Whedonesque Shuts Down As Joss Whedon's Ex-Wife Hits Back

[ZariusTwo]

So Joss Whedon is at the centre of fresh scandle following allegations from his traumatised ex wife of emotional manipulation and multiple affairs he had during their marriage. It's gotten so bad that the long-running Whedonesque website has been shut down.

https://www.newsarama.com/36044-joss...legations.html

[TigerClaw]

I wonder how this is going to affect Warner Bros, since he's working on those reshoots for Justice League, and then do the Batgirl movie.

[plastroncafe]

I really wish people who can't do monogamy would just own up to that. Cripes.

[The Deadman]

Kinda humorous knowing that a lot of the time, these male feminists end up being creepier than the guys they're "protecting" the women from.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Sad.

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[Krutch]

Kai Cole, who was married to Whedon from 1995 to 2016, wrote a guest blog on The Wrap that alleged the director had "multiple" affairs during their relationship and therefore wasn't really a feminist.

I don't understand. Can you not be a feminist and still struggle with monogamy?

[TigerClaw]

Could these claims hurt Joss Whedon in the long run, if they are true?

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by Krutch

I don't understand. Can you not be a feminist and still struggle with monogamy?

Having read the essay, I think the claim Kai is making is that the justifications he made while having the affairs...along with the betrayal of cheating in the first place, call his stated belief that "women are equal" into question.

Which I can see.
People can be liars and cowards and still be feminists.

[ProactiveMan]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

I wonder how this is going to affect Warner Bros, since he's working on those reshoots for Justice League, and then do the Batgirl movie.

I hear that Zack is back.

As far as Whedon’s politics are concerned, I don’t think emotional manipulation is an issue of gender equality. Everyone is capable and guilty of that – we learn how to do it when we’re babies. I have more of a problem with someone being judgemental, and proselytising about morality when they clearly have a lot of work to do on themselves, but I guess if hypocrisy was a crime we’d all be breaking rocks right now.

What is interesting to me is how often people who deal in super heroes turn out to be so morally challenged. They write stories about morality and virtue in its most simplistic and clear form, and at the same time they’re cheating their collaborators out of money, taking credit for other people’s work and treating their family like sh*t. Not to mention all the fascist nut-jobs and pervy sleaze-bags. Maybe that says something about oversimplifying morality.

[Wesley]

I'm not shocked by this, to be honest. I never really thought Joss Whedon was a feminist anyway as evidenced by the way the character of Cordelia Chase was written towards the end of the tv show Angel. I still have no problem being a fan of his work, though.

[***First of Two Latin Kings***]

What's a feminist?

[TMNTFanatic4Life]

I enjoyed both Angel and Buffy but yeah, Joss seems like a real tool bag.

[Andrew NDB]

"WhedonCon" changing to the "Hellmouth Convention."

https://bleedingcool.com/comics/whed...th-convention/

[ranger_scout]

Gal Gadot confirmed that Whedon threatened her career on the set of Justice League.

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/wonde...4618#gs.0yswbw

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by ranger_scout

Gal Gadot confirmed that Whedon threatened her on the set of Justice League.

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/wonde...4618#gs.0yswbw

Threatened her career. Career. Something which bosses do, right or wrong, all the time. Most of the time wrong.

I don't think that anyone is actually supporting Whedon in this; but there are still two camps here. One recognizes that "nobody likes that behavior but it's often a fact of life when dealing with someone in control who relies on that style". The other is the "outrage at anything" camp who operate with a hard line in the sand - either you've sided with Joss or you side with them and ruin his life. It's the the thoughts of the second camp that firmly puts me into the "defense of Joss" camp.

Joss Whedon is a dick, but we aren't dealing with that on it's own merits. Too many people flinging "abuse!", "evil!" "threats!". But a lot of people recognize what's going on but have the perspective that is "quit complaining like a child that someone yelled at you and just do your damn job for your new boss".

I mean let's distill it down to the truth and face it - the real truth is that Joss Whedon was mean to the cast in his attempt to wrest the project from their loyalty to Snyder. Whedon could've gone another leadership route and worked to earn the cast's trust of course, but here we have a generation of trophy-getters who, instead of dealing with it, find relevance in going to war that they are "fighting an abuser". It doesn't mean that Whedon was a good leader or that something should be said, but it certainly doesn't mean inquisitions, investigations and media smear campaigns. Ray Fisher got angry that his part was reduced in the Whedon cut and threw a manipulative fit by making this his life's virtue-battle whereas most reasonable people would've moved on to make their next movie.

It's f'n ridiculous.

[CyberCubed]

Then why does he only target women and minorities?

It gets suspicious that Superman, Flash, etc's actors don't have any complaints about Whedon because he never attacked them.

[Papenbrook]

Oh my. I hope that she's okay now.

It seems that Whedon has screwed over a lot of people.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Papenbrook

Oh my. I hope that she's okay now.

"Rich actress" / "not OK"
Choose one.

I knew Whedon is garbage, though I hoped he is not that bad, but apparently he is a typical male feminist trash creep. Just to think that few years ago he was considered "an icon of male feminism".

[CyberCubed]

Joss Whedon is such a moron. Imagine wanting to make Gal Gadot look bad when he has nothing to do with the Wonder Woman movies, and Justice League originally wasn't his movie either.

Like why would he even care? Other than to be mean spirited to the actress? What a loser.