus you just HAVE to push for those close-ups.))

Leo: "Uhh... I don't know... IS it him?"
Raph: "Hard to tell without all'a that mascara smeared all over his face."
Mikey: "HAH! That show's silly."
Casey: ((Blinks repeatedly, possibly rubs eyes with both fists and makes a bug-eyed face)) "What... ARE you...?!" (Original Quote Source: Every Science Fiction Movie Ever [citation needed])

Hmm. Envisioning it, that's sh*tty but sickeningly plausible. I mean, it's not hard to picture them doing exactly that. And that's terrible.

...I just realized the entire reason Amell got hired, is because someone at PD saw an episode of "Arrow" and realized that if you squint, Ollie's quiver could kindasorta be Casey's golf bag, aaaaand NOW I want to hit someone.

[Myko]

Leo why didn't you tell us they sent you a copy of the script!